# My name is \_\_\_\_\_ Montoya

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 2, 2001, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350 "2001-09-02T00:33:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ACappellaCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@ACappellaCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ACappellaCat)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2001, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/61 "2001-09-05T19:15:58Z")

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1. How many of the actors (in primary roles) are no longer living?
2. What is the word that Vizzini keeps using that “does not mean what you think it means”?
3. How do you know that one of the fire spurts is about to erupt?
4. How does Inigo convince the Man in Black to allow him to help him up the Cliffs of Insanity? Also, what is the first question Inigo asks the MiB once he’s atop the CoI?
5. A comparison between the book and the movie: What are the shrieking eels in the book?
6. Why does Westley assert that Buttercup didn’t marry Humperdinck?

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**Author:** ![DaveX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/96bed5/32.png) [@DaveX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveX)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2001, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/62 "2001-09-05T19:57:04Z")

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Personally I didn’t see any irony in Humperdinck sniffing the powder and then declaring it Iocaine… I always assumed that the _lack_ of a scent in the vial and a dead body lying there were what clued him into the powders origin.

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**Author:** ![Sunshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Sunshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunshine)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2001, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/63 "2001-09-05T20:26:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ACappellaCat \*  
> 2. What is the word that Vizzini keeps using that “does not mean what you think it means”?

**Incon-TH-eivable!**

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> 1. How do you know that one of the fire spurts is about to erupt?

**There’s a popping noise just before.**

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> 1. How does Inigo convince the Man in Black to allow him to help him up the Cliffs of Insanity?

**Let’s see…first he gives his word as a Spainard, which is no good because Westley has known too many Spainards. Then he swears on the soul of his father, "dead these 16 years"**

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> 1. Why does Westley assert that Buttercup didn’t marry Humperdinck?

**"You didn’t say it, you didn’t do it."**

Oh, and for my earlier question about the Count’s purpose with The Machine is that he was writing a book. That’s why he tells Westley to be honest, because it’s for “posterity.”

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**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2001, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/64 "2001-09-05T20:45:12Z")

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The second half of **ACappellaCat** ’s question #4:

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> Also, what is the first question Inigo asks the MiB once he’s atop the CoI?

Inigo: “I don’t mean to pry, but you wouldn’t happen to have six fingers on your right hand?”

Westley: “Do you always begin your conversations this way?”

And for his first question:

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> 1. How many of the actors (in primary roles) are no longer living?

Well, I know for sure that Andre the Giant died in 1993.

Peter Cook, who played “The Impressive Clergyman” died in 1995.

Willoughby Gray, the chap who played the King, died in 1993.

The actress who played the Queen is also dead, but I’m not sure if you would count her role as one of the primary ones.

So, three if you don’t count the Queen, four if you do.

Source for the dates: [Cast List for “The Princess Bride” on the IMDb](http://us.imdb.com/Credits?0093779)

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**Author:** ![SandWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8491ac/32.png) [@SandWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SandWriter)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2001, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/65 "2001-09-06T15:52:59Z")

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from a previous post…

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Originally posted by Mahaloth

1. How does Humperdink know what kind of poison Westley used? Why is this ironic?

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He sniffs it, then says, “Iocaine powder. I’d bet my life on it!”

Ironic, perhaps, because Westley described it as “tasteless, odorless, and one of the more deadly poisons known to man.”

…Excuse me, but how is that ironic? Irony, to me, would be that Wesley did, in fact, bet his life on it.

Here’s my questions,

1. What does Count Rugen think everything is?
2. What is the video game that the kid is playing in the beginning?
3. What are the things that Vicinni is referring to on the ship when he tells the crew to, “Move the thing, And the other thing, Move it!”
4. Bonus Question, What is the psychological Phenomena that makes you forget the names of things when you get excited?  
Here’s a non trivia question, was the Albino one of the Abbot and Costello people? His cough sounds like the cough of Abbot. I tried watching the credits, but didn’t catch it.

p.s. This is one of my favorite movies, I love it. Anyone what a peanut? Are there flaming replies ahead? If there are, I’m filled with dread.

