# My Odd Fetish: Explain, critique, psychoanalyze

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-odd-fetish-explain-critique-psychoanalyze/636740>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 4, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-odd-fetish-explain-critique-psychoanalyze/636740 "2012-10-04T20:39:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-odd-fetish-explain-critique-psychoanalyze/636740/21 "2012-10-05T19:33:05Z")

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My current fantasy is a talk radio host (NOT Rush). I really don’t want to delve too far into what that means. 😃 My sex life with my boyfriend is pretty good and he seems happy so it’s not a big deal. I’m sure he has fantasies himself.

Marquezzy, as long as your girlfriend’s happy and so are you, just enjoy yourself. I’m sure it helps to know there are others with the same fantasy, but I figure if it’s not hurting anyone, anything goes. Have fun. 🙂

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**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-odd-fetish-explain-critique-psychoanalyze/636740/22 "2012-10-06T00:39:55Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> I’ve read that “what turns you on” is set when you are very young. Pre puberty. So, of course if you’re watching The Avengers with Emma Peel, that’s going to have lasting effects.

Exactly. I have a mind control fetish, and while I’m sure amateur psychoanalysts could talk about control issues or whatnot, but honestly, it’s a lot more likely it came from me growing up with Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends, the Superfriends, and whatnot on Saturday morning cartoons. Almost every other episode had someone brainwashed by a mind-control ray, or a chip, or turned into a bee-person by a giant radioactive space-bee-creature, etc.

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> I think fetish implies that you can not have sex, without the stimulus of the fetish. And the fetish is non-sexual in nature. (knocked out) Althogh, I would imagine that the KO in your mind is similar to the woman having an orgasm. And since you are able to have “normal” sex without it, then it is a fantasy or a turn on but not a fetish.

That is often used as a textbook definition of a fetish, but almost no online fetish communities that I’ve seen stick to it.

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-odd-fetish-explain-critique-psychoanalyze/636740/23 "2012-10-06T00:54:01Z")

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I have two very powerful fetishes, both originating well before puberty. Because of this, I’ve spent a lot of time reading up on fetishes in an effort to understand my own. One thing I read that seems to ring true for mine is that a fetish is the eroticization of a deeply held fear. Is there an element of that for you? Do you have a deep fear of being knocked out /losing control, being rendered unconcious?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-odd-fetish-explain-critique-psychoanalyze/636740/24 "2012-10-06T04:19:55Z")

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> [@gytalf2000](#):
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> I think the underlying reason behind my fetish is more along the lines of “I’m lazy and I don’t want to bother with people / women” more than outright intimidation or fear. Of course, an experienced psychotherapist might disagree.
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> I would also rather enjoy my fetish than over-analyze it. Of course, that brings us back to “laziness”, I suppose… Ha1

Well, you did start a thread asking people to analyze your fetish, so …

There is, however, no need to anaylze your attraction to Diana Rigg. She was drop dead stunning on the Avengers and I think almost anyone attracted to women who is old enough to remember the show found her a-Peel-ing (see what I did there?).

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-odd-fetish-explain-critique-psychoanalyze/636740/25 "2012-10-08T12:56:42Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Well, you did start a thread asking people to analyze your fetish, so …
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> There is, however, no need to anaylze your attraction to Diana Rigg. She was drop dead stunning on the Avengers and I think almost anyone attracted to women who is old enough to remember the show found her a-Peel-ing (see what I did there?).

Well, I mean, it is interesting to hear other people’s comments and think about it now and then, but I don’t want to spend a huge amount of time obsessing about it.

And you are very correct about Diana Rigg – truly “a-Peel-ing”! Funny!

