# My Kindle Died. I'm Sad. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 11, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-kindle-died-im-sad/776898 "2017-01-11T21:06:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-kindle-died-im-sad/776898/61 "2017-01-24T16:00:01Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > The program Calibre is able to convert formats pretty much instantly. I read books on my iPad and the Kindle app is the pits, so I converted all my Amazon books from .azw to .epub. Presumably if .epubs stop being supported, there will be a way to translate to a new version. 60 or so books that were DRM/Kindle books took me about 12 mouse clicks and about 3 minutes to set up and run the conversion to completion, so time isn’t a factor either. > Incorrect. Photocopying a book to have a backup leaves you a stack of unbound papers. Breaking DRM and making a copy is an exact one-to-one duplicate of the original. The two files as an end-product are indistinguishable. Again, the issue I’m raising is comparing _within_ a category works but _between_ categories doesn’t. I am certainly not saying that two comparisons within a category are equal!!! I’m am pointing out via example that it _is_ possible to avoid cross-category comparisons. Whether those intra-category comparisons are equal _is another matter_. There are posts here that are like reading a series of posts where people are comparing the cornering maneuvering of two cars and someone pipes in, quoting one of those posts, and brings up how one car (only mentioning that one car) has leather seats. Nevermind that that wasn’t what the quoted post is about as well as ignoring that the other car might come with leather seats as well. Comparing apples to apples is good! Comparing apples to oranges makes a very poor argument and isn’t nearly as helpful to people like the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-kindle-died-im-sad/776898/62 "2017-01-24T16:15:15Z")
Okay, **ftg**. what _was_ your point in harping on what _the company_ can or might do, if it wasn’t a worry about whether or not customers would have perpetual access to the books they’ve purchased? ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-kindle-died-im-sad/776898/63 "2017-01-24T18:45:10Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > Reminder for the umpteenth time: Kindle e-readers and Fire tablets are separate product lines. It’s like saying you have 3 trucks except two of them are cars. > > You do _not_ have 3 Kindles. They may be separate product lines; but there is a product still called [Kindle Fire](https://www.amazon.com/kindle-fire-hd-best-family-kids-tablet/dp/B00CU0NSCU/ref=dp_ob_title_def) on Amazon, and there is a product called [Kindle E-reader](https://www.amazon.com/b/?ie=UTF8&node=6669702011) so you CAN have 3 Kindles, and some of them could also be a Fire. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-kindle-died-im-sad/776898/64 "2017-01-24T22:14:31Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Okay, **ftg**. what _was_ your point in harping on what _the company_ can or might do, if it wasn’t a worry about whether or not customers would have perpetual access to the books they’ve purchased? And continuing to _completely_ miss the point. People are making weird posts. They counter one thing about eBooks with a completely _unrelated_ thing about books. As I have repeatedly said: apples and oranges. To highlight this weirdness I have pointed out how apples and apples comparisons _might_ be done. I am in no way shape or form suggesting that the apples and apples examples are really great examples. Only that they do exist and suggest that people _think_ about the type of comparison they are making before posting. Don’t you think its really odd that 1. People keep making weird apples and oranges comparisons? 2. That they completely fail to see what is going on? Now, I could make hypotheses about all this, but I’d be getting into stuff best left unsaid. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-kindle-died-im-sad/776898/65 "2017-01-24T22:50:01Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > And continuing to _completely_ miss the point. > > People are making weird posts. They counter one thing about eBooks with a completely _unrelated_ thing about books. As I have repeatedly said: apples and oranges. > > To highlight this weirdness I have pointed out how apples and apples comparisons _might_ be done. > > I am in no way shape or form suggesting that the apples and apples examples are really great examples. Only that they do exist and suggest that people _think_ about the type of comparison they are making before posting. > > Don’t you think its really odd that 1. People keep making weird apples and oranges comparisons? 2. That they completely fail to see what is going on? > > Now, I could make hypotheses about all this, but I’d be getting into stuff best left unsaid. I say this with no sarcasm whatsoever: I have _no_ idea what you’re trying to say. A book–ebook or dead-tree contains information. The bulk of the discussion is which is more vulnerable to loss of data, which is easier to back up, etc. Apples to Apples. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-kindle-died-im-sad/776898/66 "2017-01-24T23:54:07Z")
In case anyone is interested, I now have a case for Precioussssssssssssss II and my new Fitbit Charge 2 arrived today. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-kindle-died-im-sad/776898/67 "2017-01-25T01:22:48Z")
I’m interested! Aren’t the new Paperwhites just sooo divine? We are so lucky to live in this year. I always think about the books Robert Heinlein had his characters read. He imagined books on scrolls - like an autoadvancing film strip. He describes his characters manually picking up the physical book scroll and sticking it into a projector which projects the text on the ceiling. I think these Paperwhites are so much more elegant and convenient, with the popup touchscreens and footnotes, and hundreds of books available all the time. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-kindle-died-im-sad/776898/68 "2017-01-25T15:30:17Z")
I’ve always had the Fire. I like being able to pop on to the library website when I’ve finished a book. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-kindle-died-im-sad/776898.md?page=3)