# My God, Bisexual Woman....What has become of you? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 3, 2003, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964 "2003-07-03T06:19:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MrSarcasticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@MrSarcasticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrSarcasticus)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/1 "2003-07-03T06:19:23Z")
I was born in 1972. I graduated high school in 1990. My thoughts of the BI WOMAN then were always held in the highest regard. They were sexy, passionate, secretive, incredibly rare. A once in a lifetime phenomenon. The four-leaf clover, white buffalo, and a blue moon rolled into one. So what in the fuck has happened in just 10 years? Here’s what: 18-24 year old bi chicks have exploded like a virus onto the dating scene. They create webpages of themselves kissing other women playfully. They troll in chatrooms looking for threesomes. (How sexually world-weary can you be at age 19 to troll for threesomes?) They wear their BI like a badge of public honor. And yet all this time, I can’t help thinking that this nouveau female bisexuality is nothing more than today’s fashion statement. Tats, piercings, bi. It makes sense, I guess. I blame the MTV and GIRLS GONE WILD. Note to self, Do not give the party girls an opportunity to be as sexually obnoxious as possible. All in all, shame on you, teen BI GIRLS for taking something that used to be so deliciously sacrilegious and devilishly dirty and turning it into a mainstream trend. We’ve really lost something here. Trendy teen BIs, may God damn you to hell. ---
**Author:** ![Major\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Major\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Major_Kong)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/2 "2003-07-03T06:21:07Z")
MrSarcasticus, don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/3 "2003-07-03T07:29:50Z")
And they ALL have tribal-looking tattoos right above their butt cracks. ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/4 "2003-07-03T08:23:22Z")
The hell they do. My daughter’s tattoo is on her right shoulder. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Major\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Major\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Major_Kong)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/5 "2003-07-03T09:21:38Z")
> [@](#): > > The hell they do. My daughter’s tattoo is on her right shoulder. 😛 Do you have her phone number (photos too)? Is she into the “freaky” shit? ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/6 "2003-07-03T09:54:15Z")
**MrSarcasticus** , we’ve discussed the phenomenon before. Many of them are doing it for effect. Do you really think an 18-24 year old girl would make a webpage of herself kissing another woman if it weren’t just for show? How many of these girls do you see forming lasting relationships with other women? It’s just a little game. Oh, and everybody in chatrooms lie. Everyone. Yes, even that girl. She was probably a 54-year-old man named Günther. Hope you can handle that. Yes, it’s a trend. They’re not freaked out at the thought of kissing another woman, so they do it to be cool. Some of them _are_ probably freaked out, but everyone else is doing it. Just ignore them and be happier for it. ---
**Author:** ![zen101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c68b51/32.png) [@zen101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zen101)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/7 "2003-07-03T11:11:25Z")
No doubt it’s just an expansion of the LUG (lesbian until graduation) phenomenon. People, especially young people emulate what they see portrayed as cool and attention getting. The OP says it plain and true, bisexual women were considered the holy grail of sex. That obvious popularity is attractive, the heightened level of attention is certainly an incentive. Hell, look at how people dress. You think half that shit is comfortable? If I could be instantly boost my popularity by proclaiming that I’m bi instead of wearing uncomfortable shoes guess which one I’m going to pick. That having been said the next phase is a series of television shows, magazine articles, and hit songs about how great 19 year old girls are who date 31 year old broke ass men with abs rapidly dwindling. ---
**Author:** ![lucwarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@lucwarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lucwarm)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/8 "2003-07-03T11:33:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\* I blame the MTV and GIRLS GONE WILD.\*\* Don’t forget Howard Stern. \*\* > [@](#): > > Oh, and everybody in chatrooms lie. Everyone. Yes, even that girl. She was probably a 54-year-old man named Günther. Hope you can handle that.\*\* Agree. I chat online now and then and I don’t bother chatting with anyone claiming to be a bi female under the age of 30. At least 95% of the time it’s a man!! ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/9 "2003-07-03T11:35:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lucwarm \* > \*\*Agree. I chat online now and then and I don’t bother chatting with anyone claiming to be a bi female under the age of 30. At least 95% of the time it’s a man!! \*\* And the other 5% of the time it’s a guy. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/10 "2003-07-03T11:38:39Z")
Maybe chick ahve figgered out that guys dig it. Guys do crazy things to get chicks. Maybe chicks do crazy things to get guys. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/11 "2003-07-03T13:30:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SimonX \* > \*\*Maybe chick ahve figgered out that guys dig it. Guys do crazy things to get chicks. Maybe chicks do crazy things to get guys. > > 😉 \*\* Hey, my SO seems to find it hot;). (Of course, I didn’t come to terms with my bisexuality until I was 23, and only had 1 relationship with another woman, and I’m one of those odd ‘monogamous’ bisexuals and won’t bring another girl to our bed, so maybe I’m not the best example;)). Ava ---
**Author:** ![UnwrittenNocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/6de8d8/32.png) [@UnwrittenNocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwrittenNocturne)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/12 "2003-07-03T13:41:46Z")
Hell I am a 34 male, my SO is a 22 yr old bi-woman. Our assorted…friends…tend to be her age, mayhaps slightly younger. **MrSarcasticus** , with all due respect: this is a _good thing_®. ---
