# My name is \_\_\_\_\_ Montoya

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 2, 2001, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350 "2001-09-02T00:33:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2001, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/41 "2001-09-03T12:19:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RickJay \*  
> **3. What kind of sword does Inigo wield?**

A “_special sword_” created for the six-fingered man - The Man in Black had “_never seen its equal_”, acording to the movie. The book goes into a great deal more detail.

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> \*\*4. What is Max bitter about? \*\*

“_The king’s stinking son fired me. And thank you so much for bringing up such a painful subject. While you’re at it, why don’t you give me a nice paper cut, and pour lemon juice on it._”

My questions (since its a kissing book):

1. How many kisses are there in the movie?
2. How many kisses (“_since the invention of the kiss_”) had been rated “_the most passionate, the most pure_”?

Gp

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**Author:** ![Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spatial_Rift_47)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2001, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/42 "2001-09-03T13:37:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by grimpixie \*  
> \*\* My questions (since its a kissing book):
> 
> 1. How many kisses are there in the movie?
> 2. How many kisses (“_since the invention of the kiss_”) had been rated “_the most passionate, the most pure_”?
> 
> Gp \*\*

I’m not too sure about the first one. Perhaps 3-5?

There were five such kisses, and the one at end of the movie blew them all out of the water.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2001, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/43 "2001-09-03T14:17:13Z")

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1. During their epic sword fight, why is Inigo smiling? And later, why does the Man in Black smile, too?  
-They are not left handed
2. What kind of poison kills Vizzini?  
-Iocane powder (of which Wesley has spent the past several years building an imunity to).
3. What kind of sword does Inigo wield?  
-probably a rapier
4. What is Max bitter about?  
-The kings stinking son fired him

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**Author:** ![sjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e5b9ba/32.png) [@sjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sjc)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2001, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/44 "2001-09-03T20:00:42Z")

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In the book (I know we are discussing the movie but…) Miracle Max says that coughdrops are better than true love.

[slight hijack from the trivia format]  
In the duel to the death scene Vizzini actually was very close to the correct answer, but he didn’t quite figure it out. When he says “You’ve beaten my Giant, which means you are very strong. You could have put the poisin in your own glass trusting in your strength to save you,” he almost gets the answer. If he had followed through on that thought, he might have figured it out. What would have happened then, I am not sure.  
[/end hijack]

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/45 "2001-09-04T00:58:38Z")

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At this juncture, I feel it is my solemn duty to point y’all to the following old MPSIMS thread:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=54123](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=54123)

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**Author:** ![Lionors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c37758/32.png) [@Lionors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lionors)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/46 "2001-09-04T02:20:47Z")

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Oh…my…GAWWWDD…

Thank you, Tracer. I think. I’m fairly convinced I laughed myself into a hernia. 😃

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**Author:** ![Peregrine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a6a055/32.png) [@Peregrine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peregrine)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/47 "2001-09-04T05:23:32Z")

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That was the thread that got me to settle into SDMB in the first place. “There are some very clever people here,” I said to myself, “I think I’ll stay.”

The kisses:

There is one right after Westley fetches the pitcher, and another as he is leaving to seek his fortune. There is one when Westley and Buttercup are reunited just outside the fire swamp. There are several kisses when they are reunited again inside the castle. And then at the end there is the one that “left them all behind.” That makes five Westley-Buttercup kissing incidents.

Also, the kid’s mom kisses him, but that one probably doesn’t count. Did I miss any?

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**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/48 "2001-09-04T08:01:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Peregrine \*  
> \*\*That makes five Westley-Buttercup kissing incidents.
> 
> Also, the kid’s mom kisses him, but that one probably doesn’t count. Did I miss any? \*\*

Th only other one I can think of is when Buttercup kisses the old king…

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> **King** : Strange wedding…  
> **Queen** : Yes, a very strange wedding. Come along. [The Queen exits]  
> [Buttercup kisses King on the cheek]  
> **King** : What was that for?  
> **Buttercup** : Because you’ve always been so kind to me, and I won’t be seeing you again since I’m killing myself once we reach the honeymoon suite.  
> **King** : [happily] Won’t that be nice…She kissed me! [He giggles]

Gp

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**Author:** ![PinkyDVM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/278dde/32.png) [@PinkyDVM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PinkyDVM)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/49 "2001-09-04T11:27:08Z")

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I have a real question that is slightly off topic. Does the supposed “original” book The Princess Bride (by “S. Morgenstern”) really exist, or was William Goldman pulling our leg? No one I know has ever been able to find it.

