# My God, Obama just ordered Chicago-style deep dish pizza - from St. Louis?! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 10, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657 "2009-04-10T16:11:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/21 "2009-04-10T20:27:35Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Thin crust is better, anyway. You can have it. ::shudder ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/22 "2009-04-10T20:33:41Z")
First Blagojevich, then that whole Roland Burris fiasco, and now this! It doesn’t quite make me wish I had voted for McCain, but Obama better not order an Italian beef from Milwaukee, or I’ll know this administration is a failure! ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/23 "2009-04-10T20:38:36Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > It doesn’t quite make me wish I had voted for McCain, but Obama better not order an Italian beef from Milwaukee, or I’ll know this administration is a failure! Well see, that’s just **wrong**. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/24 "2009-04-10T20:46:49Z")
If he ordered toasted ravioli from Chicago, then we’d have a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/25 "2009-04-10T20:53:49Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > Nah, the link makes clear that they are flying to Washington with dough, cheese and pizza pans and are going to be making the pizzas there. I so want to see videotape of them trying to get through airport security with raw pizza dough. I know. I was going for a joke, like the futility of having the hots for Wilma Flintstone.She’ll never leave Fred, and you know it. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/26 "2009-04-10T20:54:00Z")
> [@Morbo](#): > > If he ordered toasted ravioli from Chicago, then we’d have a problem. You think he likes gooey butter cake? He ate a lot of pie on the campaign trail. I think he needs some GBC. ---
**Author:** ![GameHat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ed655f/32.png) [@GameHat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GameHat)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/27 "2009-04-10T23:46:22Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > First Blagojevich, then that whole Roland Burris fiasco, and now this! > > It doesn’t quite make me wish I had voted for McCain, but Obama better not order an Italian beef from Milwaukee, or I’ll know this administration is a failure! If Obama orders Italian Beef from Milwaukee I’ll tear my “Obama 2008” bumper sticker off my car and demand my campaign contributions be refunded. /deadly serious //A Wisconite living in Illinois. Illinois fucks up a lot of things - government, parks and natural resources, driving. But it does at least two things (at least around Chicago) better than anywhere else on earth: Italian Beef and Pizza. ///look, I love Obama. But ordering pizza from St. Louis is like what it would have been like if Dubya (whom I hate) had been asked what his favorite baseball team was, and he said “Toronto”. ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/28 "2009-04-11T00:06:50Z")
> [@tr0psn4j](#): > > Speaking as a Californian, our BBQ sucks. ☹ So does our pizza ☹ But our Mexican food is fucking awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/29 "2009-04-11T00:59:37Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > Nah, the link makes clear that they are flying to Washington with dough, cheese and pizza pans and are going to be making the pizzas there. I so want to see videotape of them trying to get through airport security with raw pizza dough. My mother once carried swordfish caught less then two hours before onto a flight to Tulsa packed in dry ice. So she managed to get on board a plane post-9/11 carrying a smoking cooler full of biological material. I really wish I had been there to see that one. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/30 "2009-04-11T01:19:26Z")
> [@Just\_Some\_Guy](#): > > My mother once carried swordfish caught less then two hours before onto a flight to Tulsa packed in dry ice. So she managed to get on board a plane post-9/11 carrying a smoking cooler full of biological material. > > I really wish I had been there to see that one. Three weeks after 9/11, I had a small cooler of shrimp I brought back from Key West International Airport, through Pittsburgh, to Buffalo. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/31 "2009-04-11T01:49:28Z")
> [@GameHat](#): > > [Has he gone mad?](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-talk-pizza-10-apr10,0,2617102.story) > > He’s a freaking Chicagoan! > > _THIS_ is the sort of thing that all my conservative friends should have been forwarding me. I didn’t give a damn about those stupid american flag lapel pins, but ordering pizza from St. Louis? That is a slap in the face. > > :rolleyes: Impeachify him! Impeachify him!!! And their voices prevailed… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/32 "2009-04-11T04:00:08Z")
> [@bup](#): > > So order some barbecue or something! Not deep-dish pizza! Does St. Louis even have good barbecue? Kansas City does, but that’s way on the other side of the state. If anybody has suggestions, I’m going to be there again in a week, but I can’t find anyone suggesting good cue in St. Louis. And while deep dish is sort-of “tourist food” in Chicago, in that that’s what all the tourists get when they come here, people here do certainly eat their fair share of it, although pub-style thin crust is probably the far-and-away more common style for a Chicagoan to eat. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/33 "2009-04-11T04:06:37Z")
