# My new standard for biggest asshole hereabouts: Carol Stream **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 11, 2008, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550 "2008-08-11T01:26:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/101 "2008-08-11T23:49:39Z")
**Shodan** also isn’t really a dick in non-political threads. I’ve never seen **Carol Stream** NOT act like a cunt muffin. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/102 "2008-08-12T00:06:02Z")
I just have to say that I would pronounce Racheal as “Ray/cheel” and not “Ray/chell”. It looks wrong and sounds more wrong. Ugh. Carole is a variation of Carol or vice versa, btw. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/103 "2008-08-12T00:12:06Z")
[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold] I’d agree with you on **Shodan** , but not **Clothahump**. **Shodan’s** views may be unpopular, but he’s willing to explain them, and mock people amusingly while doing so, as well as not being an idiot. \*\*Clothahump’\*\*s as bad as **Carol Stream** , though he forgoes the nastiness for drivebys. [/QUOTE] Look for **Clothahump** ’s posts in the forums like Cafe, MPSIMS and IMHO, not only is he not a near troll like Carol, he is even (IMHO) a nice guy who happens to be pretty far to the right of me. I have seen no signs that Carol is not nasty 90% or the time or better. I don’t recall \*\*Clothahump \*\* ever derailing a thread like Carol has done plenty of times (thus my trolling accusation). I do recall him make a few posts, especially in the pit that I 100% disagreed with, but I could actually say the same thing about our socialist friend **BrainGlutton** who I first replied to. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/104 "2008-08-12T02:19:17Z")
[QUOTE=Sleeps With Butterflies] She’s a woman. [From this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9030450&postcount=182) I remember because I hadn’t been here long, and I was shocked at the foolishness she spouted. I remember thinking “Huh, there IS someone for everyone out there. Even hateful bitches.” [/QUOTE] Ah, thank you. My search-fu was weak that day. And anybody looking for more evidence that Carol Stream is just a nasty nasty person should take a look at that thread. Sheesh! p.s. In that thread, she also elicited some uncharacteristic snark from **Polycarp** : > [@](#): > > Well, this explains some of the arguments you’ve had with people in the past. You cannot read plain English prose. I do feel sorry for you. There are good remedial courses for correcting this deficiency. Hee! ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/105 "2008-08-12T02:40:50Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] Look for **Clothahump** ’s posts in the forums like Cafe, MPSIMS and IMHO, not only is he not a near troll like Carol, he is even (IMHO) a nice guy who happens to be pretty far to the right of me. I have seen no signs that Carol is not nasty 90% or the time or better. I don’t recall **Clothahump \*\* ever derailing a thread like Carol has done plenty of times (thus my trolling accusation). I do recall him make a few posts, especially in the pit that I 100% disagreed with, but I could actually say the same thing about our socialist friend BrainGlutton who I first replied to. [/QUOTE] Clothahump does have normal moments - he’s interesting whenever martial arts come up, for instance (I think that’s him?). But put him in a thread with politics or religion and it’ll be a one sentence “This is stupid, anyone who disagrees with me is stupid”. Even** Carol \*\* has points to make, though they may be done assholishly. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/106 "2008-08-12T03:00:09Z")
[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold] **Clothahump** does have normal moments - he’s interesting whenever martial arts come up, for instance (I think that’s him?). But put him in a thread with politics or religion and it’ll be a one sentence “This is stupid, anyone who disagrees with me is stupid”. Even\*\* Carol \*\* has points to make, though they may be done assholishly. [/QUOTE] I have noted that his opinions on movies are usually sound. Not dumbed down and not too intellectual. His comments on books have been useful and as you mentioned he is indeed good at providing facts about martial arts. His politics are not mine and I sit somewhat to the right on the dope, though I think I have drifted to the left for the US. On religion, I tend to agree with him, but I am not adamant about or as vociferous, so those don’t bother me much. In fact I always find it humorous that his fairly right wing political beliefs puts him in more often than not with the Theocrats that he despises so much. ---
**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/107 "2008-08-12T03:34:23Z")
It’s all a matter of luck. Mostly, I’ve encountered **Clothahump** being funny and smart and generous with his time and knowledge, and mostly I’ve encountered – let us just say, another poster – as a self-centered moron who dispenses old, tired insults before disappearing through the same trap door he first used seven years ago. The latter always runs and hides, so let him. **Carol Stream** is a different story altogether. I _still_ don’t believe the username belongs to a woman, because I’ve never met a female under the age of a hundred and fifty-nine that harbors the vile attitudes s/he espouses, but that’s the problem with this kind of judgment – the only way to be normal is to go along with all kinds of foolishness, and who’s to say that the pressures on **Carol Stream** are any worse than those on any high-school freshman? It’s enough to know that there’s no hint of strength of character there: that there will never be an opinion divergent from the bigoted substream that thinks school integration is still a controversial issue. ---
