# my non-objective observations **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 1, 2001, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888 "2001-07-01T23:54:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/90ced4/32.png) [@jally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jally)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2001, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/1 "2001-07-01T23:54:27Z")
OK, administrators, ya want flamin’? Ya got it! For the umpteenth time, here’s my observation about these boards, and I’m not bothering to respond. Just speaking from my bandbox. While many people may be impressed by knowledge, even though that knowledge may be used cruelly, such as for nuclear/bio/chemical warfare, or for ruthless scientific research, or for unscrupulous journalism, I’m not impressed. I’d rather deal with kind not-so-informed people, than with sophisticated icicles or razor-sharp-brained sadists. Of course, since the former can become tedious, my ideal is to interact exclusively with truly-informative empaths. (but as someone here pointed out, there’s more chance of obtaining the moon.) All too many SDMB respondents (male and linear-thinking perhaps? not sure…) have the characteristics of seeking/offering knowledge motivated by curiosity/thrill-seeking respectively, and not so much the characteristics of seeking/offering knowledge motivated by empathy. Many members of SDMB have the characteristics of admiring and promoting cruelty, while demonizing decent people, via their network of twisted thinkers, who are experts at twisting the truth, just as journalists do. For example, it would be predictably typical of them to take passages from this post and quote them back to me **OUT OF CONTEXT** in future. Judgmentalism, aggressiveness & crassness are encouraged by the administration. You’d think that at the very least, the GQ board would discourage off-topic responses. But apparently the SDMB administration flinches at the thought of not pandering to its predominant clientele. So, as I see it, there is no hope for this world. A world where crassness is admired will destroy itself. Final Note: I’m not saying there aren’t many decent members too. And that’s the only reason why I post here. Because statistically speaking, a few people out of a thousand might have a decent, informative answer to any particular question. ---
**Author:** ![schief2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@schief2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/schief2)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/2 "2001-07-02T00:08:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jally \* > **All too many SDMB respondents (male and linear-thinking perhaps? not sure…) have the characteristics of seeking/offering knowledge motivated by curiosity/thrill-seeking respectively, and not so much the characteristics of seeking/offering knowledge motivated by empathy.** So you’re saying curiousity is somehow a _bad thing_? 😕 I assume it’s this same “empathy” that caused you to offer your “knowledge” that 99% of the posters here are, in your eyes, jackasses. > [@](#): > > **Many members of SDMB have the characteristics of admiring and promoting cruelty,** Link please? > [@](#): > > \*\*while demonizing decent people, \*\*Link please? > [@](#): > > \*\*via their network of twisted thinkers, who are experts at twisting the truth, \*\*LINK PLEASE? > [@](#): > > \*\*just as journalists do. \*\*And as a journalist myself, I gotta say: cite please? > [@](#): > > \*\*Judgmentalism, aggressiveness & crassness are encouraged by the administration. \*\*Link pl…oh, fuck it. > [@](#): > > **Final Note: I’m not saying there aren’t many decent members too. And that’s the only reason why I post here. Because statistically speaking, a few people out of a thousand might have a decent, informative answer to any particular question.** Yeah, but god forbid they share it unless their motives are, like yours, pure as the driven snow. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/3 "2001-07-02T00:14:30Z")
I don’t understand what **jally** is saying. Does that mean I’m nice? ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/4 "2001-07-02T00:15:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jally \* > **I’m not bothering to respond.** Hardly any reason to respond to _you_ then, is there. Or even read it for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/5 "2001-07-02T00:24:23Z")
What, no references to us being sodomites this time? Anyways, if you don’t like the way we think, don’t read it. Expecting us all to change based on your incomprehensible rants is stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/6 "2001-07-02T00:30:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jally \* > **Judgmentalism, aggressiveness & crassness are encouraged by the administration.** Hell yes! But not for the peasants, of course. _We_’re the only ones that get to be judgmental, aggressive, and crass. Very crass. > [@](#): > > **Final Note: I’m not saying there aren’t many decent members too. And that’s the only reason why I post here. Because statistically speaking, a few people out of a thousand might have a decent, informative answer to any particular question.** So far, you’ve started two threads bitching about the boards in the past week alone. One of which, I might add, was in the wrong forum. If the good outweighs the bad for you, you’d be better of not complaining so much. After all, why invest all that effort in a Pit rant when you could have used that valuable time separating those one-in-a-million gems of GQ answers from the overwhelming flow of penned down horse crap that so obviously characterises this board? And if the good doesn’t outweigh the bad, you’re free to leave. ---
