# My love/hate relationship with the WWE
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [September 25, 2002, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581 "2002-09-25T05:06:04Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@gouda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gouda)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2002, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/1 "2002-09-25T05:06:04Z")
I really don’t get it - why, why, why do I watch World Wrestling Entertainment??
I’m a generally non-violent person, and don’t particularly enjoy watching violence on the TV either. I can’t bear soap operas. I’m generally put off by pre-arranged and rehearsed “spectacles”. And I’m convinced the WWE is one gigantic, very well orchestrated, unapologetically violent soap opera. And I still enjoy watching it.
I have full respect for the people who run the show, because it is SO well organised. I have even more respect for the wrestlers themselves, because they are true athletes. Rarely does one see such a collection of people in such amazing physical shape.
But they are bad actors, and it shows in the ring. Wrestlers are already falling a few moments before they get rammed with that ‘flying clothesline’! I think The Rock has great charisma and attitude, not to mention physical prowess, but I don’t think much of his trademark ‘rock bottom’ move - If wrestlers can recover from a loud smack to the head with a steel chair (are they really steel?), then surely he can get up from the ‘people’s elbow’!! But nooooo. Seeing The Undertaker lift his opponent above his head and throw him to the canvas is amazing - I marvel at his strength. But at the same time, doesn’t it hurt being thrown from 7 above the ground onto your back?? Don’t things break where they shouldn’t??
And don’t get me started on the women in the WWE!! Do they actualy enjoy fighting (they rarely ‘wrestle’) in their underwear in front of 30,000 people??? Aren’t they afraid something might go ‘snap’?? And mud-fights?? Thats demeaning, no matter how much you get paid!!
And I still enjoy watching the show!! Does anyone have an explanation for this??
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### Author:  [@jack\_ss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jack_ss)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2002, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/2 "2002-09-25T06:55:57Z")
It’s a post-modern substitute for ritual? (get the table!)
I like it too, but I watch the tape of it between 2 & 4 am and usually fall asleep before the headline match.
Seriously, nobody can take a clothesline like Rikishi. Nobody.
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### Author:  [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2002, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/3 "2002-09-25T10:10:11Z")
yes, the steel is real.
yes, it does hurt.
BUT, you get used to it, and your body learns to absorb punishment.
personally, my favourite moment is teh two Foley cage bumps against the Undertaker. Sheer madness.
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### Author:  [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2002, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/4 "2002-09-25T12:08:39Z")
Yes, the bumps are real.
The women do it for the fame, I guess.
For me, it’s the spectacle (nothing like a Van Terminator), the cheese factor and the men.
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### Author:  [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2002, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/5 "2002-09-25T12:30:26Z")
and the Shockmaster. Its all for the Shockmaster.
hardygrrl marks for handbabies.
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### Author:  [@gouda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gouda)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2002, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/6 "2002-09-25T13:20:28Z")
Yeah, I loved those Foley cage fights against the Undertaker too. They were classics!!
Love the Spear by Egde too!!
What are these guys like in real life?
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### Author:  [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2002, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/7 "2002-09-25T13:24:16Z")
Well, Steve Austin is an alleged Wife Beater, Val Venis is a Republican, Eddie Guerrero has a drug problem, Brian Christopher and the Raod Dogg like to toke, Mick Foley is a pretty good author, and Triple H likes bacon.
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### Author:  [@gouda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gouda)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2002, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/8 "2002-09-25T13:39:01Z")
Speaking of HHH, I saw that last fight between him and his ex-best friend. Heck, I saw what he ‘did’ before that fight!
Have these guys gone a bit soft in the head??? Why would anyone agree to a fight which would end up like this one did!?!?!? A fella would have to hate someone something BAD to do that kind of damage. Seriously. Why would Sean Micheals agree to getting beat up like that??
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### Author:  [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2002, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/9 "2002-09-25T15:01:50Z")
because he is getting paid for it, and it definitely looked worse than it was.
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### Author:  [@miamouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miamouse)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2002, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/10 "2002-09-25T15:12:56Z")
Me to about the love hate thing. We had wrestling parties all throughout highschool. I liked the fact that they all had some kind of goofy gimmick. (The Barber, Jake the Snake, British Bulldogs, The Ultimate Warrior, etc.) I stopped watching though, when they had men fighting skimpy clad women in the ring or smacking them around outside the ring. I have no prob with the women fighting the women though.
ALOT of young kids watch this stuff, I didn’t like the message my son might have picked up. Just when we start watching again, and my son is in love with Steve Austin, I have to have a talk with him about what he did. At the end I asked him what he thought and he says “I don’t think I like him anymore” (all by himself, I was so proud).
I also kind of miss the times when they’d show up at a local high school and wrestle unknowns. Are they even using unknowns anymore? And what happened to the guys/girls who were training to be wrestlers on that reality show?
