# My God, I HATED "Glass Onion". \[spoilers ahoy\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** netflix, movies\ **Created:** [January 10, 2023, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-i-hated-glass-onion-spoilers-ahoy/977948 "2023-01-10T01:32:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![brossa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brossa/32/3040_2.png) [@brossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brossa)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-i-hated-glass-onion-spoilers-ahoy/977948/41 "2023-01-11T04:02:17Z")
> [@Mr.E](#): > > Obviously the point of the movie is this form of hydrogen is in fact not any safer, but Miles Bron is pushing it anyway because he is an idiot who thinks he’s immune from consequences. Yeah, they did point out in the film that the hydrogen would leak out of ordinary domestic pipes (‘because it’s so small’ or some such) and lead to explosions. My impression was that Klear was an exotic new metal-organic framework or metal hydride that would store lots of hydrogen at ambient temperature and pressure, so that high-pressure tanks or cryogenic storage wouldn’t be needed. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-i-hated-glass-onion-spoilers-ahoy/977948/42 "2023-01-11T04:14:54Z")
I am happy to be added to the dislike group. Overblown and unforgivably boring. Didn’t work for me as a mystery, a heist, an homage or a parody. If you are going to have a bunch of characters on as island and then have a murder, at least have interesting players. The ending went on so long I wanted to add my TV to all the smashing. ---
**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-i-hated-glass-onion-spoilers-ahoy/977948/43 "2023-01-11T04:22:00Z")
For those that didn’t like the movie, did you like the twist when Benoit solves the fake mystery before it starts? That got a huge laugh in our cave; we have to pause the movie so as not to miss the dialog. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-i-hated-glass-onion-spoilers-ahoy/977948/44 "2023-01-11T04:22:43Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > If you say so, but if they were going for some kind of Galaxy Quest of mystery movies, it’s a swing and a miss IMHO. Yes. “Snoop!” says the detective to his client. Come on, that’s not a murder mystery, it’s a spoof. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-i-hated-glass-onion-spoilers-ahoy/977948/45 "2023-01-11T04:30:37Z")
> [@CaveMike](#): > > For those that didn’t like the movie, did you like the twist when Benoit solves the fake mystery before it starts? That got a huge laugh in our cave; we have to pause the movie so as not to miss the dialog. The solving of the fake mystery was somewhat amusing to me, but also came across to me as trying too hard to be clever. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-i-hated-glass-onion-spoilers-ahoy/977948/46 "2023-01-11T10:15:11Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Mystery stories that play with the “it’s never the most likely suspect” trope are definitely not unheard of in past tales. And sometimes it really is lupus. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-i-hated-glass-onion-spoilers-ahoy/977948/47 "2023-01-11T10:23:06Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Mystery stories that play with the “it’s never the most likely suspect” trope are definitely not unheard of in past tales. There’s definitely one Agatha Christie where someone is discovered standing over the body of someone they’re known to hate, with the murder weapon in their hand and it turns out after a labyrinthine quest for clues and explanations that…they did it, they killed him, right there and then in exactly the way it appeared, if we’d let the dumb hick cop arrest them at the beginning we’d have saved ourselves valuable tea and crumpets time. Christie had of course earned the right to play around, and at a certain point pretty much had to for the sake of her own sanity. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-i-hated-glass-onion-spoilers-ahoy/977948/48 "2023-01-11T12:37:15Z")
> [@Stanislaus](#): > > There’s definitely one Agatha Christie where someone is discovered standing over the body of someone they’re known to hate, with the murder weapon in their hand and it turns out after a labyrinthine quest for clues and explanations that…they did it, they killed him, right there and then in exactly the way it appeared, if we’d let the dumb hick cop arrest them at the beginning we’d have saved ourselves valuable tea and crumpets time. If we’re thinking of the same Christie novel, the idea was that, no, she _didn’t_ kill him in exactly the way it appeared; the gun in her hand _wouldn’t_ match the bullet in the body, because it didn’t in fact fire it, because the whole point was to make it look like someone was making it look like she was guilty. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-i-hated-glass-onion-spoilers-ahoy/977948/49 "2023-01-11T13:24:05Z")
