# My friend's horse was apparently killed by a mountain lion last night, in Missouri.

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**Created:** [July 1, 2014, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147 "2014-07-01T22:58:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/1 "2014-07-01T22:58:27Z")

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I am disturbed by this. We have horses, about 30 miles southeast of him. They found it in the pasture, all ripped up. They assume mountain lion, and I don’t know what else would have done it. Creepy.

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**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/2 "2014-07-02T01:28:11Z")

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Wow. I had a mini who was sick and elderly killed by coyotes (best guess). My sympathies to your friend.

StG

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**Author:** ![Lorene89095](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@Lorene89095](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lorene89095)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/3 "2014-07-02T02:01:23Z")

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Just plain old dogs can do a lot of damage. What makes y’all think Puma?

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**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/4 "2014-07-02T02:28:56Z")

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I just asked him. Apparently there was one 6" wide bite to the throat, the horse was able to get away, and then bled out. They have wildlife conservation people out there now.

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**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/5 "2014-07-02T02:57:30Z")

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The conservation people think a mountain lion is the most likely culprit, but don’t know for sure. There have been confirmed sightings in surrounding counties (to be confirmed, it has to be caught on camera) but none in that county, I think.

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**Author:** ![Whatever4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@Whatever4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whatever4)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/6 "2014-07-02T03:55:51Z")

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Really sorry to read this. I cried myself sick when I lost my horse … and all I did was put him in the new owner’s trailer.

Really, really sorry.

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/7 "2014-07-02T04:52:59Z")

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I’m surprised a mountain lion would take on a full sized horse when there is easier game like rabbits.

What part of Missouri is this?

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**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/8 "2014-07-02T05:01:57Z")

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It was a yearling, so not full-sized. Just East of Kansas City.

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/9 "2014-07-02T06:01:08Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> I’m surprised a mountain lion would take on a full sized horse when there is easier game like rabbits.

If you ever get a chance to get up close and personal with a mountain lion, even a stuffed one, you’ll understand a lot better. Seeing a big cat or a bear in a zoo simply does not convey well how strong they are. I once saw a bear while out hiking. It was a small bear, but physical size doesn’t make that much difference–the overwhelming impression was one of sheer, unstoppable power.

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**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/10 "2014-07-02T06:56:28Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> If you ever get a chance to get up close and personal with a mountain lion, even a stuffed one, you’ll understand a lot better. Seeing a big cat or a bear in a zoo simply does not convey well how strong they are. I once saw a bear while out hiking. It was a small bear, but physical size doesn’t make that much difference–the overwhelming impression was one of sheer, unstoppable power.

This ↑↑↑

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**Author:** ![jayrey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/47e85d/32.png) [@jayrey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayrey)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/11 "2014-07-02T16:56:21Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> If you ever get a chance to get up close and personal with a mountain lion, even a stuffed one, you’ll understand a lot better. Seeing a big cat or a bear in a zoo simply does not convey well how strong they are. I once saw a bear while out hiking. It was a small bear, but physical size doesn’t make that much difference–the overwhelming impression was one of sheer, unstoppable power.

I second (or third?) this. I encountered bears in Alaska two different times. The one I was the closest to was young and small by bear standards and still scared me witless with it’s size and strength. If the larger one had paid any attention to me (thank the forgotten gods that he didn’t), he could have have me for lunch because I would have been frozen and gibbering with fear.

Renee, I am very sorry for your friend’s loss. As a horse owner, this sickens and saddens me.

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**Author:** ![artemis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@artemis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/artemis)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/12 "2014-07-02T19:55:11Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> I’m surprised a mountain lion would take on a full sized horse when there is easier game like rabbits.

The preferred prey of mountain lions is deer, and an adult deer is a sizable animal. They are well adapted to taking down quite large animals. Killing a horse isn’t much of a challenge to a full-grown lion.

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**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/13 "2014-07-02T20:00:22Z")

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ummmm… mountain lions need to eat too don’t they???  
i can understand why you feel bad for your friend  
i can’t understand why strangers are picking a horse over a mountain lion

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/14 "2014-07-02T20:15:49Z")

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The horse is fenced in and incredibly vulnerable.

Wild horse herds have much better chances of survival. A wild herd can more easily see predators and get away. They can fight back and defend themselves.

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**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/15 "2014-07-02T21:17:53Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> The horse is fenced in and incredibly vulnerable.
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> Wild horse herds have much better chances of survival. A wild herd can more easily see predators and get away. They can fight back and defend themselves.

oh, well, that makes sense  
i guess being a city boy i didn’t know that, thanks

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/16 "2014-07-02T22:31:07Z")

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Werewolf?

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**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/17 "2014-07-02T22:41:34Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> The horse is fenced in and incredibly vulnerable.
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> Wild horse herds have much better chances of survival. A wild herd can more easily see predators and get away. They can fight back and defend themselves.

The wild horse herd structure, with watchful, guarding stallions is also different than having a couple of mares and geldings in a fenced field. These horses just aren’t used to having to defend themselves. It’s sort of like expecting pomeranians to behave like wolves.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/18 "2014-07-02T23:06:21Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> Werewolf?

[There. There wolf.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQQtgx4iG8E&t=0m9s)

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friends-horse-was-apparently-killed-by-a-mountain-lion-last-night-in-missouri/692147/19 "2014-07-02T23:44:12Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> Werewolf?

> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [There. There wolf.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQQtgx4iG8E&t=0m9s)

No, [There Wolf. On Tuesdays.](http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID21191/images/Bray_road.jpg)