**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/7 "2001-07-02T00:34:03Z")
Aw shit, did we forget to email the OP the secret cabal password? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/8 "2001-07-02T01:34:39Z")
Well, consider the following. It’s what **jally** wrote in his profile: "I don’t consider a bio to be as important, as much as what one’s motivations are. Because one’s stars play a large hand in one’s bio, whereas motivations are representative of one’s soul. I’m a wisher for things which never come to pass, while aware that only tangible evidence will convince non-visionaries that those wishes would prove quite constructive were a magic genie to become available to me. SDMB has a plethora of linear thinkers who love to quote _the burden of proof is on you_. That’s far from the truth, since there are so many more things in the world that are true that cannot be proven than that can. But it’s the nature of this world that those with hunches and intuitives are scoffed at. Do I have to be resigned to that fact? Not necessarily. " When one starts off implying that their thoughts are more important than their actions because their actions are guided by astrology, I expect things to go downhill from there. And they have. ---
**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/9 "2001-07-02T02:29:34Z")
Geez. So am I now downgraded from being a pervert and a deviant? Yours in Sodomy Primaflora ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/10 "2001-07-02T02:36:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jally \* > **All too many SDMB respondents (male and linear-thinking perhaps? not sure…) have the characteristics of seeking/offering knowledge** Sooooo…you’re sayin’ females don’t seek or offer knowlege, and are fuzzy thinkers? Sexist ---
**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/11 "2001-07-02T02:41:30Z")
Fenris I got called a deviant pervert linear thinker yesterday so I think her insults are pretty evenly spread over the sexes. Unless Jally thinks that Primaflora is a neat name for a boy? ::shrug:: anything’s possible ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/12 "2001-07-02T02:47:33Z")
Aw, Prima, don’t take it personal. Tell you what, you can join me over here in the Smartass Corner. Wouldn’t you rather be a Smartass than a Pervert or a Deviant? We have more comfy lawn chairs, for one thing, and real homemade popcorn, none of that microwave junk thank you very much. Also Pepsi. And Fenris can come, too… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bare](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bare/32/471_2.png) [@bare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bare)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/13 "2001-07-02T03:05:48Z")
Had to run a portable line from the keg in the fridge, didn’t want to miss the action… Come on Jally, if you don’t respond it’s gonna get pretty boring in here. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/14 "2001-07-02T03:09:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jally \*OK…for the umpteenth time, here’s my…board. I’m not…speaking from my bandbox. many people may be impressed by…chemical warfare, or …unscrupulous…not-so-informed…sadists. The former can become tedious…exclusive…empaths. All too many SDMB…male …characteristics…offer…thrill-seeking respect…and not so much…cruelty. Demonizing…via…experts,…twisting the truth, just as journalists do. For example, it would be predictably typical of them to take…ass…from this post and quote… back to me **OUT OF CONTEXT** in future. > Assness…encouraged by the administration, > So, as I see it, there is no hope for this world. A world where…ass…is admired. > Final Note: I’m not saying there aren’t many decent members (read: EnderW24) too. And that’s the only reason why I…fe…e…l…u…p…a…c…a…t. You’re one sick bastard, **jally.** ---