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**Author:** ![sleepinguk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sleepinguk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleepinguk)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-odd-fetish-explain-critique-psychoanalyze/636740/26 "2012-10-08T22:48:35Z")

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Well to overturn the Apple cart so to speak my reply is in complete reversal to the above but still very relevant as my kink fetish dark desire is not to do the overpowering or KO’ing but be overpowered Knocked out Gassed **{Gassed being my personal Favourite method}** or Chloroformed drugged etc by these women femme fatales Super Heroines or spy girls instead. Because I’ve had a sleep fetish like this since I was a teen {Blame Batman Wonderwoman all that genre} & I’m now not far off the big 50 but as I am predominately submissive & my partner Predominantly Dominant & I love the sensations of sleepiness dizziness & being incapacitated etc so there’s no need to psychoanalyze…But once again your not alone those that have these dark fantasies! Great Forum

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-odd-fetish-explain-critique-psychoanalyze/636740/27 "2012-10-08T23:04:12Z")

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> [@sleepinguk](#):
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> Well to overturn the Apple cart so to speak my reply is in complete reversal to the above but still very relevant as my kink fetish dark desire is not to do the overpowering or KO’ing but be overpowered Knocked out Gassed **{Gassed being my personal Favourite method}** or Chloroformed drugged etc by these women femme fatales Super Heroines or spy girls instead. Because I’ve had a sleep fetish like this since I was a teen {Blame Batman Wonderwoman all that genre} & I’m now not far off the big 50 but as I am predominately submissive & my partner Predominantly Dominant & I love the sensations of sleepiness dizziness & being incapacitated etc so there’s no need to psychoanalyze..But once again your not alone those that have these dark fantasies! Great Forum

That is interesting! Thanks for sharing.

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**Author:** ![marquezzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb9ed0/32.png) [@marquezzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marquezzy)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-odd-fetish-explain-critique-psychoanalyze/636740/28 "2012-10-09T04:28:46Z")

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> [@sleepinguk](#):
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> Well to overturn the Apple cart so to speak my reply is in complete reversal to the above but still very relevant as my kink fetish dark desire is not to do the overpowering or KO’ing but be overpowered Knocked out Gassed **{Gassed being my personal Favourite method}** or Chloroformed drugged etc by these women femme fatales Super Heroines or spy girls instead. Because I’ve had a sleep fetish like this since I was a teen {Blame Batman Wonderwoman all that genre} & I’m now not far off the big 50 but as I am predominately submissive & my partner Predominantly Dominant & I love the sensations of sleepiness dizziness & being incapacitated etc so there’s no need to psychoanalyze..But once again your not alone those that have these dark fantasies! Great Forum

Great comment, thanks for your thoughts. Although it may seem obsessive to want to analyze my fantasies, I feel it’s more an exploration of where they come from and what they are about. I really love hearing everyone’s comments and sincerely take no offense to anyone’s thoughts on the subject of which I asked for input. Thanks everyone for participating and humoring me. Now I must return to my Avengers viewing 😉

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-odd-fetish-explain-critique-psychoanalyze/636740/29 "2012-10-09T04:54:38Z")

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I don’t think it’s possible to come up with anything sexually arousing that isn’t shared by quite a few people, at least.

Without going into details, my very first sexual fantasy happened at the age of 5. Of course, I didn’t know anything about sexuality, and had no idea that the “funny feeling” in my genital area was sexual arousal. But there were several unmistakable aspects of it that have survived for the remainder of my 67 years. They have of course grown in complexity, but the seeds of sexuality can be traced back to the age of 5. This defies any kind of analysis or explanation. They cannot be explained by any previous trauma, neither physical nor emotional. These feelings just ARE.

And it’s interesting to note that my partner of almost 25 years bears an uncanny resemblance to the object of that fantasy. At the age of 5, I somehow already knew my “type.”

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-odd-fetish-explain-critique-psychoanalyze/636740/30 "2012-10-09T16:50:34Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> I don’t think it’s possible to come up with anything sexually arousing that isn’t shared by quite a few people, at least.
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> Without going into details, my very first sexual fantasy happened at the age of 5. Of course, I didn’t know anything about sexuality, and had no idea that the “funny feeling” in my genital area was sexual arousal. But there were several unmistakable aspects of it that have survived for the remainder of my 67 years. They have of course grown in complexity, but the seeds of sexuality can be traced back to the age of 5. This defies any kind of analysis or explanation. They cannot be explained by any previous trauma, neither physical nor emotional. These feelings just ARE.
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> And it’s interesting to note that my partner of almost 25 years bears an uncanny resemblance to the object of that fantasy. At the age of 5, I somehow already knew my “type.”