I wouldn’t say I HATED it, such a strong reaction? I was disappointed in it. I really enjoyed the original Knives Out, and most all of the characters (LeKeith Stanfield, why was he there? Fantastic actor, they really didn’t know what to do with him in this.) This one? Hmm, the original Benoit Blanc was always large and in charge, and 5 steps ahead of everyone. In this, he always seemed kinda lost. And at the end he’s basically, “Uh, I dunno, can’t help you there.” Really? And the climax of “I’m gonna smash all of your crystal sculptures!” Really? Why not just pull out an uzi and mow everyone down, that would have made just as much sense. And the big explosion was straight out of every James Bond knock-off ever made. Frankly, the evil billionaire and remote island lair was too. And on and on and on. As for “upending tropes”, that didn’t really find purchase with me either. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-i-hated-glass-onion-spoilers-ahoy/977948/50 "2023-01-11T13:31:13Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > If we’re thinking of the same Christie novel, We are, and you’re right. (Full confession, I’m thinking of the dramatisation for TV, but the point you raise was faithfully carried over). ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-i-hated-glass-onion-spoilers-ahoy/977948/51 "2023-01-11T13:43:00Z")
As I watched, I assumed this was a standard puzzle-box mystery. I was watching for clues, forming theories, etc. So it was a bit of a letdown when it became apparent that the writers didn’t see it that way. But rather than get upset about the fact that the writers didn’t make the exact show I expected, I chose to appreciate it for what it is. A silly dramedy-suspense show with elements of mystery. Seen in that light, I found it great fun. For the folks complaining about hydrogen crystals… did you also complain in Pulp Fiction that there’s no way gangsters would be fighting over a briefcase that emitted gold light? It’s just a McGuffin, a plot-generating object. It’s not supposed to do anything except create reasons for others to do interesting things. ---
**Author:** ![TRC4941](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trc4941/32/6792_2.png) [@TRC4941](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TRC4941)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-i-hated-glass-onion-spoilers-ahoy/977948/52 "2023-01-11T14:43:06Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > > [@TRC4941](#): > > > > I’ve tried twice to watch it and never got through the first episode. > > It’s a movie, not a TV show. It doesn’t have episodes. Yep - you’re correct. I’m not sure why I said “episodes”. I tried watching it twice and didn’t get past the first 20 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![TRC4941](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trc4941/32/6792_2.png) [@TRC4941](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TRC4941)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-i-hated-glass-onion-spoilers-ahoy/977948/53 "2023-01-11T14:44:15Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > > [@ZipperJJ](#): > > > > > [@TRC4941](#): > > > > > > I’m glad to hear there are people who didn’t like it. I’ve tried twice to watch it and never got through the first episode. I felt like I had to keep trying since so many people loved it. So now I’m out! > > > > Are you perhaps thinking of _White Lotus_? > > I thought maybe TRC4941 was referring to the original Knives Out as the first instalment of this “franchise”, but your guess is as good as mine. Nope - just misspoke. ---
**Author:** ![BrianDime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@BrianDime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrianDime)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-i-hated-glass-onion-spoilers-ahoy/977948/54 "2023-01-11T16:07:05Z")
I remarked to my family that I was really impressed with Bautista’s performance. I’d really only seen him in Marvel or action roles previously, and had (wrongly) assumed that he was in that “mostly there for his appearance as a tough guy” category. I was wrong, and he appears to really be a good actor. As for the rest of the issues with the movie, I had many of the same concerns voiced here. It’s not a “fair” mystery, for the most part. After thinking about it some, and watching a few folks on YT talk about different aspects of the film, I decided I DID like it, but needed to approach it as not a “mystery” movie, in the sense of a traditional Great Detective, drawing room-type movie. I liked the characters, it had a bunch of fun stuff, it just wasn’t the grand mystery I was expecting going in, and that colored my response, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Heracles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heracles/32/487_2.png) [@Heracles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heracles)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-i-hated-glass-onion-spoilers-ahoy/977948/55 "2023-01-11T20:22:11Z")
I’ll just mention that [this other thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glass-onion-a-knives-out-mystery-was-in-theaters-nov-23-29-now-on-netflix-dec-23-2022/975388) about the movie is older but still very much active, at 406 posts by now. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-i-hated-glass-onion-spoilers-ahoy/977948/56 "2023-01-12T02:00:09Z")
> [@CaveMike](#): > > For those that didn’t like the movie, did you like the twist when Benoit solves the fake mystery before it starts? No, because that was an entirely predictable moment. It happens every time a hyper-observant detective on a TV show or movie is put in a fake murder mystery situation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-i-hated-glass-onion-spoilers-ahoy/977948.md?page=2)