**Author:** ![Mearl\_Dox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@Mearl\_Dox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mearl_Dox)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/13 "2003-07-03T14:59:30Z")
If you think you’ve got it bad, I’m a lesbian (with no signs or real hopes of changing) and college age. Just trying to find my way between the ‘real’ bisexual and lesbian women and those who are into it for show is a pain. One of my friends who was a loud and proud (to the point of being obnoxious) lesbian just started dating another friend of ours who is male. And trying to explain the difference between “not horrified by the thought of kissing women” and “honestly attracted to women” is too much trouble. I just smile and nod as 90% of my female friends declare their bisexuality. The only part that bothers me is when someone uses “Well I’m bisexual” as an excuse between homophobic or borderline homophobic statements. Usually towards “real” lesbians who clearly should be quiet about all this gay rights stuff, or “real” gay men who should stop flaunting it. Gaaaah. :rolleyes: Not that all bisexuals this age are like that. My current girlfriend is not, for instance. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![presidebt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c37758/32.png) [@presidebt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/presidebt)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/14 "2003-07-03T15:02:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MrSarcasticus \* > \*\* > They were sexy, passionate, secretive, incredibly rare. A once in a lifetime phenomenon. The four-leaf clover, white buffalo, and a blue moon rolled into one. > > \*\* Wow. So they were once rare and valuable, and now they’re common and worthless. Kinda like the stuff in the market? What kind of sick sentiment is _that?_ Maybe I’m reading you wrong… As for this _phenomenon_ you’re a little late in your rant. At least 100 years too late. Here’s some information to put all this in context: Books: [Dangerous Intimacies: Toward a Sapphic History of the British Novel](http://www.usc.edu/dept/LAS/english/19c/books/book-0-8223-2036-3.html) [The Secret Lives of Girls: What Good Girls Really Do–Sex Play, Aggression, and Their Guilt](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0743201078/002-1922600-7874401?vi=glance) Links: [Anthropological Aspects Regarding Lesbianism](http://www.umm.maine.edu/resources/beharchive/beh450/CindyBartleson/cbanthro.html) > [@](#): > > **Homosexuality has existed since the beginning of time, but it was never a major issue until the end of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century when “experts” began to explore the subject. In fact, during the 19th century, although there was some ambivalence, young women were advised not to give up their female friends, but to keep activities such as “kissing and caressing” away from the eyes of men. Not because these activities were threatening, but because they were provocative and intriguing to men.** [History of the Bisexual Movement](http://bitheway.org/Bi/History.htm) > [@](#): > > \*\* The contemporary bisexual movement began in the early 1970s, although earlier communities of bisexuals did exist, such as the Bloomsbury community of artists & writers at the turn of the century.\*\* Finally, just last week I read in Promiscuities : The Secret Struggle for Womanhood by Naomi Wolf that she and her friends practice kissing while putting a plastic bag between their lips and tongues. As far as I can tell in my studies of Women’s History (which I am pretty well versed in) female bisexual experimentation cycles in popularity, though it is always present. ---
**Author:** ![Anaximenes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e99b99/32.png) [@Anaximenes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaximenes)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/15 "2003-07-03T16:41:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by UnwrittenNocturne \* > \*\*Hell I am a 34 male, my SO is a 22 yr old bi-woman. Our assorted…friends…tend to be her age, mayhaps slightly younger. > \*\* Dear \*\* UnwrittenNocturne, \*\* You are cordially invited to gorge yourself on my feces. A bountiful platter of my succulent excrement is reserved in your name. Dinning arrangements will be made at your personal convenience. RSVP by calling 1-888-EAT-SHIT. (1-888-328-7448) Mostly enviously yours, Anaximenes. ---
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/16 "2003-07-03T17:27:36Z")
Personally, I blame T.A.T.U. Well, not really, but it seems the trendy thing to say these days. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/17 "2003-07-03T19:40:41Z")
Many of us have gone underground, choosing to hide ourselves as “lesbian-identified bisexuals” in order to avoid the objectifying of ourselves and our sexual identity as has happened in this thread. Others’ MMV, of couse. ---
**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2003, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/18 "2003-07-04T00:31:14Z")
So how come I spent 7 years being a bisexual girl, and STILL no guys were interested (Now I’ve given up and I’m just a plain old lez)? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2003, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/19 "2003-07-04T00:47:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kung fu lola \* > \*\*So how come I spent 7 years being a bisexual girl, and STILL no guys were interested (Now I’ve given up and I’m just a plain old lez)? \*\* \ Day late and a dollar short again. ---
**Author:** ![AngelicGemma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@AngelicGemma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelicGemma)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2003, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964/20 "2003-07-04T12:49:34Z")
People are more open about it these days. Thats why there seems to be more of us about. Oh and **MrSarcasticus** I take offence that you’re suggesting its a fashion statement. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-bisexual-woman-what-has-become-of-you/185964.md?page=2)