# "My Naked Truth" or what I call "Bullshit" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 15, 2014, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228 "2014-07-15T21:59:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/41 "2014-07-16T02:46:27Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > It’s a scene in which she is going over her body in a mirror. There’s going to be details. > > What you’re doing here is not allowing a woman to speak positively about her own body without thereby being considered a braggart. I’m not keeping her from spreading her bullshit at all. As a matter of fact, I wish her well. However, just so you know, if you tell your audience that you wear a size 6 jeans, it is totally unnecessary to also mention that you wear size 6 _panties_. Even allowing for variances, why in the hell would your audience need to specifically know that your jeans are a size 6, but your undies are a 6.5? Because no matter what, her jeans couldn’t have been a 6 and her underwear a size 14 (which would be something worth commenting on). It was just another highlight to say that he was more turned off by her age and it’s progression than anything else that could’ve been wrong with her. Braggart indeed. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/42 "2014-07-16T02:46:28Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > Yes, you fucking are. His post said exactly what I said it did. He didn’t say guys fuck anything, he called bullshit on the idea that a guy would spend an entire weekend naked and in sexual situations with a woman, only to say no to sex because he’s unattracted to her. > [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > I’m not taking it any more personally than you are, I just think you two are going out of your way to misconstrue what the OP is saying. Did someone not stick their dick in you because of all the wrinkles? > > If I’ve offended you, them get the fuck out of the pit. Not offended at all, just wondering why you have your twat in a bunch over this. Some guys will definitely not fuck a woman because she’s wrinkly. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/43 "2014-07-16T02:46:43Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > Bottom line, this is not at all analogous to anything said by the OP. Well, there may be a sneak-brag parallel… ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/44 "2014-07-16T02:48:20Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Not offended at all, just wondering why you have your twat in a bunch over this. You first. > [@](#): > > Some guys will definitely not fuck a woman because she’s wrinkly. Nobody is saying otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/45 "2014-07-16T02:53:38Z")
Y’know, if she had a little subcutaneous fat, maybe she wouldn’t be so wrinkly. Is it remotely possible that something like this really happened, and the guy was actually turned off because she was _too_ skinny? This just now occurred to me. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/46 "2014-07-16T02:54:38Z")
You have to ignore your dick, there is no reasoning with it. “Gimmee that!” “Forget it. She’s a tornado of issues, needy, greedy and insecure” “Want it! Want it now!” “Remember last week, she was wearing a ‘Team Edward’ t-shirt…” “That was irony! Want that!” “No, it wasn’t. She started to talk about it and you tried to hide.” “Don’t care, gimmee!” “She has four cats. Fluffy, Mr. Whiskers…” OK! OK, forget it, gimmee _that_ one!"… ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/47 "2014-07-16T02:55:32Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Y’know, if she had a little subcutaneous fat, maybe she wouldn’t be so wrinkly. > > Is it remotely possible that something like this really happened, and the guy was actually turned off because she was _too_ skinny? This just now occurred to me. I don’t know, but the guy in her story was (according to her) so brutally honest that he didn’t seem like the type to lie about his reasons. ---
**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/48 "2014-07-16T02:57:10Z")
I’m a chick, by the way. “No man would spend a weekend naked with some woman he was interested in and not screw her because she was too wrinkly. None.” I stand by that statement. It doesn’t mean that a guy will stick his dick in just anything, but it does mean that it’s beyond unusual for a man to be dating a woman for several months, arrange a romantic weekend, sleep naked with contact in the same bed, then Monday morning bluntly say “I didn’t screw you because you’re old and wrinkly.” Guys can be assholes, but not like that. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/49 "2014-07-16T02:57:14Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > Nobody is saying otherwise. So we’ve established that being in bed naked in not necessarily a sexual situation, and that some guys will not fuck a woman if she’s wrinkly. Given that, the story is perfectly plausible. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/50 "2014-07-16T02:58:25Z")
