# My humble suggestion at fixing the misogyny stuff. **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 27, 2018, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017 "2018-09-27T13:29:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/61 "2018-09-28T06:47:24Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > That having been said, if, as **susan** says, it affects everyone, then the suggestion that the discussion be limited to a minority of members, like women, or women + “decent guys”, seems counter-productive. I agree with Brother Shodan. This committee of what “misogynists should be allowed to be misogynistic about” clearly needs to include the misogynists. Or else it’s sexist. And the menfolk are certainly against that. Especially the misogynists. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/62 "2018-09-28T06:48:30Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Wait, are you seriously putting the onus on women here? > > I have a a humble suggestion for fixing the misogyny - ban the misogynists. Done and dusted. +100 ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/63 "2018-09-28T06:51:00Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > His post implies nothing of the sort. Good try at trying to derail the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/64 "2018-09-28T06:54:21Z")
[quote=“octopus, post:29, topic:822017”] If you are going to have a panel of women, which is sexist to begin with, you do have to define what counts as a woman and[/qoute] Yes, women, having a say over what actually affects them personally, is sexist. Unless they have a man there to tell them how they should feel, it’s sexist. Good job at derailing the thread. > [@](#): > > how to prove it over the internet. Yes, how does one prove that they are not who they pretend to be? Maybe you could enlightened us? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/65 "2018-09-28T06:55:50Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Hermitian raised a valid and on topic point and was immediately met with an accusation disguised as a question. What’s the point of that tactic? To prove the dishonesty of the question. Something you seem to know a lot about. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/66 "2018-09-28T07:04:59Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > So women have some intrinsic difference of thought? When it comes to misogyny, yes. You have been told this 1000 times. Yet you willfully and gleefully ignore it. So you can act all "outraged at this: [quote’How about a panel of men for comments that are misandrist?[/quote] The only “misandry” that’s going on is against the misogynists. Why are you fighting so hard for the misogynists? I can think of 2 reasons. You enjoy it and the other reason. > [@](#): > > I’m not sure if people really think about the implications of what they write if their principles were truly general instead of narrowly written and constrained to achieve a desired outcome. It really seems like your implications are narrowly written and constrained to achieve the outcome you want, which is misogyny all day every day, or at least the chaos you are creating. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/67 "2018-09-28T07:06:22Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Can’t really argue against a tautology. 🙂 You’re doing a good job of exactly that. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/68 "2018-09-28T07:12:27Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > Because really, I feel so out of options. I’d like to stick around, but when there are posters like this in every fucking thread anywhere near the subject, why bother? I am very much on the cusp of leaving. You know what? I am at the point that I so don’t give a fuck about this place because they cuddle this kind of sexism that I want to fight against these misogynists until I get banned and then I will laugh that they chose to keep around misogynists instead of someone who was trying to make this place a better place, like they “claimed” they wanted. This is why The Dope is dying and will die. “Freedom of Speech” is more important than the actual people. The trolls know this about the Dope and will exploit it until it dies. Gleefully laughing all the way. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/69 "2018-09-28T07:18:00Z")
[quote=“octopus, post:51, topic:822017”] Wait? I’m a misogynist, hateful, and a jerk because I’m discussing the implications of an all women panel in a thread where that was the suggestion in the OP? [quote] No. It’s because you are saying that women discussing things that only affect women is sexist because men aren’t allowed to tell the women how they really should be feeling. Again, great job at trying to derail the thread. > [@](#): > > Ignoring the fact that we aren’t in the Pit, do you have any argument as to why your insults are actually true? Saying that you calling people sexist is wrong is not an insult. > [@](#): > > Now watch this post be labeled as further “proof” of these insults. It’s a sad, sad, sad catch-22. But it’s actually a tactic far more common then it should be. Wow! It’s almost as if you knew what you were doing all along and knew the kind of reaction you would get from it and were actually hoping for it gleefully. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/70 "2018-09-28T07:19:32Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Discussing the topic is not derailing. Except for the fact that you are not actually discussing the topic of the thread. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/71 "2018-09-28T07:24:54Z")