Yeah, my knockout fetish started at about the same age, if not sooner. I remember watching some TV program at my grandparent’s house, and seeing a pretty brunette unconscious and getting “cradle-carried” by some big guy. Can’t remember the show, but that scene definitely had an effect on me.

The next scene that I definitely recall was seeing a cartoon, “Space Ghost”, where the hero’s assistant Jan gets KOed.

The first comic book that I ever purchased simply because a pretty girl was KOed inside was Avengers #59. the Wasp faints, and later is nerve-pinched into unconsciousness.

> **[Avengers v1 #059 I](http://sleepycomics.com/scenes/1129)**
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> Faint

> **[Avengers v1 #059](http://sleepycomics.com/scenes/1130)**
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> Nerve Pinch

That comic was cover-dated December 1968, so it was likely available in August of that year. I was seven, and I had enjoyed seeing KOs in comics for a while before that – my uncles had some old, extremely-battered cover-less comics from the Golden Age – I had seen some nice knockout scenes featuring Sheena, Tiger Girl and Phantom Lady already!

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-odd-fetish-explain-critique-psychoanalyze/636740/31 "2012-10-09T17:00:57Z")

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I have kind of a fetish about seducing women away from what they are supposed to be doing. A secretary at work, a maid in the hotel, a teacher between classes etc. Huge turn on for me.

I think it signifies a geniune reaction to me rather than a want to use me type reaction.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-odd-fetish-explain-critique-psychoanalyze/636740/32 "2012-10-09T18:05:43Z")

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> [@badger5149](#):
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> I have kind of a fetish about seducing women away from what they are supposed to be doing. A secretary at work, a maid in the hotel, a teacher between classes etc. Huge turn on for me.
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> I think it signifies a geniune reaction to me rather than a want to use me type reaction.

Hey, that’s pretty interesting! Do you also fantasize about them getting caught and getting into trouble for being negligent in their duties? Or do they always “get away with it”?

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**Author:** ![marquezzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb9ed0/32.png) [@marquezzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marquezzy)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-odd-fetish-explain-critique-psychoanalyze/636740/33 "2012-10-10T06:12:24Z")

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> [@badger5149](#):
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> I have kind of a fetish about seducing women away from what they are supposed to be doing. A secretary at work, a maid in the hotel, a teacher between classes etc. Huge turn on for me.
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> I think it signifies a geniune reaction to me rather than a want to use me type reaction.

I love it. I agree that it probably is their reaction, that you could lure them away from their duties, that is the erotic appeal but still, the fantasy is very hot. I have also always fantasized about similar women: maids, secretaries, librarians, teachers. Interesting to me is that they are all servants of a sort, already submissive in a way. I can see a thin parallel between these characters and the knocked out female heroines that I lust after.

Great post!

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-odd-fetish-explain-critique-psychoanalyze/636740/34 "2012-10-11T15:26:48Z")

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There is a fetish for women that can’t get their car started, the engine cranks but it doesn’t start. High heels and pumping the gas pedal seem to be sought after as well. So no your fetish isn’t weird.

Seems like basic dominance to me, trace it back to cave men knocking out women with a club and dragging them back into their cave (ok maybe that is a relatively modern notion.) I think your fetish is fairly normal or else all those writers wouldn’t have made scenes like that in movies.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-odd-fetish-explain-critique-psychoanalyze/636740/35 "2012-10-11T15:49:34Z")

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> [@control-z](#):
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> There is a fetish for women that can’t get their car started, the engine cranks but it doesn’t start. High heels and pumping the gas pedal seem to be sought after as well. So no your fetish isn’t weird.
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> Seems like basic dominance to me, trace it back to cave men knocking out women with a club and dragging them back into their cave (ok maybe that is a relatively modern notion.) I think your fetish is fairly normal or else all those writers wouldn’t have made scenes like that in movies.

I hadn’t heard of that one. Fascinating. I’m really enjoying the resurrection of this thread! I love the SDMB. Fun stuff – and you learn something, too!

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