My newest pets (rescued from abusers)

Here is a list of things rats cannot eat. A lot of people print that out (at least at first) and stick it on the fridge or near the cage so they can remember.

I just want to say how wonderful it is you took them in, also. They are really pretty easy to care for, and very rewarding pets. I’ve had a lot of small animals, and in my opinion, rats are BY FAR the most fun to keep. Rats are the only small pets I’ve ever had that really like people. They want to be held, and played with and talked to. In that way they are very much like dogs, but they are curious like cats. Really just lovely animals. I was surprised.

Give them a few days to warm up to you and you’ll see. Mine climb all over the door openings when I’m in the room, begging to be let out. They know their names (which they learned only by my using them when I held them; no special training necessary). It will take a few days, or even a couple weeks for them to come around though, I’d imagine, especially considering their prior circumstances.

Again, if you have any questions or problems, please feel free to ask me. It really warms my heart knowing that you did this for them.

My brother and I had two pet rats when we were kids, and I can confirm that they can learn their names. Although I wouldn’t recommend it now, we used to let them come out in the yard with us, and they would bound around in the grass and try to follow us. We also let them loose in the house pretty often, and when it was time for them to go back in their cages, we just had to call their names and they’d come to us (and of course receive a treat of some kind).

While I wouldn’t consider them as good of pets as cats or dogs, they were pretty fun.

Ok, I got a question.

Brain is responding fine to me now, though he still won’t eat food if I’m holding it. Pinky however, is quite hostile towards me. He won’t take food either, and won’t eat any food I leave in the cage until Brain eats first. If I reach into the cage, Pinky runs to a corner and hisses until I remove my hand.

If I try to pet him, or get my hand near him, he’ll snap at me. What can I do to stop this? Do I go ahead and try to pet him anyhow, leave him alone, what? Oh, and bathing. Can I bathe these guys? They really stink from being on soiled bedding for so long.

Ok, opinions vary to an extent on what to do with an aggressive rat. A couple tricks you can try are putting something you’ve worn into the cage so they will get familiar with your smell, and using baby food to lure them out. Rats love baby food, or baby cereal made with soy milk. They can’t run off with it either. Also, rats are very picky eaters. They try a small portion of something to see if it makes them sick, and only later will they come back and eat more if they decide its ok. So you may just be dealing with that wariness. I would try that, along with patience, and see if he doesn’t calm down. They aren’t generally aggressive animals AT ALL, so I wouldn’t be surprised if that helped.

If it doesn’t, I would force matters. Some people would disagree with me, but I’ve had good luck with it. If you think he really will bite, wear gloves. Also a long sleeved shirt with another shirt over it (like a teeshirt). Get him out of the cage without hurting him (no tail grabbing!) This may take awhile; get rid of anything he can hide in and just get him out. If he freaks, hold him firmly until he chills out a bit. I find having a blanket or towel to wrap them in helps. Once he stops freaking out, put him in between your shirt layers. This allows him to smell you and feel you, but still hide. You might get peed on. Keep him out for at least 30 minutes, but I would aim for 45. rats cannot sustain the fear response longer than that, and he will calm down. Talk to him, say his name, offer him treats (he may not take them). Just touch him and make him aware of your presence for the full time. And do this daily. I would be shocked if you didn’t see massive changes in a couple weeks; usually just a few days is amazing.

See, rats have a complex society, with higher and lower levels. To him, you are a big rat. You need to teach him you are THE big rat, and the benevolent alpha of his rat group. Rats hold each other down all the time for dominance; essentially that’s what you are doing. You are showing him that you are the boss, but that you won’t hurt him. He understands that; its the way they communicate. That’s why I’m not a fan of letting them decide when to be held (at least not with antisocial rats); it sounds nicer, but you need to establish your rat hierarchy! Once he “gets” that you aren’t going to hurt him, but that you’re the boss, he’ll probably act a lot better. They are a lot like dogs in that way.

There is this though- if he’s been alone and not handled for most of his life, and he’s older, he may never come around and be cuddly. It just may be too late. I feel fairly confident you can get him to a point where he isn’t aggressive, but he may never be a “people rat”. So, if you try the steps above and he still just hates being held, I’d let it go.

Oh, also, you can absolutely bathe them. I just bathed mine an hour or so ago. If they are greasy (males often are) try a drop of dishwashing detergent to break that up, and then bathe them with extremely gentle soap (baby soap), or anything for cats.

They will probably HATE it though, fair warning. Even my sweet girls claw to get out; gloves may be needed especially for Pinky. And there are few things slipperier that a soapy rat; close off the room, and maybe put a (deep!) tub on the floor (they can jump HIGH). Expect they’ll get away at some point. But, just get them wet, soap them up (avoid the face and ears), and rinse them off. Drying isn’t necessary unless your house is quite cold.

Also, what are you feeding them?

So, basically like bathing a cat then? That’s doable. What about citrus scented flea shampoo made for cats, would that be alright? If not I’ll have to go get something else to bathe them in, as that’s all I have at the moment aside from my dish soap and body wash.

As for food it’s this stuff, plus fresh lettuce, beans, and raisins.

edit My youngest sister is in there with the rats now, and Pinky is letting her hold him, so I’m going to let her handle him a few days to get him used to being held.

They’re very cute. I have to stop reading thread about pets because I always want one. Hmm, rats or hamsters might be OK … :slight_smile:

How is Taffy the cat getting along with them?#
Edited to add

And it was VERY good of you to adopt the poor things. Lucky ratlets.

He’s quite curious about them. Any time I open the laundry room door he darts in, and stares at the cage. They don’t much like him, as they start hissing at the sight of him, so I try to keep him away.

Now I miss my pet rats. My last two, Galina and Svetlana, died of old age about a year ago–Galina after surviving TWO cancer surgeries, the poor thing. My first pet rat, Clarissa, died of a pretty aggressive cancer as well, but I’m given to understand that female rats in particular are cancer-prone.

Rats and cats are a funny combination. My smarter cat would sit a respectful distance from the cage and watch the rats play, no problems there. The big dumb cat, on the other hand, would occasionally stick his nose in the cage. Until Galina got sick of it and charged him and bit his nose, then he lived in fear of rat justice.

Old?!? :eek:

:frowning:

I loved that show. And I’m not old…I think…!
Very cute rats, and good for you for saving them!

Depends on your definition of old. Animaniacs turned 17 this year.

The hell you say!

Get off my lawn.

As others have already told you, building a cage for them to munch on is not a very good idea. :smiley:

Good for you for rescuing them. I bow down to our new rodent overlords.

Like most rodents, rats have a compulsion to chew on stuff to wear down their teeth, which grow constantly. They will chew through almost anything, except metal.