# "My Naked Truth" or what I call "Bullshit"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 15, 2014, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228 "2014-07-15T21:59:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/21 "2014-07-16T02:04:38Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> And no goddammit that was not “sneak bragging” in the second paragraph, it was directly and unsneakily to the point. She’s establishing that abstracting the age out of the equation, she’s got what generally “should” be an attractive body. It’s a fair point to make, and if we call any attempt to make the point “sneak bragging” then we’re disallowing a fair point from the outset.

There was a million ways for her to say she was fit and a small size without going into detail and, by the same token, every “negative” that she offered reminded me of people on job interviews whose only “flaw” is that they care too much. Uhuh.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/22 "2014-07-16T02:08:23Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> I don’t find the story, in general outline, to be unbelievable. I’m certain she paraphrased the dialogue, but nothing seems intended to deceive here.
> 
> Contrary to the OP, it’s not true that every guy will stick his dick in anything that offers.

QFT

When I was in my early 20’s I had a girlfriend who repeatedly tried to get me to let her friend suck my dick or have a three way. She felt sorry for her because she didn’t have a boyfriend and was always complaining that no one would touch her.

I finally had to tell her in no certain terms to drop it 'cause it wasn’t happening. The problem was that her friend was just the most unpleasant person I had met up to that point. She took it very personally that she didn’t have a boyfriend and was bitter, sarcastic, and mean spirited.

Bottom line, if I don’t want to even be in the same room with you, I’m sure not gonna fuck you. Believe it or not personality counts, even for women.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/23 "2014-07-16T02:09:29Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> Do you also spend the entire weekend with them naked?
> 
> Because you conveniently left that part out.

Entire weekend, no.  
Showered with them, seen them naked plenty of times.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/24 "2014-07-16T02:11:47Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> QFT
> 
> When I was in my early 20’s I had a girlfriend who repeatedly tried to get me to let her friend suck my dick or have a three way. She felt sorry for her because she didn’t have a boyfriend and was always complaining that no one would touch her.
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> I finally had to tell her in no certain terms to drop it 'cause it wasn’t happening. The problem was that her friend was just the most unpleasant person I had met up to that point. She took it very personally that she didn’t have a boyfriend and was bitter, sarcastic, and mean spirited.
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> Bottom line, if I don’t want to even be in the same room with you, I’m sure not gonna fuck you. Believe it or not personality counts, even for women.

Bottom line, this is not at all analogous to anything said by the OP. The OP didn’t say that men will stick their dicks in anything that offers. Maybe you and Frylock should re-read.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/25 "2014-07-16T02:12:54Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> Entire weekend, no.  
> Showered with them, seen them naked plenty of times.

But you didn’t cuddle with them and spend most of the weekend in bed with them naked. That’s the part you’re missing.

If someone is turned off by the sight of a naked 59-year-old, then why would he spend so much time doing sexual things with one?

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/26 "2014-07-16T02:18:13Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> Bottom line, this is not at all analogous to anything said by the OP. The OP didn’t say that men will stick their dicks in anything that offers. Maybe you and Frylock should re-read.

Oh please. Let me be more exact with you if you must. It’s not true that men will stick their dicks in anything that offers after spending a weekend together.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/27 "2014-07-16T02:19:30Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> Bottom line, this is not at all analogous to anything said by the OP. The OP didn’t say that men will stick their dicks in anything that offers. Maybe you and Frylock should re-read.

> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> But you didn’t cuddle with them and spend most of the weekend in bed with them naked. That’s the part you’re missing.
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> If someone is turned off by the sight of a naked 59-year-old, then why would he spend so much time doing sexual things with one?

News flash - you’re experiences and opinions are not universal :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/28 "2014-07-16T02:19:50Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> But you didn’t cuddle with them and spend most of the weekend in bed with them naked. That’s the part you’re missing.
> 
> If someone is turned off by the sight of a naked 59-year-old, then why would he spend so much time doing sexual things with one?

