# My issues with that stupid horse movie, ehh Wraith? Ghost? Spirit? something undead?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 28, 2002, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-issues-with-that-stupid-horse-movie-ehh-wraith-ghost-spirit-something-undead/111192 "2002-05-28T15:32:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-issues-with-that-stupid-horse-movie-ehh-wraith-ghost-spirit-something-undead/111192/41 "2002-05-30T08:17:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bad News Baboon \*  
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> however, the three movies that I can think of that take place in current times (return to neverland, lilo and toy story) all have families that are not mixed.  
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Most families aren’t mixed. If it makes you feel any better the detective from Disney’s tv series cartoon “Gargoyles” had a mixed heritage. Her mother was a latina and her father was black.

Marc

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**Author:** ![CRorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CRorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CRorex)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-issues-with-that-stupid-horse-movie-ehh-wraith-ghost-spirit-something-undead/111192/42 "2002-05-30T15:00:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by easy e \*  
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> So, uh, **CRorex** , how _you_ doin’?😉 \*\*

WHOOT!

4 of 4!

Ordering a new bartending book, and trying to figure out what flavor of icecream to make this weekend.

Oh yeah and I should be doing some work sometime.

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**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-issues-with-that-stupid-horse-movie-ehh-wraith-ghost-spirit-something-undead/111192/43 "2002-05-30T19:30:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ukulele Ike \*  
> \*\* Jacques the cheese-eating pencil-moustached Frenchman; Algernon the tea-sipping monocled Englishman; Ivan the vodka-swilling fur-hatted Russian; Mack, the Kid From Brooklyn, etc. Seems more like phony-baloney tokenism than anything else. \*\*

Oh! I know! I know! Atlantis!

But you forgot the Mole. 😃

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**Author:** ![easy\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/eb8c5e/32.png) [@easy\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/easy_e)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2002, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-issues-with-that-stupid-horse-movie-ehh-wraith-ghost-spirit-something-undead/111192/44 "2002-05-30T23:16:30Z")

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Whew, I was beginning to think that my first attempt at flirting on the boards was a big failure.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2002, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-issues-with-that-stupid-horse-movie-ehh-wraith-ghost-spirit-something-undead/111192/45 "2002-05-31T18:41:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MGibson \*  
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> Most families aren’t mixed. If it makes you feel any better the detective from Disney’s tv series cartoon “Gargoyles” had a mixed heritage. Her mother was a latina and her father was black.
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> Marc \*\*

IIRC it was twother way round.

Elisa Maza’s mother shows up in the episode with Ananse, the spider. Mom’s voice was provided by (tip of my tongue…Michelle Nicholls? You know Lt Uhura).

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 Dad shows up in an episode with (crap was it Raven or Coyote?). His heritage includes Mexican and at least one southwestern tribe (can't remember which one.)

Elisa looked Hispanic, while her brother looked Afro-American. Then, bro was turned into a winged panther-man. Now, that's a diverse family.

   Had the series continued, the family would have had even more variety in the next generation. Elisa was moving into a serious relationship with Goliath-a 1000 year old, winged, clawed, grey-skinned, guy from Scotland (or was it Ireland?) who turns into a statue from sunrise to sunset. 

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Static Shock-  
On the subject of diversity in cartoons, I recommend this. Static is one of the few black heroes not have a name with black in it (Black Lightning, Black Panther, etc).

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**Author:** ![CRorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CRorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CRorex)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2002, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-issues-with-that-stupid-horse-movie-ehh-wraith-ghost-spirit-something-undead/111192/46 "2002-05-31T18:54:22Z")

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Sorry Easy E, but I do have to do what I’m paid for, every now and then 🙂

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-issues-with-that-stupid-horse-movie-ehh-wraith-ghost-spirit-something-undead/111192/47 "2002-06-02T08:17:20Z")

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**Prince of Egypt** hinged on the fact that the main character was of a different background from his family. Of course, it was not an original concept :), but there it is.

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> _Originally posted by MachV_  
> C’mon, I know it’s gonna have a happy ending and all, but why do they have to give me the Cliff’s Notes version of the whole story?\*\*

I think it’s permissible when promoting a kids’ film. Or at least a film that’s supposed to be okay for kids, even if it also appeals to adults. The commercials for **Chicken Run** emphasized the danger element (“The odds are a million to one!” “So there’s still a chance!”) but ended with all the chickens in the “old crate” cheering “We made it!”. Kids won’t want to see a movie if they think it might end badly.

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