**Author:** ![BooBoo316](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e0b2c6/32.png) [@BooBoo316](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BooBoo316)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/15 "2001-07-02T03:21:34Z")
What pisses me off about **jally** is that I answered her question [in this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=75836), at least the part I knew about, and she still called me “linear”. [sub]is that suposed to be an insult of some kind?[/sub] About that [site](http://features.homestead.com/files/index.htm.html) she keeps mentioning, I think that is what she has been working on for the last 10 months. Designing what she feels to be the “perfect message board”. That would seem to explain her evangelical drive to convince everyone to convert to her system. **jally** , am I wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/16 "2001-07-02T03:33:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jally \* > **OK, administrators, ya want flamin’? Ya got it! > For example, it would be predictably typical of them to take passages from this post and quote them back to me OUT OF CONTEXT in future.** :: wide eyed innocence :: Who? _ME_?! No, I’d NEVER do that! But in any case… In [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=75836) thread, Jaily suggests that we vote on EVERY post to see whether it was useful or not. It’d be too much of a strain on the boards to do this for everyone, but if we only do it for Jail-y. Thus, I have constructed the following chart that covers every single possible response that Jaily could generate. I urge everyone to respond to all of Jaily’s posts from the following handy voting chart. * * * The Original Post was: [1]Gibberish [2]A Flaming pile of salamander shit [3]Goes beyond the dark boundries of stupidity and comes out the other side of dumb. [4]As interesting as watching paint dry on growing grass [5]All of the Above * * * Personally, I’ll chose option 5. Fenris (reminding you to vote early, vote often. 'cause Jaily CARES about what you think of her(?) posts) ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/17 "2001-07-02T03:38:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose \* > \*\*Aw, Prima, don’t take it personal. Tell you what, you can join me over here in the Smartass Corner. Wouldn’t you rather be a Smartass than a Pervert or a Deviant? > > And Fenris can come, too… 😃 > > \*\* Kewl. I’ll take a Pepsi from the deve and sit next to the Smartass. \ I never get called names by Jaily. All she’s ever said about me was in her OP in this thread: > [@](#): > > sophisticated…razor-sharp-brained,… truly-informative empaths like Fenris How do you rate getting called a Deve? I envy you **Duckster** Fenris, always an empath, never a deve. ---
**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/18 "2001-07-02T03:52:58Z")
> [@](#): > > How do you rate getting called a Deve? Some of us just have a natural talent for perversion and deviance, **Fenris** , but in your case, an opera or play written in tribute to the OP might gain you admission to the A-list. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/19 "2001-07-02T04:29:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by reprise \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > How do you rate getting called a Deve? > > Some of us just have a natural talent for perversion and deviance, **Fenris** , but in your case, an opera or play written in tribute to the OP might gain you admission to the A-list. \*\* \ I can’t think of a full blown opera or play. All I can think of is a low, crude pop-song. Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Aaaah, what the hell: In Straight Dope Land where Cecil’s king When Jally posts, here’s what they say: When the poster’s a bore, Makes you fall down and snore That’s our Jally When she speaks of “logic” how it’s making her sick That’s our Jally She likes votes, on your posts Her board’s better, she boasts That’s our Jally ["If Derleth](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=34162) were a mod He’d be smited by God" Said our Jally She wants “[stackable](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=31756), portable, space-efficient, \ configurable oak bedroom furniture, and also, sideways opening oven doors (for cramped areas), 4-door fridges and so on” (the whole list I can’t tally) sez Jally Non-contextual quotes Must be getting her goat That’s our Jally Guess who’s dumb as a rock Though it’ll come as no shock it’s our JALLY! Good enough to get in the Deve club, **Reprise**? Fenris ---
**Author:** ![bunnymom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c4cdca/32.png) [@bunnymom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bunnymom)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888/20 "2001-07-02T05:02:50Z")
> [@](#): > > SDMB has a plethora of linear thinkers who love to quote > the burden of proof is on you. That’s far from the truth, since there > are so many more things in the world that are true that cannot be > proven than that can. Oh yeah, wiseass? Got a cite for that? Evidence maybe? Jally, about all you’ve done since you came here is bitch and moan about how crappy the place is. The SDMB will not change just to make you happy. Why don’t you just cut the drama, like it or lump it. Nobody made you come here, and no one is making you stay. Go join a frigging Yahoo club. Or make your own. You could call it " Self-Absorbed Drama Queens With Perfect Message Boards" . The Smartasses have beer, the Deves have Pepsi, but since I just formed the Bitch group, I’ve brought Diet Coke and Philidelphia Cream Cheese Snack Bars. The double chocolate ones. Welcome, friends. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-non-objective-observations/70888.md?page=2)