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**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/50 "2001-09-04T12:59:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by PinkyDVM \*  
> \*\*I have a real question that is slightly off topic. Does the supposed “original” book The Princess Bride (by “S. Morgenstern”) really exist, or was William Goldman pulling our leg? No one I know has ever been able to find it. \*\*

At LAST - the truth is revealed:  
[http://www.geocities.com/jsmurfette/debate.html](http://www.geocities.com/jsmurfette/debate.html)

But wait - NEWSFLASH - S.Morgenstern is a woman:  
[http://www.voicechasers.org/Actors/S\_Morgenstern.html](http://www.voicechasers.org/Actors/S_Morgenstern.html)

😉

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/51 "2001-09-04T14:06:53Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by PinkyDVM \*  
> \*\*I have a real question that is slightly off topic. Does the supposed “original” book The Princess Bride (by “S. Morgenstern”) really exist, or was William Goldman pulling our leg? No one I know has ever been able to find it. \*\*

He’s pulling our legs, but it’s more than that: The whole “autobiographical” section in the beginning of the book is also fictional (the bit about the frigid wife and the fat son). In other words the Real William Goldman is writing about a fictional world with a character named William Goldman who shares many points of history with the real William Goldman (they both wrote the screenplay for Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, frex), but has some signifigant divergences too (the Real W.G. has two daughters and no sons). In the world of the fictional WG there’s an S. Morganstern, etc…

Fenris, who still doesn’t like the “autobiographical” section, but loves the rest of the book.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_The\_Younger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d9b06d/32.png) [@Paul\_The\_Younger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_The_Younger)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/52 "2001-09-04T14:51:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \*  
> \*\*Here’s my trivia questions:
> 
> 1. How many dreams does Buttercup have during the course of the movie that we view directly?
> 
> 2. What does Vizzini do in order to fool people into thinking that Buttercup had been kidnaped?
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> 3. What did Westley supposedly say when he was only “mostly dead”, according to Miracle Max? \*\*

I don’t think we heard the answer to #2:

He leaves a piece of fabric torn from the uniform of a Guilderian soldier on Buttercup’s saddle, and sends the horse back to the castle.

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> \*Originally posted by mobo85 \*  
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> > [@](#):
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> > \*Originally posted by GIGObuster \*  
> > \*\*Rob Reiner also directed _Spinal Tap_, what item used in that movie appeared also in the _Princess Bride_ and where? \*\*
> 
> I read this one. It’s a hat of some sort, on Fred Savage’s character’s bed. It was a compromise Rob Reiner and whoever-that-music-guy-was-for-both-movies did: If Rob put the hat in, the other guy would do the music. \*\*

This story is on the album jacket (remember those?) for the movie soundtrack. Mark Knopfler (of _Dire Straits_) agreed to do the music for the film if Reiner would put the hat he wore in _Spinal Tap_ into the film. It was a ballcap for a US Navy ship (I forget which one) which had the gold laurel wreaths on the brim. Unfortunately, Reiner had no idea what became of the hat, so he got a matching one and (I believe) it hangs on the wall or on a shelf behind the kid’s bed.

[sub]Say, does anyone else think those are the sappiest lyrics they’ve ever heard during the end credits? Sheesh…[/sub]  
Here’s my trivia questions…

1. When do the Screaming Eels get the loudest?

2. How did Buttercup discover Humperdinck was lying about sending the letter to Westley?

3. How many years had Inigo searched for the six-fingered man?

Paul

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**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/53 "2001-09-04T15:28:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Paul The Younger \*  
> \*\*Here’s my trivia questions…
> 
> 1. When do the Screaming Eels get the loudest?
> 
> 2. How did Buttercup discover Humperdinck was lying about sending the letter to Westley?
> 
> 3. How many years had Inigo searched for the six-fingered man?
> 
> Paul \*\*

1. Just before they attack
2. When he said **all** the ships in his armarda would see them off on their honeymoon - “All but your four fastest?”
3. Twenty years - Tough question, but he tells Miracle Max!!

