# My Hummer isn't big enough anymore, I feel inadequate. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 14, 2004, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469 "2004-09-14T21:14:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2004, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/1 "2004-09-14T21:14:33Z")
[US commercial truck maker touts “extreme” passenger truck](http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040913/bs_afp/us_auto_truck) > [@](#): > > The CXT combines towing, dumping and tilt bed capability with 220 hp and 540 lb.-ft. of torque. At six tons, its hauling capability is three times the payload of consumer pick-up trucks. > > Buyers will be able to customise their new set of wheels with a leather interior with wood grain trim, reclining captain chairs, a fold-down bench that can be used as a bed, a DVD, and a rear-mounted camera for increased visibility behind the vehicle. > > “The International CXT is a truck for businesses that want to promote themselves as much as perform,” said Rob Swim, a spokesman for International Truck and Engine Corporation. “If you brought this truck to the playground, you’d be king of the dirt pile.” I can see some legitimate commercial uses for this thing, but let’s not kid ourselves. Plenty of people with the bucks are going to make their bid for “king of the dirt pile,” something that usually only elementary school kids strive for. I wouldn’t be too suprised to see the Governator tooling around in one of these Tonka trucks soon. ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2004, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/2 "2004-09-14T21:30:49Z")
I really don’t think you’ll see that at all. With only 220HP, and 540 ft. lbs of torque, the thing couldn’t get out of its own way on the freeway. We all know soccer moms like to go fast, and this won’t be fast at all I don’t think, it’s a monster. I could be wrong though, stranger things have definitely happened! Sam ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2004, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/3 "2004-09-14T21:44:07Z")
Boy that truck has been making the rounds all over the web these days. I doubt anyone would have bought it until we made their viral marketing technique successful. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2004, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/4 "2004-09-14T21:56:30Z")
I can’t wait to pass one of _these_ in my Smart. 🙂 [sub]Note: **Sunspace** does not actually own a Smart. Yet.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2004, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/5 "2004-09-14T21:59:34Z")
Man, the overcompensating boyfriend of an acquaintance of mine just took delivery of a Hummer H2. In bright yellow. I bet he’s gonna be kicking himself now. Seriously, though, what the GVW of this thing? Look’s to me like it’ll require a trucker’s licence to drive it legally. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2004, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/6 "2004-09-14T22:01:10Z")
You aren’t going to see many of these vehicles. You see, it would be illegal for most people to drive one. At 6 tons, it’s a commercial vehicle; you would need a class A license to legally drive it on a public road in almost any state or province. The limit for G-class licenses (the type of license you probably have) in most jurisdictions is about five tons. ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2004, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/7 "2004-09-14T23:12:38Z")
> **[Driver's License or ID Card Renewal - California DMV](https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/driver-licenses-identification-cards/renew-your-driver-license-dl-or-identification-card-id/)** > > It's important to renew DLs, ID cards, and provisional instruction permits before they expire. The expiration date is noted on the card. > [@California DMV](#): > > A commercial vehicle is a motor vehicle or combination used for hire to transport passengers or property or which: > > ``` > * Has a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 26,001 pounds or more > * Is designed, used, or maintained for carrying more than 10 passengers, including the driver > * Tows a vehicle or trailer, which has a GVWR of 10,001 pounds or more > * Transports hazardous materials, which requires placards > * Tows any combination of two trailers or vehicle and trailer > > ``` According to the [International 7300 CXT brochure (pdf file)](http://www.internationaldelivers.com/assets/pdf/7300%20CXT%20SS.pdf), the GVW is 25,999 pounds - just 2 pounds under the California limit. So someone with a basic Class C license could drive one of these things just for kicks after all. If they happen to have 10[sup]7[/sup] cents lodged in the couch cushions, anyway. Obviously the cost is a limiting factor, but I really don’t want to see a bunch of these things driven by idiots. At least they’ll be ponderous and easy to dodge. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2004, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/8 "2004-09-14T23:30:47Z")
Gotta love that verticle exhaust pipe. I thought no one but an absolute tool would buy a Hummer, but apparently there are a lot more tools out there than I thought… Who knows about this monstrosity. ---
**Author:** ![Earthling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90db22/32.png) [@Earthling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earthling)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2004, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/9 "2004-09-14T23:52:16Z")
[Life imitates art](http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?n=156,177&sid=177&article=1675) (notice the date). And **sturmhauke** , you may find [this article](http://slate.msn.com/id/2104755) interesting. ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/10 "2004-09-15T00:30:12Z")