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**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2001, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/66 "2001-09-06T18:07:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SandWriter \*  
> **1. What does Count Rugen think everything is?**

A trap. “Which is why I’m still alive.”

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> \*\*2. What is the video game that the kid is playing in the beginning?

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I know it’s a baseball video game, but darned if I can remember the specific title.

[sub]My 500th post. Nobody cares but me.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![DAVEW0071](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19b73/32.png) [@DAVEW0071](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DAVEW0071)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2001, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/67 "2001-09-06T20:10:59Z")

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Another interesting thing about the kiss “that leaves them all behind” is that, in the movie, it’s the final kiss. But in the book, IIRC, it’s the kiss they share when Westley leaves to seek his fortune (or else when they’re reunited, but I think the former).

Of course, the movie ending is upbeat, as it should be, but even though the book’s ending wouldn’t suit a movie at all, I love it! More peril and adventure! What will happen next? Stay tuned!

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**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2001, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/68 "2001-09-06T20:17:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SandWriter \*  
> \*\*  
> Originally posted by Mahaloth
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> 1. How does Humperdink know what kind of poison Westley used? Why is this ironic?
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> He sniffs it, then says, “Iocaine powder. I’d bet my life on it!”
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> Ironic, perhaps, because Westley described it as “tasteless, odorless, and one of the more deadly poisons known to man.”
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> …Excuse me, but how is that ironic? Irony, to me, would be that Wesley did, in fact, bet his life on it.\*\*

Hey, I was only answering the question as it was asked! I never said it _was_ ironic! Of course, Westley didn’t bet his life on it, either, since he spent a couple years building up an immunity to it…

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**Author:** ![DaveX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/96bed5/32.png) [@DaveX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveX)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2001, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/69 "2001-09-06T20:29:30Z")

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The video game in question would be the oringinal Atari 800 version of Hardball. When I was 14, I played a whole season, 162 games, as the blue team… and kept stats for all my players.

Yeah, I was a geek.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2001, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/70 "2001-09-07T06:08:19Z")

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**grimpixie** wrote:

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Originally posted by Paul The Younger  
Here’s my trivia questions…

1. When do the Screaming Eels get the loudest?

2. How did Buttercup discover Humperdinck was lying about sending the letter to Westley?

3. How many years had Inigo searched for the six-fingered man?

## Paul

1. Just before they attack
2. When he said all the ships in his armarda would see them off on their honeymoon - “All but your four fastest?”
3. _Twenty years_ - Tough question, but he tells Miracle Max!!

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and then, later, **Sunshine** , answering **ACapellaCat’s** challenge posted:

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> ## quote:
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> 1. How does Inigo convince the Man in Black to allow him to help him up the Cliffs of Insanity?
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> Let’s see…first he gives his word as a Spainard, which is no good because Westley has known too many Spainards. Then he swears on the soul of his father, _“dead these 16 years”_

Did anyone else notice that Inigo started searching for the six-fingered man four years before the guy gave him any reason to want revenge?

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2001, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/71 "2001-09-07T10:09:35Z")

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I got my DVD today. Good film. I can probably think of some wonderful questions about the film, but all I can think of now is this:

Two songs from outside sources are credited at the end of the film. One is Willy DeVille’s _Storybook Love_. What’s the other, and where does it appear?

And here’s an answer to a question I don’t think has been answered yet: in the book, the screaming eels are sharks. They changed it for budget reasons.

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**Author:** ![Sunshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Sunshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunshine)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2001, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/72 "2001-09-07T14:45:11Z")

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I concede. For some reason I thought it was 16 years, but in my head I can hear Inigo say, “dead these twenty years” or possibly, “dead these many years” so I think I might be making up the 16.

Somebody who doesn’t have to work today go watch the DVD and tell us what he says there at the top of the cliffs!

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**Author:** ![Peregrine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a6a055/32.png) [@Peregrine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peregrine)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2001, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/73 "2001-09-07T15:21:09Z")

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At the top of the Cliffs of Insanity, “I swear on the soul of my father, Domingo Montoya, you will reach the top alive.”  
To Miracle Max, “I need him to help avenge my father, murdered these twenty years.”