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### Author:  [@blur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blur)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2002, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/11 "2002-09-25T17:10:51Z")
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> \*Originally posted by gouda \*
> \*\*Speaking of HHH, I saw that last fight between him and his ex-best friend. Heck, I saw what he ‘did’ before that fight!
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> Have these guys gone a bit soft in the head??? Why would anyone agree to a fight which would end up like this one did!?!?!? A fella would have to hate someone something BAD to do that kind of damage. Seriously. Why would Sean Micheals agree to getting beat up like that?? \*\*
Here is the answer, according to Terry Funk:
_“What’s so stupid about it, is the worse you hurt each other, the more money you make. And the more money you make, the better friends you are.”_
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### Author:  [@blur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blur)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2002, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/12 "2002-09-25T17:13:24Z")
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> \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \*
> \*\*
> hardygrrl marks for handbabies. \*\*
BWAHAHAHA!!!
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### Author:  [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2002, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/13 "2002-09-26T12:11:05Z")
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> \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \*
> \*\*and the Shockmaster. Its all for the Shockmaster.
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> hardygrrl marks for handbabies. \*\*
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> _originally posted by blur_ **BWAHAHAHAHB**
Why, you two Kwee-Wee marks, long standing members of the Warrior fan club, proud owners of Rockabilly jackets…
I have two words for ya…
**SUCK IT!!!**
:: gives the DX crotch chop to **TwistofFate** and **blur**
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### Author:  [@blur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blur)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2002, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/14 "2002-09-26T14:03:41Z")
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> \*Originally posted by hardygrrl \*
> \*\*
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> Why, you two Kwee-Wee marks, long standing members of the Warrior fan club, proud owners of Rockabilly jackets…
> I have two words for ya…
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> **SUCK IT!!!**
> :: gives the DX crotch chop to **TwistofFate** and **blur** \*\*
Yes, you too can learn to cut promos like the one you just read by enrolling in the Jeff Hardy School of Mumbling Bumbling Public Speaking. Soon young hardygrrl will learn to improvise with an “ohhhhYEAAAAHHHH”. When Ms. grrrrrrrrrrl reaches advanced classes, she’ll have Prof. Nash explaining the importance of flipping your long, shiney locks (if she doesn’t get confused with the shiney part first) while properly begining her promo with “Ya know” or the ever popular “I’ve got something to say”. In true showman (or grrl) style, she’ll continue to learn not just how to copy other styles, but to avoid trying out her own, and instead use phrases half a decade old to invoke “cheap heat”. Until then, please continue to “smell what the hardygrrl is cooking”.
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### Author:  [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2002, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/15 "2002-09-26T23:24:23Z")
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> \*Originally posted by blur \*
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> Yes, you too can learn to cut promos like the one you just read by enrolling in the Jeff Hardy School of Mumbling Bumbling Public Speaking. Soon young hardygrrl will learn to improvise with an “ohhhhYEAAAAHHHH”. When Ms. grrrrrrrrrrl reaches advanced classes, she’ll have Prof. Nash explaining the importance of flipping your long, shiney locks (if she doesn’t get confused with the shiney part first) while properly begining her promo with “Ya know” or the ever popular “I’ve got something to say”. In true showman (or grrl) style, she’ll continue to learn not just how to copy other styles, but to avoid trying out her own, and instead use phrases half a decade old to invoke “cheap heat”. Until then, please continue to “smell what the hardygrrl is cooking”. \*\*
Still bitter about the ChuckaBilly fiasco? Trips doesn’t answer your AIM’s?
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### Author:  [@Yossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yossarian)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2002, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/16 "2002-09-26T23:47:37Z")
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> \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \*
> **Val Venis is a Republican**
Actually, Val Venis (Sean Morley) is (1) Canadian, and (2) Libertarian.
[Cite.](http://www.lp.org/lpnews/0103/venis.html)
Also, I hear that The Rock is a pretty good cook or something.
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### Author:  [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2002, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/17 "2002-09-27T10:16:30Z")
I did not know that. I was just going on what Mick Foley wrote about him in his book.
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### Author:  [@FunGuy\_from\_Yuggoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FunGuy_from_Yuggoth)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2002, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/18 "2002-10-02T04:05:07Z")
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> \*Originally posted by gouda \*
> \*\*Yeah, I loved those Foley cage fights against the Undertaker too. They were classics!!
> \*\*
Just had to chime in as someone who used to have an Undertaker bumpersticker (until an unfortunate rear-ending).
The Undertaker is my favorite wrestler ever. Followed very closely by The American Dream Dusty Rhodes.
Rest in Peace!
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### Author:  [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2002, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/19 "2002-10-02T11:10:35Z")
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> Undertaker bumpersticker (until an unfortunate rear-ending).
That must be the first recorded instance of the Undertaker actually taking a bump.
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### Author:  [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2002, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-wwe/129581/20 "2002-10-02T11:55:18Z")
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> \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \*
> \*\*
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> That must be the first recorded instance of the Undertaker actually taking a bump. \*\*
Bet he didn’t sell it. 😃
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