Very interesting. I’ve seen those 6000 lb limits all over the place, but I didn’t know SUVs were that heavy. I’m all for enforcing the law on the damn things. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/11 "2004-09-15T02:09:14Z")
> [@](#): > > Buyers will be able to customise their new set of wheels with…a rear-mounted camera for increased visibility behind the vehicle. This belongs on the list of Signs Your Vehicle Might Be Too Goddamn Big. I’m long since used to the fact that my little Cabrio and I are on borrowed time; I am, however, increasingly worried that no one will notice our demise. ---
**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/12 "2004-09-15T02:46:41Z")
> [@sturmhauke](#): > > the GVW is 25,999 pounds - just 2 pounds under the California limit. So someone with a basic Class C license could drive one of these things just for kicks after all. Obviously, that two pound difference wasn’t an accident. But, look at that brochure, and you’ll find out what got left off to save the weight. Tows up to 12,000 pounds? Yeah, if you add on the optional hitch. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![TastesLikeBurning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@TastesLikeBurning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TastesLikeBurning)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/13 "2004-09-15T03:38:01Z")
Over here in Australia we have been experiencing quite a rise in the numbers of large 4WDs (or SUVs as you guys call them) on our roads. I hate them with a passion, but by “them”, I’m referring to the pristine ones that never or hardly ever see anything other than bitumen. For those that are interested, I am currently reading a book called “High & Mighty - The Dangerous Rise of the SUV”, whose author is Keith Bradsher. What I have read so far is very well informed and backed up by facts and cites, not to mention infuriating for those who feel the same way that I do. [High & Mighty](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1586481231/002-2434028-0049638?v=glance) ---
**Author:** ![gooti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eb8c5e/32.png) [@gooti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gooti)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/14 "2004-09-15T03:57:18Z")
Steelers WR Plaxico Burress showed up to training camp in July [driving a Ford F650](http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04209/352449.stm) Googling gives me specs from the F650: > [@](#): > > • Work Ready models include: > – F-650 > – Pre-configured Power Stroke® engine offerings > – Allison 2000 5-speed automatic transmission or Eaton FS-5406A 6-speed manual > – 26,000 lbs. GVWR > > • The 6.0L Power Stroke® is available in four engine ratings: > – 200 horsepower, 520 lb.-ft. torque > – 215 horsepower, 540 lb.-ft. torque > – 230 horsepower, 540 lb.-ft. torque > – 230 horsepower, 620 lb.-ft. torque Sounds pretty darn close to the same thing as this CXT. Plaxico = trendsetter = idiot ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/15 "2004-09-15T04:21:10Z")
> [@sturmhauke](#): > > the GVW is 25,999 pounds - just 2 pounds under the California limit. So someone with a basic Class C license could drive one of these things just for kicks after all. If they happen to have 10[sup]7[/sup] cents lodged in the couch cushions, anyway.these California, I hasten to add, is one of the few jurisdictions with a high weight definition for commercial vehicle. Alberta is another. However, California specifically exempts pickup trucks from commercial vehicle weight restrictions under the Commercial Vehicle Registration Act (2001) anyway. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/16 "2004-09-15T05:54:27Z")
I have never seen a better candidate for [this](http://www.octanecreative.com/Parodyville/btsp/index.html) webiste. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/17 "2004-09-15T06:31:24Z")
> [@gooti](#): > > Googling gives me specs from the F650: > > [F650 specs snipped] > > Sounds pretty darn close to the same thing as this CXT. At half the price. A standard F-650 is around $45,000. It also comes as a cab and chasis rig so that you can put whatever bed is most practical for your industry on it. Basically, it’s a work truck - the International looks like a toy. I used to drive a truck about that size for a landscaper. I can’t imagine anybody wanting to navigate that beast to work every day. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/18 "2004-09-15T06:43:59Z")
Sorry guys, I don’t have a small penis and I want one. Just for the fact that they’re so Obnoxiously large. Plus there’s the kid inside of me that just says “Wow! cool fucking truck!” Needs wider tires though… ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/19 "2004-09-15T06:51:00Z")
Yeah, because “obnoxiously large” should be part of everyone’s criteria for choosing a vehicle. ---
**Author:** ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469/20 "2004-09-15T13:36:52Z")
Unless I missed the link, here’s the [official web site](http://www.internationaldelivers.com/site_layout/severe/cxt.asp). It does look kind of cool, but considering how, after the Hummer came out, we saw them taking up two handicap parking spots all around town, I can’t imagine what will happen if this thing, er, gets big. And I thought that the Escalade EXT was the supreme statement in malicious conspicuous consumption. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-hummer-isnt-big-enough-anymore-i-feel-inadequate/264469.md?page=2)