# My Official Response To The Haters (re: Hillary) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 17, 2015, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947 "2015-04-17T23:49:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/121 "2015-04-22T04:29:00Z")
I’m betting someone in this thread is a Taurus. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/122 "2015-04-22T04:42:56Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > I’m betting someone in this thread is a Taurus. Guilty. }:=8| ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/123 "2015-04-22T14:08:26Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > Oh shoot, I thought I read the definition as “condescend to give (something).” > > I didn’t realize it actually said, “condescend to give (something) to a party that wants it, presumably as a favor or in response to a request.” > > I guess I need thicker glasses. Those details matter. Look, **Stringbean,** let’s drop this three-page hijack about word usage. Can you at least agree by this point that HRC’s opening campaign-video is not in any sense “demographic warfare,” nor in any way an unfair or objectionable tactic? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/124 "2015-04-22T14:17:02Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Look, **Stringbean,** let’s drop this three-page hijack about word usage. Can you at least agree by this point that HRC’s opening campaign-video is not in any sense “demographic warfare,” nor in any way an unfair or objectionable tactic? Well,I guess it’s fair to establish a metric early on. If Clinton’s fairly innocuous video prompts a disproportionately negative response from someone, I’d have no expectation of reasoned dialog with that person once the campaigns are in full swing. So, Stringbean, are you going to be stupid for the next 18 months? Letting us know now might be considered a courteous gesture to keep us from wasting our time in efforts at actual debate. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/125 "2015-04-22T14:20:08Z")
It occurs to me to offer that suggestion more broadly: Anyone who is determined to be stupid for the next 18 months, please signal by referring to Clinton’s video as “treason porn”. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/126 "2015-04-22T18:57:10Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > So, Stringbean, are you going to be stupid for the next 18 months? Stringbean is no flip-flopper. Over the next 18 months Stringbean will demonstrate the same intelligence we have seen over the last 17 months. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/127 "2015-04-22T22:16:31Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Look, **Stringbean,** let’s drop this three-page hijack about word usage. Can you at least agree by this point that HRC’s opening campaign-video is not in any sense “demographic warfare,” nor in any way an unfair or objectionable tactic? 1. Once those who falsely attacked me for using a word in a functionally-valid manner have issued their due apologies, I will gladly move back to the topic. 2. It is a perfectly fair, well-calculated tactic. I never said otherwise. I believe it was smart and will work. But I don’t drink the Kool-aid; Hillary don’t give a fuck about anyone but Hillary. She has shown her cards; the lines are drawn; the warfare to ensue. 3. And it should be noted, this side-show all started because you pitting me and called me an intellectually dishonest, sexist, racist misogynist. I think the debate ended at that point. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/128 "2015-04-22T22:18:33Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > 1. Once those who falsely attacked me for using a word in a functionally-valid manner have issued their due apologies, I will gladly move back to the topic. My but you’re a fucking sensitive snowflake. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/129 "2015-04-22T22:23:20Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > 1. It is a perfectly fair, well-calculated tactic. I never said otherwise. I believe it was smart and will work. But I don’t drink the Kool-aid; Hillary don’t give a fuck about anyone but Hillary. She has shown her cards; the lines are drawn; the warfare to ensue. You still haven’t explained what this “Tactic” is. Putting people in a video is hardly a tactic. Do you object to people of color being portrayed positively? Is that demographic warfare? What do you mean “the lines are drawn?” Please type slowly so the rest of us can try to understand. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/130 "2015-04-22T22:23:49Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > 1. Once those who falsely attacked me for using a word in a functionally-valid manner have issued their due apologies, I will gladly move back to the topic. So we can silence you forever by mocking how you misuse words and (rightfully) not apologizing? This is most excellent news. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/131 "2015-04-22T22:28:54Z")
I did not bring forth the senseless debate but merely ended it with grammatical fact. All that is left is for those on the losing end to acknowledge this reality. Indeed, the snow lay on their noses. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/132 "2015-04-22T22:30:51Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > You still haven’t explained what this “Tactic” is. Putting people in a video is hardly a tactic. Do you object to people of color being portrayed positively? Is that demographic warfare? What do you mean “the lines are drawn?” Read the OP. Ignore those who couldn’t debate it and errantly attacked my correct use of the word “deign.” It has all you seek. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/133 "2015-04-22T22:34:07Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > I did not bring forth the senseless debate but merely ended it with grammatical fact. > > All that is left is for those on the losing end to acknowledge this reality. > > Indeed, the snow lay on their noses. Did you deign it there? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/134 "2015-04-22T22:37:26Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > Read the OP. Ignore those who couldn’t debate it and errantly attacked my correct use of the word “deign.” > > It has all you seek. I started there. > [@](#): > > On that note, some wonder about my use of the term “demographic fairy tales.” A fair point, so allow me to explain. The recession hit lower-class Americans the hardest. Among those lie the primary demographics Hillary is targeting—blacks, asians, and latinos. Yeah, whites were hurt too, but much less so. Hillary’s announcement video made a point of parading the stories of successful minorities. No mention that the recession has crushed minorities and how to affect that: a feast of happy-go-lucky-ism. She has made a point of parading the stories of successful minorities. Ok. How is that demographic warfare? I’m a successful white guy, I don’t feel like she’s declared war on me. How should I feel when I see a parade of successful minorities? Please tell me, because my instinct is to feel pretty good about it. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/135 "2015-04-22T22:37:35Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > Read the OP. Ignore those who couldn’t debate it and errantly attacked my correct use of the word “deign.” > > It has all you seek. Your OP and subsequent clarifications did not successfully support your assertions of “demographic warfare” or “demographic fairy tales”. It’s ridiculous to claim that an optimistic portrayal of a diverse group of people, which is all Hillary’s ad consisted of, is any sort of “warfare” or “fairy tale” at all. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/136 "2015-04-22T22:45:24Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Did you deign it there? In the metaphorical sense, by correcting their erroneous accusation of grammatical mishap, I did. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/137 "2015-04-22T22:51:19Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > In the metaphorical sense, by correcting their erroneous accusation of grammatical mishap, I did. Maybe if you speak really, really formally, people will think you chose “deign” multiple times on purpose. (Of course, the bigger hope is that you’ll actually look up unfamiliar words before you use them, Oswald.) ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/138 "2015-04-22T23:14:19Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > In the metaphorical sense, by correcting their erroneous accusation of grammatical mishap, I did. …ladies. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/139 "2015-04-22T23:51:47Z")
You come here to pick up chicks? How’s that workin’ out for you, playa? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-official-response-to-the-haters-re-hillary/717947/140 "2015-04-23T00:42:36Z")
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