# My goddamn fucking meth addict nephew

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 13, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640 "2016-12-13T22:37:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![koufax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@koufax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koufax)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/1 "2016-12-13T22:37:19Z")

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This 38 year old child/man is just a whiny fucking punk ass bitch who can stay sober for 11 months and then just disappears back into his meth fueled masturbatory sex dream world, then comes crawling back to mommy and daddy for help.

Well, mommy and daddy lost their other son, his brother, 3 years ago to bone cancer. They went thru that hell, now they have to put up with this piece of totally selfish shit

It is not like we ALL haven’t tried to help him. I went to AA over 40 years ago and I don’t touch alcohol although there have been many times I would have liked to. My sister has been sober 45 years and last year they shipped him off to Minneapolis to live with her. She took him to meetings, hooked him up with many sober addicts and alcoholics and got him a job with a sober friend of hers. Now she wants nothing to do with him after he went back to his life of meth and sex.

He does great for a while, then I guess he needs some excitement so he goes back to his old ways. And then he always comes crawling back to mommy and daddy. They kick him out and he comes crawling back.

There is no excuse for him and people like him. He is not mentally ill, is intelligent, has a good sense of humor and has all the help in the world to stay off that shit. But he makes the decision to use again.

It would be better if he would OD so my brother and sister in law could find some peace in their remaining years. Or if he would just go the fuck away.

My ex wife, who I met in AA used to shoot heroin and speed and she stayed off it for 35 years before her death 10 years ago, so I know it can be done.

Fuck him and all the other selfish asshole addicts who drag us all down with them

OK, I’m done, I needed to vent

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/2 "2016-12-13T23:11:27Z")

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Always willing to listen to a vent like that - lord knows, you need it.

That said - your nephew clearly loves meth more than he loves anything else and until that changes he isn’t going to get sober and \*stay \*sober. Addiction is a motherfucker. It’s frustrating when someone can get clean for a year then goes back to it, but that’s reality for a lot of addicts.

Don’t really have a good answer for parents/relatives/friends who let the addict exploit them for years. If I did, I’d share it.

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**Author:** ![koufax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@koufax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koufax)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/3 "2016-12-13T23:28:58Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Always willing to listen to a vent like that - lord knows, you need it.
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> That said - your nephew clearly loves meth more than he loves anything else and until that changes he isn’t going to get sober and \*stay \*sober. Addiction is a motherfucker. It’s frustrating when someone can get clean for a year then goes back to it, but that’s reality for a lot of addicts.
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> Don’t really have a good answer for parents/relatives/friends who let the addict exploit them for years. If I did, I’d share it.

If I didn’t personally know that it could be done, and if there weren’t millions of people worldwide who have decided to get off and stay off that shit, I would have more sympathy for him. He got caught breaking into a car recently, the owner and a friend beat his ass, and THEN called the cops. His court date is soon so hopefully they give him 10 years.

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**Author:** ![stolatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@stolatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolatt)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/4 "2016-12-13T23:47:52Z")

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At one point, after a strong armed attack upon a family member for money, no end of wrecked cars, theft and more theft, my mind went to some pretty dark places. Like how much money would I have to give this guy to overdose. Thankfully, he is in jail and it’s been a lot more peaceful for everyone. It’s a nightmare I wouldn’t wish on anyone.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/5 "2016-12-14T05:00:43Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> Now she wants nothing to do with him after he went back to his life of meth and sex.

Sex, in and of itself, isn’t all that bad, so is this referring to the previously mentioned masturbatory sex dream world (which doesn’t really sound like something I’d put under the ‘sex’ umbrella, _per se_), or is this referring to meth being his only conduit to pursuing any means of interaction, at all, with others (ie - frequenting prostitutes)?

Too bad your sister’s efforts failed - nothing worse than investing all that self_less_ effort on someone self_ish_. I’m guessing any attempted man to mans with him went nowhere.

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/6 "2016-12-14T05:37:04Z")

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My sister’s oldest is the same way. They came home one day to find anything of value of theirs and the other kids gone. Oldest blamed it on the neighbors. Turned out it was him. Last I heard he was in jail for related crimes. No ones talks of him now.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/7 "2016-12-14T09:44:40Z")

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My older sister was that way. I won’t go through the whole story, because it just makes me angrier than hell. It’s better for me to be past that at this point.

I believe that she stays away from that stuff now, but you can never be sure. She’s at least to the point where I’d consider helping her when she’s in bad situations. In the past that was not the case, and I understand why you’d rather be done with your version of her.

