# my idiotic jackass cousins latest political theory  (or obamas plan to have an isis take over.......

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**Created:** [July 17, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149 "2016-07-17T20:35:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Me\_Billy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Me\_Billy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Me_Billy)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/81 "2016-07-18T20:11:52Z")

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Well if it is in the Enquirer, then it must be true! Same as that story about the boy with dolphin fins.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/82 "2016-07-18T20:15:39Z")

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> [@Me\_Billy](#):
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> Well if it is in the Enquirer, then it must be true! Same as that story about the boy with dolphin fins.

If it is in the NYT, then it must be true. Right?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/83 "2016-07-18T20:26:59Z")

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Obama wanted to “lose” many of those cases, like the Defense of Marriage act, US vs Windsor, and more.

Count those as losses if you want, **D’Anconia** , but that seems silly to me when Obama got the ruling he wanted.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/84 "2016-07-18T20:40:27Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> I’ve heard that “he’s gonna cancel the election” trope about every two-termer since Nixon. BS then, BS now.

Actually, I have this vision of Reince Priebus, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney paying secret visits to Obama, saying " Hey, you know that thing people have been saying you are going to do…cancel the elections, declare martial law, and make yourself King of the USA? Please do it, please please please.

And Obama grins and says NO!!!

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/85 "2016-07-18T21:50:51Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> So, I see you’re continuing the tradition of either being wrong about absolutely everything or else deliberately misrepresenting everything in order to promote your insanely distorted view of the world. . . .

**adaher** has competition!

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/86 "2016-07-18T22:04:23Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> What do they teach in schools? President can just do whatever he wants?

In Texas, probably. Or they think that since Obama **is** a filthy goddamn furriner he wouldn’t know the rules.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/87 "2016-07-18T22:18:35Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> **adaher** has competition!

At least **adaher** hasn’t tried to tell us we’re doing the Internet, message boards in particular, wrong.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/88 "2016-07-18T22:47:25Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> He has the lowest winning percentage of any President, going back to 1946.

Yes, keep repeating the same bullshit like a broken record. Eventually everyone will bow to your wisdom. It’s inevitable.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/89 "2016-07-18T22:51:01Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Yes, keep repeating the same bullshit like a broken record. Eventually everyone will bow to your wisdom. It’s inevitable.

That’s not bowing, it’s dry heaves.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/90 "2016-07-19T00:18:33Z")

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[http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wh-responds-to-petition-to-label-black-lives-matter-a-terror-group/ar-BBuqWxg?li=BBnbfcL](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wh-responds-to-petition-to-label-black-lives-matter-a-terror-group/ar-BBuqWxg?li=BBnbfcL)

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/91 "2016-07-19T00:36:11Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Yes, keep repeating the same bullshit like a broken record.

Which Administration lost more cases before the Supreme Court, then?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/92 "2016-07-19T00:41:00Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Which Administration lost more cases before the Supreme Court, then?

Considering that many of Obama’s “losses” were actually what his administration wanted, then I’m not sure.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/93 "2016-07-19T00:45:01Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Considering that many of Obama’s “losses” were actually what his administration wanted, then I’m not sure.

I’ll give you _Windsor_, since Attorney General Holder announced the Administration wouldn’t defend the law, and another group took over (and lost, obviously).

What other cases do you have in mind where Obama “wanted” to lose?

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**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/94 "2016-07-19T01:03:37Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> My plan come January 21st, 2017 is to go back through all the whack job claims and ‘predictions’ and the like about what Obama would do as President, list them and what actually happened, then post that list **every fucking place I can**.
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> Along with some choice bible verses about false prophecy and slander.
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> If I win the lottery between now and then, I’ll pay to post it as an ad on every goddamned right wing site I can buy ad space on, at least until they demand it be removed. 😃

They’ll have moved on to Hillary well before then.  
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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/95 "2016-07-19T01:13:27Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> Way back when dinosaurs still roamed the American continent, I was taught about checks and balances between the three branches of government. That said, people like _idiotic jackass cousin_ may have been taught such things, but they never actually learned it.

I should have said "people like _idiotic jackass cousin_ and **D’Anconia**. It’s a race to the bottom…who can be the most ignorant. Coming this election season on FOX!

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/96 "2016-07-19T01:32:35Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Which Administration lost more cases before the Supreme Court, then?

The relevant facts in terms of the makeup of Congress and the Court itself have already been explained to you. One generally assesses reality in terms of the totality of relevant facts, not just one happy number that one obsesses over like a cat chasing the bright dot of a laser pointer. Otherwise one is not dealing with reality and one is proving oneself to be at best a relentless partisan or, more likely and in more common parlance, a fucking idiot.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/97 "2016-07-19T01:38:08Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> The relevant facts in terms of the makeup of Congress and the Court itself have already been explained to you. One generally assesses reality in terms of the totality of relevant facts, not just one happy number that one obsesses over like a cat chasing the bright dot of a laser pointer. Otherwise one is not dealing with reality and one is **proving oneself to be at best a relentless partisan or, more likely and in more common parlance, a fucking idiot.**

It’s both. I’ve never seen the [del]eldritch horror[/del] pathetic weasel go after anyone who’s even vaguely right-wing.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/98 "2016-07-19T02:07:24Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> The relevant facts in terms of the makeup of Congress and the Court itself have already been explained to you.

The makeup of Congress is irrelevant, and does not give the Executive an excuse to undertake unconstitutional actions. The concept of “Obstructionism” is b.s.

Congress is not under any obligation–legally, ethically, or morally–to support any particular President’s policies. This is a feature, not a bug.

The same thing can be said of the makeup of the Court. Even Justices Ginsburg and Breyer, appointed by Bill Clinton, and Justices Sotomayor and Kagan, appointed by Obama, have ruled against him in _Noel Canning_ et alia.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/99 "2016-07-19T02:33:12Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> The makeup of Congress is irrelevant, and does not give the Executive an excuse to undertake unconstitutional actions. The concept of “Obstructionism” is b.s.

Sure, pal, [anything you say](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/05/03/happy-hour-roundup-new-report-confirms-gop-obstructionism-is-unprecedented/).

> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Congress is not under any obligation–legally, ethically, or morally–to support any particular President’s policies. This is a feature, not a bug.

They are most definitely under an ethical obligation to _ **consider** _ his policies on their merits, fairly and in the nation’s interest. That’s why they exist. Rather than, for instance, deeming that a president is unfit, for instance, to appoint a SCOTUS justice in the last 25% of his term.

> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> The same thing can be said of the makeup of the Court. Even Justices Ginsburg and Breyer, appointed by Bill Clinton, and Justices Sotomayor and Kagan, appointed by Obama, have ruled against him in _Noel Canning_ et alia.

Is that your justification of “often”? What about the example I cited of the unprecedented ruling of the wingnut contingent of the court so slavering to shut down EPA regulation that they jumped the gun before a federal appeals hearing was even held? By 5-4, again, of course. You truly are a fuckwit.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-idiotic-jackass-cousins-latest-political-theory-or-obamas-plan-to-have-an-isis-take-over/760149/100 "2016-07-19T02:39:48Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Is that your justification of “often”? What about the example I cited of the unprecedented ruling of the wingnut contingent of the court so slavering to shut down EPA regulation that they jumped the gun before a federal appeals hearing was even held? By 5-4, again, of course. You truly are a fuckwit.

But those are five unelected judges he can get behind.

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