> [@fisha](#): > > I’m a chick, by the way. > > “No man would spend a weekend naked with some woman he was interested in and not screw her because she was too wrinkly. None.” > > I stand by that statement. It doesn’t mean that a guy will stick his dick in just anything, but it does mean that it’s beyond unusual for a man to be dating a woman for several months, arrange a romantic weekend, sleep naked with contact in the same bed, then Monday morning bluntly say “I didn’t screw you because you’re old and wrinkly.” > > Guys can be assholes, but not like that. You’re wrong. Guys can be exactly like that. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/51 "2014-07-16T02:58:55Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > So we’ve established that being in bed naked in not necessarily a sexual situation, and that some guys will not fuck a woman if she’s wrinkly. > > Given that, the story is perfectly plausible. She says that they were in bed in a sexual way, so no. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/52 "2014-07-16T03:03:00Z")
She thought it was a sexual way. Perhaps he was thinking “God help me, how do I get out of this…” ---
**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/53 "2014-07-16T03:05:03Z")
Additionally, this appears to be a recent event. She’s supposedly an international speaker about women’s issues and ageism. What do you think the odds are that she forget to mention her new career to her new beau? I’d say just about zero chance. I’ve met these types of self promoters, and they can’t resist any opportunity to talk about themselves and their pet causes. So, this guy is dating a woman who makes some sort of living off of empowering women against society, sexism, ageism, and he’s going to bluntly say he’s not going to have sex with her because of wrinkles? Bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/54 "2014-07-16T03:07:37Z")
You really don’t believe that a man can be shallow enough to not fuck a woman because she has wrinkles, and also insensitive enough to tell her so? ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/55 "2014-07-16T03:08:37Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > She thought it was a sexual way. > Perhaps he was thinking “God help me, how do I get out of this…” She says they kissed and implied they did some other things. You’d think that someone who couldn’t figure out how to get out of the situation would stop taking his pants off. You’d also think someone so confused about how to handle the situation wouldn’t be so brutally honest about things when asked. He sure didn’t have any hesitation about telling her that he thought she was hard to look at and that he closed his eyes and pretended that she was younger. And I think the part we find hard to believe is the inconsistency. He’s insensitive one minute, but wondering how he could get out of the situation the next. Why not get in the car and go home? ---
**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/56 "2014-07-16T03:10:37Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > You’re wrong. > Guys can be exactly like that. Right…just like all sorts of people take showers with friends of the opposite sex, in a completely non sexual way. Because…water conservation? Not saying that it’s completely impossible, anything is possible. But, no. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/57 "2014-07-16T03:12:49Z")
So he went along as much as he had to in order to avoid it getting awkward during the weekend trip, but once that was over he knew he wouldn’t be stuck with her and was able to be honest. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/58 "2014-07-16T03:14:16Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > So he went along as much as he had to in order to avoid it getting awkward during the weekend trip, but once that was over he knew he wouldn’t be stuck with her and was able to be honest. Why not go home? He doesn’t seem like the type to stretch the awkwardness out over a whole weekend. Check that, over three nights. ---
**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/59 "2014-07-16T03:14:52Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > You really don’t believe that a man can be shallow enough to not fuck a woman because she has wrinkles, and also insensitive enough to tell her so? Not to an international speaker with a new book about sexism and ageism and self actualization. I’d be more prone to possibly believing this story if it didn’t happen recently. Coincidentally recently. Pure coincidence. Really. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228/60 "2014-07-16T03:15:37Z")
Okay, just so I’m clear on what would have to happen here for this story to be true… 1.) Guy is used to younger womens, but decides to date an ‘older’ woman anyway. 2.) They date for several months without any sexy times at all that require him seeing her naked. 3.) He likes, apparently, everything else about her. 4.) He spends all weekend in bed with her naked, still without no sexy times. 5.) After the fact, he tells her the reason for no sexy times was her too aged (for him) body. And this is something he says to a person whose career is fighting against ageism against women. Wow. That’s some kind of fella to meet all that criteria. I can believe that all men don’t sleep with every woman that presents the opportunity. I can believe that men find all sorts of things unattractive and unappealing. I can believe that some men are brutally honest in their rejections. What I cannot believe is the perfect storm in that article. Nope. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-naked-truth-or-what-i-call-bullshit/693228.md?page=4)