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**Author:** ![koufax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@koufax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koufax)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/8 "2016-12-14T15:24:14Z")

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> [@Eddie The Horrible](#):
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> Sex, in and of itself, isn’t all that bad, so is this referring to the previously mentioned masturbatory sex dream world (which doesn’t really sound like something I’d put under the ‘sex’ umbrella, _per se_), or is this referring to meth being his only conduit to pursuing any means of interaction, at all, with others (ie - frequenting prostitutes)?
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> Too bad your sister’s efforts failed - nothing worse than investing all that self_less_ effort on someone self_ish_. I’m guessing any attempted man to mans with him went nowhere.

My brother tells me he (and apparently all meth addicts) are into some weird sexual behavior and VERY intense masturbation, (I won’t go into details)

And yes, I and many others have many “man to man” talks with him. Nothing works.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/9 "2016-12-14T15:56:28Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> And yes, I and many others have many “man to man” talks with him. Nothing works.

I know it’s frustrating and heartbreaking. But until he hits bottom the help won’t stick.

You have to do what you need to do to keep you and YOUR family safe and sane and healthy. No more safety nets.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/10 "2016-12-14T19:12:56Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> I know it’s frustrating and heartbreaking. But until he hits bottom the help won’t stick.

And what’s kind of weird about it is, just about every [DEL]addict’s[/DEL] person’s bottom is different. With meth, I simply had to know that I liked sleep far more than what it gave me, and I never had another moment’s interest in it after that. With cigarettes? Who knows.

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**Author:** ![Whiskey\_Dickens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc348/32.png) [@Whiskey\_Dickens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whiskey_Dickens)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/11 "2016-12-14T19:49:26Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> It is not like we ALL haven’t tried to help him.

> [@koufax](#):
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> It would be better if he would OD so my brother and sister in law could find some peace in their remaining years. Or if he would just go the fuck away.

Easy there, Dr. Phil. Don’t want to coddle the guy.

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**Author:** ![jbolty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7c8e57/32.png) [@jbolty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jbolty)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/12 "2016-12-14T20:16:57Z")

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I blame the girlfriends. There are a lot of problems in this world that could be fixed if women would stop having sex with these losers. No real job, no sexy time.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/13 "2016-12-14T20:26:26Z")

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$10 says the girlfriends are drug addicts too.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/14 "2016-12-14T21:09:12Z")

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I think the girlfriends cost more that these days.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/15 "2016-12-14T21:28:50Z")

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You have to ask for the meth discount.

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**Author:** ![koufax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@koufax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koufax)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/16 "2016-12-15T04:12:50Z")

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> [@Whiskey\_Dickens](#):
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> Easy there, Dr. Phil. Don’t want to coddle the guy.

I’m not sure what that means

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**Author:** ![Whiskey\_Dickens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc348/32.png) [@Whiskey\_Dickens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whiskey_Dickens)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/17 "2016-12-15T14:01:55Z")

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> [@koufax](#):
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> I’m not sure what that means

Saying you helped him, and in the same breath wishing death on him makes me think you didn’t exactly bend over backwards to save a family member. Easier to wish them dead than actually help.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/18 "2016-12-15T14:13:04Z")

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Not understanding that someone can help another person time and again and again and again and eventually get completely fed up makes me wonder if you’ve never met a leech.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/19 "2016-12-15T14:18:23Z")

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> [@Whiskey\_Dickens](#):
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> Saying you helped him, and in the same breath wishing death on him makes me think you didn’t exactly bend over backwards to save a family member. Easier to wish them dead than actually help.

Somebody’s obviously not dealt with addicts very often . . .

Wanting them to either get better or fuck off and die is pretty normal.

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**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-goddamn-fucking-meth-addict-nephew/774640/20 "2016-12-15T19:52:42Z")

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> [@Whiskey\_Dickens](#):
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> Saying you helped him, and in the same breath wishing death on him makes me think you didn’t exactly bend over backwards to save a family member. Easier to wish them dead than actually help.

I spend several months on the street while addicted to heroin. I was on the street because my family wouldn’t bend over backwards to save me. You know what? They were 100% absolutely fucking right. I would have abused their trust and stolen to feed my habit.

**You can’t help an addict who doesn’t want to get clean.** Having seen the heartache that comes with people trying (and failing) to help someone they care about, I can’t begrudge anyone who simply wants it to be over.

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