“Pub-style?” Since when have we had pubs? We have bars. Some bars have good pizza. Others don’t, but we leave them when we get hungry, unless we’re too drunk to walk and then frozen Home Run Inn tastes fine. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/34 "2009-04-11T04:17:54Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > “Pub-style?” Since when have we had pubs? > > We have bars. Some bars have good pizza. Others don’t, but we leave them when we get hungry, unless we’re too drunk to walk and then frozen Home Run Inn tastes fine. Ack. I mean “tavern-style” or “bar-style,” of course. I blame it on the British influences in my life. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/35 "2009-04-11T05:05:09Z")
> [@Morbo](#): > > If he ordered toasted ravioli from Chicago, then we’d have a problem. Well, _he_ would have a problem, inasmuch as he just would’ve wasted time eating that stuff. Astonishing how toasted rav manages to be so bleah. > [@pulykamell](#): > > Does St. Louis even have good barbecue? Kansas City does, but that’s way on the other side of the state. If anybody has suggestions, I’m going to be there again in a week, but I can’t find anyone suggesting good cue in St. Louis. There’s good BBQ in St. Louis, but it’s not so much a style – there’s styles of BBQ from all regions available, none really remarkable – but it’s more the _cut_ of meat. Specifically, St. Louis style ribs, and pork steaks. See [here](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis-style_barbecue). I can’t really think of any place I’d say is fantastic. Charlotte’s Ribs always used to be pretty good. And anything at Anne Gunn’s is fantastic. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/36 "2009-04-11T06:16:27Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > There’s good BBQ in St. Louis, but it’s not so much a style – there’s styles of BBQ from all regions available, none really remarkable – but it’s more the _cut_ of meat. Specifically, St. Louis style ribs, and pork steaks. See [here](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis-style_barbecue). Interesting. I’m familiar with the St. Louis cut of ribs, as when I barbecue it’s usually the St. Louis cut or the full spare I do. Even if I do a full spare, I generally butcher it down to the St. Louis cut & the tips and smoke them as two pieces of meat. The pork steaks are a new one for me, though. > [@](#): > > I can’t really think of any place I’d say is fantastic. Charlotte’s Ribs always used to be pretty good. And anything at Anne Gunn’s is fantastic. I’ll try to check out Anne Gunn’s. I’m looking at their website, and if I’m at the right place, it looks a little more upscale than a typical barbecue joint, but it looks serious. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/37 "2009-04-11T06:33:00Z")
> [@iamthewalrus\_3](#): > > So does our pizza ☹ Speaking as a former Chicagoan, you’re right on the money. California is the vastest, windswept steppe of exceptionally poor pizza I’ve ever had the displeasure to visit, and I’m not visiting, I goddamn live there. I had no, just no idea how good I had it in the northwest suburbs of Chicago, until I left. I had no fucking clue that every single Chicago area strip-mall pizza take-out place, every one, no matter how humble or obscure, served far better pizza then every single restaurant or takeout in the entire state of California. And no, I’m not kidding. California is where Pizza goes to die, and a right horrible death it is. But, yeah… there’s some OK Mexican here. Damn near no Greeks, though, and I also miss that. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/38 "2009-04-11T06:45:50Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I’ll try to check out Anne Gunn’s. I’m looking at their website, and if I’m at the right place, it looks a little more upscale than a typical barbecue joint, but it looks serious. Oh, yeah, very upscale. Reservations probably necessary. But all their meatstuff kicks ass. [Annie Gunn’s](http://www.smokehousemarket.com/). The Smokehouse is a tiny little upscale market attached to the restaurant, mostly specializing in aged beef (also the restaurant’s specialty). … although I see only one one BBQ item on the menu now, and that’s spare ribs. thought there used to be other items. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/39 "2009-04-11T07:37:27Z")
Haircut on the runway is next? Man’s hair is pretty close to the skull already! Sorry, couldn’t come up with anything funnier! ☹ Q ---
**Author:** ![Taenia\_spp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5e925/32.png) [@Taenia\_spp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taenia_spp)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657/40 "2009-04-11T16:32:17Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Speaking as a former Chicagoan, you’re right on the money. California is the vastest, windswept steppe of exceptionally poor pizza I’ve ever had the displeasure to visit, and I’m not visiting, I goddamn live there. Having lived in California all my life, I’d say some of the pizza places I’ve been to have been quite delicious. If Chicago is as good as you say, well hot damn, I’m buying a one-way plane ticket to pizza nirvana. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-god-obama-just-ordered-chicago-style-deep-dish-pizza-from-st-louis/492657.md?page=3)