# My Nephew Was Scalped

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2009, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439 "2009-01-01T04:23:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/21 "2009-01-01T13:19:33Z")

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**{{{Zoe and family}}}**

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**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/22 "2009-01-01T13:48:49Z")

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I will keep your family and that of the young man lost in my thoughts and prayers, **Zoe**. I can’t imagine what pain you’re all going through, especially your niece. This is one of those situations that some people never quite manage to reconcile their emotions over. I hope that there are counselors available to all concerned who can help them through their grief.

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/23 "2009-01-01T13:56:37Z")

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When I opened the thread I hoped it was about sports tickets. Damn, Zoe, I’m sorry. I never drove drunk, but I can remember feeling invulnerable at that age.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/24 "2009-01-01T14:06:29Z")

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How horrible.

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**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/25 "2009-01-01T14:10:52Z")

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I’m so sorry. We all do terribly foolish, stupid, dangerous things. I’m sorry that this act had those consequences.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/26 "2009-01-01T15:26:04Z")

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Oh jeeeez, **Zoe…** I’m so sorry. This is terrible news. I wish all of you strength.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/27 "2009-01-01T15:33:09Z")

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This is beyond tragic, and there are no words. I hope you find healing and peace, and that this horrible event brings your family closer together.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/28 "2009-01-01T15:37:34Z")

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I’m so sorry for your family, **Zoe**. I hope your nephew gets out of this both physically and emotionally intact.

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**Author:** ![dangermom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@dangermom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dangermom)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/29 "2009-01-01T15:57:32Z")

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Oh, Zoe, that’s so tragic and awful I can’t even think of anything to say. I’m so terribly sorry.

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**Author:** ![dgrdfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@dgrdfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dgrdfd)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/30 "2009-01-01T16:09:10Z")

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How is he doing?

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**Author:** ![Wednesday\_Evening](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b2d939/32.png) [@Wednesday\_Evening](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wednesday_Evening)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/31 "2009-01-01T16:22:25Z")

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What a horrible and tragic incident. I’m so very sorry.

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**Author:** ![freekalette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@freekalette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freekalette)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/32 "2009-01-01T16:32:48Z")

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Sending warm hugs, best wishes, and lots of prayers to you and your whole family **Zoe**.

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**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/33 "2009-01-01T16:54:36Z")

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I’m very sorry to hear this Zoe. As others have said, we all do foolish and dangerous things in our youth.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/34 "2009-01-01T17:13:09Z")

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> [@Seven](#):
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> I hate to be a threadshitter, but I hope he survives and spends a fair amount of his life in jail. What a bastard.
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> I’m sorry, but I have little respect for those that do not take the dangers of driving seriously.
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> \*STILL recovering from a car crash over two years ago caused by a jerk not paying attention.

I agree. I must say, I don’t understand why there’s so much concern and sympathy for the nephew in this scenario. How many people would feel sorry for a drunk driver who killed one of their own loved ones or put them in the hospital? I hope he goes to prison. It wasn’t a “tragic accident,” it was a crime that killed somebody.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/35 "2009-01-01T17:14:44Z")

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My thanks to all of you who are posting. I am doing okay with this so far, but your concern means the world to me.

**Seven** is not threadshitting at all. When someone is found to be driving while intoxicated – whether there has been an accident or not – her or his car should be impounded for a very long time and the driver’s license taken away. There should be some jail time too _then_.

Denmark has a very tough intoxicated driver law that is similar to that. I can’t remember all of the details. I went to a large New Year’s Eve party there once and **no one** who had been drinking drove a car away. Cabs were arranged ahead of time, or there were designated drivers who really didn’t drink, or people walked to nearby friends’ homes.

**Seven** , I hope that you are able to find relief from your injuries. I am with you. The first year that I taught school, I had to stand at the wall of windows of my classroom to watch the funeral procession of one of our Seniors as it passed. He had been killed by a drunk driver.

**Diogenes** agrees with us. And I think that many here feel the same.

**SeaDragon** , I know that you know how my family is feeling. I’m sorry for your losses too.

**tumbledown** , you are exactly right. It is my niece that I am thinking of most right now. She doesn’t know what to do with all of her conflicting emotions.

**All** of the posts here are valuable to me. I am grateful for your friendships and offers of support.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/36 "2009-01-01T17:15:32Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> As for the boy who is dead, he is where he was intended to be.

He was intended to be dead in a car wreck? I know you mean well, but you might want to rethink how you phrase things.

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**Author:** ![Zulema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/db5fbb/32.png) [@Zulema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zulema)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/37 "2009-01-01T17:28:20Z")

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Yes, the nephew should not have been driving but did his friend know he’d been drinking? If you get in the car with a drunk driver you are taking a stupid risk and are also at fault for whatever happens to you.

So, yes the fault is with the driver but it is also with any person who chooses to get in the car with a driver who has been drinking. I see it as equal blame. I hope your niece can see this and it can help her through this ordeal.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/38 "2009-01-01T17:31:42Z")

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What a shitstorm of terror. I’m really sorry to hear it, Zoe. I never drove “drunk” but like the typical young male idiot I drove buzzed a few times when I was a teenager, and I want to punch myself in the face everytime I think about it. It’s such a needless, pointless risk to take. If I’ve had enough to feel the effects of alcohol whatsoever - or 3 drinks, whichever comes first - I’m not driving. That’s been my policy for years now and it’s served me well. You might get home safe 99 times, but the 100th time, when this happens, it ruins a lot more than just one life. Those 100 cab fares, or long walks, or nights on couches would seem less than paltry.

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**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/39 "2009-01-01T17:53:56Z")

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**Zoe** , I _am_ sorry to read this and my heart goes out to you and your family. It’s your niece I feel particularly sorry for. To have her fiance be killed only a few days after he proposed must be heart-breaking. To have him be killed by her brother must be even worse. I can’t imagine how much pain and anger she must be going through. My prayers are with you. {{{{{ **Zoe** and family}}}}}

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**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-nephew-was-scalped/479439/40 "2009-01-01T18:02:55Z")

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I’m sorry you and your family have to deal with this pain, Zoe. I wish your nephew hadn’t driven while he was drunk.

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