I am extremely disappointed in you, Drunky. You should have left it at 8 posts in a row. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/72 "2018-09-28T07:28:00Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > And you still cannot address the actual on topic posts I make with anything other than insults. Can you? > [@](#): > > Try engaging with ideas instead of insulting other posters. Can you? > [@](#): > > That is if that’s the goal. Is that yours? Because it sure doesn’t seem to be. > [@](#): > > If the goal is to enforce conformity of thought Like the conformity of thought that less misogyny on this board is a good thing? Oh, what a terrible thing that would be. Huh, Octo? Since you seem to be fighting so hard against that, > [@](#): > > with threats of flouncing and depriving the SD of a few cents of advertising money, well, keep on keeping on and good luck. Yes, I agree. The SD should except all and every form of misogyny and hatred of women to make a few extra cents. Don’t you agree, **TUBADIVA** that this board should be super misogynistic and hatred towards women just to make a couple of dollars? Because money is more important than people, right? ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/73 "2018-09-28T07:38:37Z")
**Moderator Note** **Drunky Smurf** , please take a break from the board for a bit. Come back tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/74 "2018-09-28T07:43:57Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > I am extremely disappointed in you, Drunky. You should have left it at 8 posts in a row. ☹ Says the guy that snarks on the G boards about the Durp and then comes and whines on the Durp about the G boards snarking on the Durp. You contradict yourself. At least have some kind of internal consistency. So is any mod ever going to weigh in that the mods are at least thinking about this issue or are we all just to assume you value money over people? It honestly wouldn’t kill anyone to say, 'Hey, we are talking about this, give us a few days, to figure it out." But instead you peeps say nothing. And let the misogynists continue on in their twisted trolling nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/75 "2018-09-28T07:45:03Z")
> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > **Moderator Note** > > **Drunky Smurf** , please take a break from the board for a bit. Come back tomorrow. Will do, Sir. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/76 "2018-09-28T09:52:54Z")
The thing is, I don’t think that letting the sexist trolls run this board is in its long term financial interest. Pretty soon, the only people left here will be about a dozen posters making rape jokes to each other. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/77 "2018-09-28T12:12:29Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > The thing is, I don’t think that letting the sexist trolls run this board is in its long term financial interest. Pretty soon, the only people left here will be about a dozen posters making rape jokes to each other. Apparently the mods don’t see it that way. I’m giving it a few more days, then I am permanently leaving. I don’t need this. ---
**Author:** ![blob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blob/32/489_2.png) [@blob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blob)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/78 "2018-09-28T13:28:53Z")
What’s to consider? Would the same sort of behaviour be acceptable if it were directed at black americans, or jewish people, or the handicapped, or… I would never DREAM of telling any of those groups what they “really think” because I am not a member (except perhaps the last). In any case, people are individuals and have their own individual opinions, they aren’t all lumped together with hive mind. I would never DREAM of telling them that they’ve been brainwashed into having opinions based on their own experiences or that they were better off before they started getting all uppity and asserting their rights, or that they were perfectly happy when they were oppressed because we heard nothing to the contrary from them… Why are women different, here? Or am I mistaken and I can start telling other groups what I know better about them than they themselves do, despite not possibly having the slightest clue at all? If we’re going to continue with the paternalistic sexism, let’s throw in some old-fashioned racism as well, shall we? Why restrict the bigotry? Let’s have a free-for-all, the more offensive the better? ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/79 "2018-09-28T14:25:11Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > Apparently the mods don’t see it that way. I’m giving it a few more days, then I am permanently leaving. I don’t need this. I asked if I could have a refund on my membership purchase from a few weeks ago, but was told no. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017/80 "2018-09-28T14:51:41Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > The thing is, I don’t think that letting the sexist trolls run this board is in its long term financial interest. Pretty soon, the only people left here will be about a dozen posters making rape jokes to each other. > [@Ulfreida](#): > > Apparently the mods don’t see it that way. I’m giving it a few more days, then I am permanently leaving. I don’t need this. That gives me an idea… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-humble-suggestion-at-fixing-the-misogyny-stuff/822017.md?page=5)