Because there they are, in a weekend getaway, planned to last over at least a couple of nights.

There are many possible stories to tell here, but one perfectly plausible one (as I indicated in my previous post) is that he was trying/hoping it would happen, because he felt it _should_ happen or that it was _expected_ to happen.

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/29 "2014-07-16T02:22:02Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
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> There was a million ways for her to say she was fit and a small size without going into detail and, by the same token, every “negative” that she offered reminded me of people on job interviews whose only “flaw” is that they care too much. Uhuh.

It’s a scene in which she is going over her body in a mirror. There’s going to be details.

What you’re doing here is not allowing a woman to speak positively about her own body without thereby being considered a braggart.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/30 "2014-07-16T02:22:19Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> Bottom line, this is not at all analogous to anything said by the OP. The OP didn’t say that men will stick their dicks in anything that offers. Maybe you and Frylock should re-read.

> [@fisha](#):
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> I know men. I work with men every single day, I’ve been married forever, and before then I might have talked to one or two.
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> No man would spend a weekend naked with some woman he was interested in and not screw her because she was too wrinkly. None.

I’m not the one with the reading comprehension problem.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/31 "2014-07-16T02:25:04Z")

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Guy here (though I’ve never been with a chick older than my wife, who is 31). I call bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Flywheel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Flywheel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flywheel)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/32 "2014-07-16T02:27:24Z")

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Sounds like the [Wife of Bath’s Tale](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_wife_of_bath%27s_tale) gone horribly wrong.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/33 "2014-07-16T02:32:31Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> I’m not the one with the reading comprehension problem.

Yes, you fucking are. His post said exactly what I said it did. He didn’t say guys fuck anything, he called bullshit on the idea that a guy would spend an entire weekend naked and in sexual situations with a woman, only to say no to sex because he’s unattracted to her.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/34 "2014-07-16T02:34:36Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> News flash - you’re experiences and opinions are not universal :rolleyes:

I never said they were, moron.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/35 "2014-07-16T02:37:44Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> Oh please. Let me be more exact with you if you must. It’s not true that men will stick their dicks in anything that offers after spending a weekend together.

Also not what the OP said. Keep trying. I have faith you’ll get there.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/36 "2014-07-16T02:40:31Z")

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Jesus **Labrador Deceiver** what the fuck is your problem?  
Do you spend a lot of weekend naked with guys who won’t fuck you, because you’re really taking this way to personally.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/37 "2014-07-16T02:41:54Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> Yes, you fucking are. His post said exactly what I said it did. He didn’t say guys fuck anything, he called bullshit on the idea that a guy would spend an entire weekend naked and in sexual situations with a woman, only to say no to sex because he’s unattracted to her.

Being naked is not necessarily a sexual situation, even if you’re in bed.  
You are one warped puppy.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/38 "2014-07-16T02:43:57Z")

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I’m not taking it any more personally than you are, I just think you two are going out of your way to misconstrue what the OP is saying. Did someone not stick their dick in you because of all the wrinkles?

If I’ve offended you, them get the fuck out of the pit.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/39 "2014-07-16T02:45:33Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> Being naked is not necessarily a sexual situation, even if you’re in bed.  
> You are one warped puppy.

I never said anything of the sort, idiot. Did you actually read the linked article? Because it’s obvious you haven’t read a damn thing that’s been posted here so far.

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/40 "2014-07-16T02:46:13Z")

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> [@Calatin](#):
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> Yeah, what sends my full-of-shit-ometer off on this story is that this guy, who apparently has been “spoiled” by all these young girls, is suddenly pursuing a romantic relationship with an older woman, all of a sudden to turn tail and run when he realized “Wait a minute! She’s old and her body will appear as such!”

And the guy who has been “spoiled by younger women” is trolling for dates on internet sites.

> [@Flywheel](#):
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> Sounds like the [Wife of Bath’s Tale](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_wife_of_bath%27s_tale) gone horribly wrong.

He was supposed to kiss her first. And tell her she was in charge.

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