**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/108 "2008-08-12T03:52:34Z")
[QUOTE=Alice The Goon] I didn’t belittle her- I merely asked her if we had a misspelling. I live in a city where half the citizens are Hispanic, and Jaime is the Hispanic version of James. It’s not an actual variation of Jamie. I’ll be looking for you in the threads regarding stupid names people give their kids, defending them, then. See you there! [/QUOTE] Yes, I knew that Jaime is a Hispanic name. A fellow student I worked with at Uni was a Venezuelan named Jaime. I’ve already been in those threads, with a point of view of “who gives a shit”. Here’s three posts, from a couple of ‘names’ threads in the last six months: [1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9779286&postcount=22) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9782458&postcount=68) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9920208&postcount=20) I don’t think I have a problem with your judging the name to be spelled in a stupid manner; you’re entitled to your opinion. I _do_ get irritated at folks spreading unpleasantness unnecessarily. I’m still not sure whether you were making fun of the woman or not. I guess it doesn’t matter anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/109 "2008-08-12T14:07:53Z")
[QUOTE=Kat] I’m just surprised that **Carol Stream** has never encountered the spelling “Racheal” before. [/QUOTE] Even more surprising is Carol Stream’s notion that a spell checker can somehow tell you how a person’s proper name should be spelled. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/110 "2008-08-12T14:54:37Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] **Shodan** also isn’t really a dick in non-political threads. I’ve never seen **Carol Stream** NOT act like a cunt muffin. [/QUOTE] Do they sell those at Starbucks? They sound rather uncommon and expensive. Blll ---
**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/111 "2008-08-12T15:07:13Z")
Things can be rare, yet common and cheap, **billfish678**. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/112 "2008-08-12T16:48:03Z")
[QUOTE=eleanorigby] I just have to say that I would pronounce Racheal as “Ray/cheel” and not “Ray/chell”. It looks wrong and sounds more wrong. Ugh.\ [/QUOTE] That’s my problem with so-called unusual spellings of names - don’t expect the rest of the world to change the English language for your “creative” naming. Not to mention that it would also be valid to pronounce Racheal as Ray-Keel (with the CH making a K, as in trachea). Or even Ray-Kee-All. Or Rah-kee-all. No, I’m no fan of names that try to force a pronunciation. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/113 "2008-08-12T16:48:42Z")
> [@](#): > > Do they sell those at Starbucks? They sound rather uncommon and expensive. > > Blll They taste like risotto. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/114 "2008-08-12T17:02:04Z")
[QUOTE=featherlou] That’s my problem with so-called unusual spellings of names - don’t expect the rest of the world to change the English language for your “creative” naming. Not to mention that it would also be valid to pronounce Racheal as Ray-Keel (with the CH making a K, as in trachea). Or even Ray-Kee-All. Or Rah-kee-all. No, I’m no fan of names that try to force a pronunciation. [/QUOTE] My daughter’s name is a Celtic spelling (I’m so, so sorry!) and it’s all her father’s fault - he was teaching a course in Irish history and enamored of all things Celtic at the time. Still, it doesn’t actually break the laws of English like Racheal does. It just has to be pointed out to people: “Caileigh. C-A- **I** -L-E-I-G-H…Look, how do you spell “Gail”? And how do you spell “Leigh”? Knock off the G, stick a C on the front and you’re good to go.” But I really don’t blame people who get it wrong. It is unusual, and I knew that when I filled out the birth certificate form. I suppose Kaylee would be easier for the nurses at the pediatrician’s office, but I just think it looks…cheap. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/115 "2008-08-12T17:04:49Z")
[QUOTE=Alice The Goon] They taste like risotto. [/QUOTE] In comedy, this is what we refer to as a “callback”! ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/116 "2008-08-12T17:09:58Z")
Kaylee does look cheap–perhaps too phonetical. Or maybe it reminds me of Kaybee toys. My first thought is that Caileigh is pronounced “Calley” (Cal/lee), but other than that, there’s no big issue there, IMO. I could more easily read Racheal as Rak-ee-al than Rachel. Poor kid. One of my sister’s names was Leigh. She not only got called “lay” a lot, she also got a notice that she had to register for the draft! :eek: And just for the record, my name is Eleanor. No one spells it right. Few pronounce it correctly (3 syllables, there’s an OR at the end, not and ER), so I know something of the pain of uncommon names. At least my parents didn’t get jiggy with it and do Ellynore or Aelinor etc. Elenore is the French version, IMS. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/117 "2008-08-12T17:10:04Z")
[QUOTE=Alice The Goon] They taste like risotto. [/QUOTE] They do? The whole thing? Or just the tops or the stumps? If its just the stumps we may need to reconsider the plan to give the homeless the stumps…of course I am not a big fan of pasta, so skin off my back either way 🙂 Blll ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/118 "2008-08-12T17:17:14Z")
[QUOTE=eleanorigby] Kaylee does look cheap–perhaps too phonetical. Or maybe it reminds me of Kaybee toys. My first thought is that Caileigh is pronounced “Calley” (Cal/lee), but other than that, there’s no big issue there, IMO. [/QUOTE] When it’s printed, “Calley” is the most common pronunciation I hear. I think the “i” looks too much like an “l” in most fonts, so people think it’s Calleigh. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/119 "2008-08-12T17:20:23Z")
[QUOTE=WhyNot] When it’s printed, “Calley” is the most common pronunciation I hear. I think the “i” looks too much like an “l” in most fonts, so people think it’s Calleigh. [/QUOTE] Left to my own devices, I’d have pronounced it “Kylee”. Pretty name, either way. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550/120 "2008-08-12T17:21:01Z")
I can live with “Racheal”. There should however be some form of punishment for naming your kid “Chasity”. Maybe the stocks. I would feel bad for the paragraph and spelling-challenged person who started the other thread, but my sympathy drained out when she used the phrase “ya no”. Ya no? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-new-standard-for-biggest-asshole-hereabouts-carol-stream/459550.md?page=7)