The other song credited is “Take Me Out to the Ballgame,” which is heard in the kid’s video game.

Fezzik makes five rhymes as a diversion on the way to the Cliffs of Insanity. What are they?

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2001, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/74 "2001-09-07T20:02:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Peregrine \*  
> \*\*Fezzik makes five rhymes as a diversion on the way to the Cliffs of Insanity. What are they? \*\*

Inigo:“That Vizzini, he can fuss.”  
Fezzik:“Fuss…fuss…I think he likes to scream at us.”  
Inigo:“Probably he means no haaaaarm.”  
Fezzik:“He’s really very short on chaaaarm.”  
Inigo:“You have a great gift for rhyme.”  
Fezzik:“Yes, most of the time.”  
Inigo:“Fezzik, are there rocks ahead?”  
Fezzik:“If there are, we’ll all be dead.”  
Vizzini:“Stop those rhymes, I mean it!”  
Fezzik:“Anybody want a peanut?”  
(Vizzini screams)  
_typed from memory_

And I can confirm, after just having watched the scene on my DVD, that Inigo tells the man in black that his father has been dead for twenty years, just like he tells Miracle Max.

Here’s a good question: In what other film does Inigo’s sword appear?

That’s all for now. Have fun storming the castle, and remember that true love is the greatest thing in the world, except for cough drops, or maybe a nice MLT-mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich-when the mutton is nice and lean and the tomato is ripe. They’re so perky. I love that.

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**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2001, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/75 "2001-09-07T22:00:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by mobo85 \*  
> **Here’s a good question: In what other film does Inigo’s sword appear?**

Well, according to Ye Olde IMDb, _The Crow_. I’m going to have to watch _The Crow_ now (well, not _right_ now…), just to be sure.

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**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/76 "2001-09-14T08:07:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SandWriter \*  
> **Here’s a non trivia question, was the Albino one of the Abbot and Costello people? His cough sounds like the cough of Abbot. I tried watching the credits, but didn’t catch it.**

The Albino is played by Mel Smith who was one of the cast members of _Not the Nine o’Clock News_ (most famous for launching the career of Rowan Atkinson) and half of the comedy duo _Alas Smith and Jones_.

[For more information](http://www.geocities.com/jsmurfette/albino.html)

Gp

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**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/77 "2001-09-14T17:27:59Z")

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I watched the Special Edition of the DVD last night. So sue me, I needed the distraction. It was the first time I laughed all week.

And I found another trivia question.

What is Count Rugen’s first name? As far as I can tell, it is uttered only once in the entire movie, and the ending credits do not reveal it. The [IMDb Cast List](http://us.imdb.com/Credits?0093779) don’t show it either.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/78 "2001-09-14T20:23:28Z")

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I was thinking about using that question…Count Rugen’s first name is Tyrone, I think.

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**Author:** ![sjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e5b9ba/32.png) [@sjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sjc)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/79 "2001-09-14T20:36:19Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Atreyu \*  
> \*\*I watched the Special Edition of the DVD last night. So sue me, I needed the distraction. It was the first time I laughed all week.
> 
> And I found another trivia question.
> 
> What is Count Rugen’s first name? As far as I can tell, it is uttered only once in the entire movie, and the ending credits do not reveal it. The [IMDb Cast List](http://us.imdb.com/Credits?0093779) don’t show it either. \*\*

**Tyrone**. As Humperdinck says when begging off visiting the Pit of Dispair.

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> _Originally posted by SandWriter:_
> 
> 1. What does Count Rugen think everything is?

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> _originally posted by Atreyu:_  
> A trap. “Which is why I’m still alive.”

This is what Humperdinck says everything is. Count Rugen, I believe, think life is _ **pain** _. Westley says this at the top of the ravine, but I believe this is also what Rugen thinks life is.

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**Author:** ![sjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e5b9ba/32.png) [@sjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sjc)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/80 "2001-09-14T20:44:14Z")

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**Darn, darn, DARN!** You beat me to it! I should have typed faster. Oh well, Tyrone wasn’t too hard to come up with anyway.

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