Hmmmm

My next questions:  
a) What is the name of Miracle Max’s Wife?  
b) What is the function of the chocolate on the Miracle Pill?  
c) What is a “hippo-britanic” land mass?? (No, I really want to know…)

Gp

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**Author:** ![Sunshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Sunshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunshine)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/54 "2001-09-04T15:45:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by grimpixie \*  
> My next questions:  
> a) What is the name of Miracle Max’s Wife?  
> b) What is the function of the chocolate on the Miracle Pill?  
> c) What is a “hippo-britanic” land mass?? (No, I really want to know…)
> 
> Gp \*\*

a) Valerie _“Get back witch!” “I’m not a witch! I’m your wife!”_  
b) “It makes it go down easier”  
c) I always thought he said “hippo-potamic”, meaning hippopotamus-like (very large)

Here’s mine:

What is Count Rugen’s purpose with The Machine?

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**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/55 "2001-09-04T17:42:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Sunshine \*  
> \*\*What is Count Rugen’s purpose with The Machine? \*\*

[albino]  
“Nobody withstands the Machine.”  
[/albino]

The purpose of the Machine is to “suck life” out of the poor sap that is connected to it. Count Rugen uses it to torture Wesley in order to gain information about its effects on humans.

Rugen: “This is for posterity, so please, be honest. How do you feel?”

Wesley: [weeping]

Rugen: “Interesting.”

My trivia question:

How many times does the phrase “As you wish” occur in the movie?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/56 "2001-09-04T21:24:59Z")

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1. How does Humperdink know what kind of poison Westley used? Why is this ironic?

2. What’s the first thing to go when you fight “to the pain”? What do you keep and why?

3. What were the previous Dread Pirate Roberts’ names? Obviously, the first was Robert.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/57 "2001-09-04T21:45:32Z")

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grimpixie wrote:

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> But wait - NEWSFLASH - S.Morgenstern is a woman:  
> [http://www.voicechasers.org/Actors/S\_Morgenstern.html](http://www.voicechasers.org/Actors/S_Morgenstern.html)

No **wonder** _Princess Bride_ was one of those “kissing” books!

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**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/58 "2001-09-04T22:55:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mahaloth \*  
> **1. How does Humperdink know what kind of poison Westley used? Why is this ironic?**

He sniffs it, then says, “Iocaine powder. I’d bet my life on it!”

Ironic, perhaps, because Westley described it as “tasteless, odorless, and one of the more deadly poisons known to man.”

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> 1. What were the previous Dread Pirate Roberts’ names? Obviously, the first was Robert. \*\*

This one was already answered by **Lionors** back on page 1 🙂

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**Author:** ![Lionors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c37758/32.png) [@Lionors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lionors)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/59 "2001-09-04T23:31:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mahaloth \*  
> \*\* What’s the first thing to go when you fight “to the pain”? What do you keep and why?  
> \*\*

I believe the first thing to go is your feet, at the ankle (correct me if I’m wrong). I’m positive that what is kept are the ears so that Humperdinck can hear every exclamation of “Dear God, what is that THING!” when people see him.

And gooooood question on the powder, Mahaloth! (and good catch on the answer, Darwin’s Finch!)

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**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2001, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/60 "2001-09-05T07:46:42Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by Atreyu \*  
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> \*Originally posted by Sunshine \*  
> [albino]  
> “Nobody withstands the Machine.”  
> [/albino]  
> \*\*

[Cardinal Fang]  
“Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!!!”  
[/Cardinal Fang]

Ooops, Wrong Thread :o

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> [@](#):
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> My trivia question:  
> How many times does the phrase “As you wish” occur in the movie? \*\*

Four times by Wesley and twice by the Grandfather…

Gp

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