# My name is \_\_\_\_\_ Montoya

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 2, 2001, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350 "2001-09-02T00:33:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![SandWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8491ac/32.png) [@SandWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SandWriter)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2001, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/81 "2001-09-17T17:39:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by sjc \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Atreyu \*  
> > \*\*I watched the Special Edition of the DVD last night. So sue me, I needed the distraction. It was the first time I laughed all week.
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> > And I found another trivia question.
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> > What is Count Rugen’s first name? As far as I can tell, it is uttered only once in the entire movie, and the ending credits do not reveal it. The [IMDb Cast List](http://us.imdb.com/Credits?0093779) don’t show it either. \*\*
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> **Tyrone**. As Humperdinck says when begging off visiting the Pit of Dispair.
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> > _Originally posted by SandWriter:_
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> > 1. What does Count Rugen think everything is?
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> > _originally posted by Atreyu:_  
> > A trap. “Which is why I’m still alive.”
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> This is what Humperdinck says everything is. Count Rugen, I believe, think life is _ **pain** _. Westley says this at the top of the ravine, but I believe this is also what Rugen thinks life is. \*\*

Humperdinck, “You think everything is a trap, which is why I’m still alive.” The ‘You’ is Count Rugen. So technically ‘a trap’ is what Humperdinck thinks Rugen thinks everything is, but that is the answer I was looking for.

p.s. Wesley believes life is pain. (to the princess)“Life is pain, anyone who tells you anything else is selling you something.” Rugen is studying pain.

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**Author:** ![sjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e5b9ba/32.png) [@sjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sjc)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2001, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/82 "2001-09-17T20:11:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SandWriter \*  
> Humperdinck, “You think everything is a trap, which is why I’m still alive.” The ‘You’ is Count Rugen. So technically ‘a trap’ is what Humperdinck thinks Rugen thinks everything is, but that is the answer I was looking for.  
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I believe you have misquoted Humperdinck. Rugen says: “What if it is a trap?” and Humperdinck replies, **I** think everything is a trap, which is why I am still alive." It is out of character for Humperdinck to say “ **you** think everything is a trap”. I’ll have to check the movie and read the book to be sure.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/83 "2001-09-18T04:13:36Z")

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OK, you’ve made me drag out my copy of the screenplay. **mobo85** , you missed one of the rhymes. At the foot of the Cliffs:  
\<Inigo\> Everyone’s steady.  
\<Fezzik\> Well I’m certainly ready.  
(scene 44)

For the “everything’s a trap” line:  
\<Humperdink\> …We may need all our warriors to escape whatever trap is ahead.  
\<Rugen\> You think this is a trap?  
\<Humperdink\> I always think everything is a trap. Which is why I’m still alive…  
(scene 128)

And if nobody mentioned it before, the fencing styles mentioned are “Bonetti’s Attack”, “Capo Ferro”, “Thibault”, and “Agrippa” (scene 80), plus (after Inigo switches hands) “Morozzo” (scene 83), “Fabris” (84), and “Alfieri” (85)

Now, admittedly, this is all from the screenplay, not the movie itself, and I’ve noticed several minor details changed between the 'play and the movie… But I have nor TV nor VCR, so this’ll have to do.

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**Author:** ![Oicu812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f475e1/32.png) [@Oicu812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oicu812)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/84 "2001-09-18T20:03:52Z")

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It is most definitely a rapier, Spanish style with swept quillions. Most likely a “Toledo Salamanca” or copy thereof.

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So Perky - I just LOVE that.

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**Author:** ![SandWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8491ac/32.png) [@SandWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SandWriter)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2001, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-name-is-_____-montoya/79350/85 "2001-09-24T18:37:38Z")

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Oh the SHAME! The Agony. I WAS WRONG! (save this post as a historical event!)

I watched the DVD movie this weekend, and was dumbfounded to find out that Humperdink does in fact say…

“I think everything is a trap, which is why I’m still alive.”

So before, when I thought he said to Count Rugen, “You think everything is a trap, which is why I’m still alive,” I stated the answer to the question, “What does Count Rugen think everything is?,(WDCRTEI)” as “a trap” was wrong. Count Rugen is consumed with the study of pain, 20 years to build the machine, and 20 years to study it’s effects.

So it really changed the movie for me and made me hate Humperdink even more. Before, when I thought he said “…you…”, I thought he was paying a compliment to his close friend and trusted companion. In reality he said “…I…” which only furthers his self-centered megalomania. So instead of being a bad guy that has close friends whom he trusts, he doesn’t trust anybody.

In my defense, he does mumble when he says that line and if you don’t listen closely it does sound like he said ‘…you…’. Also, I wasn’t the only one who thought he said you.

So the technically correct answer to the question, WDCRTEI, is ‘pain,’ while also acceptable, though wrong, is ‘a trap.’

Sorry for the confusion, please don’t flame me to much, I already feel bad, stupid, and ignorant.

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