# My own little peeve - music-related

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-little-peeve-music-related/196165>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 19, 2003, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-little-peeve-music-related/196165 "2003-08-19T08:11:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-little-peeve-music-related/196165/81 "2003-08-22T15:12:40Z")

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I stand by my assumption, it’s stood the test of time.

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**Author:** ![Tarrsk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@Tarrsk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarrsk)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-little-peeve-music-related/196165/82 "2003-08-23T00:48:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by World Eater \*  
> \*\*I stand by my assumption, it’s stood the test of time. \*\*

Until today, anyway.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-little-peeve-music-related/196165/83 "2003-08-23T00:55:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tarrsk \*  
> \*\*Until today, anyway. \*\*

Usually doesn’t mean 100% of the time.

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**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-little-peeve-music-related/196165/84 "2003-08-23T12:36:42Z")

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> _originally posted by World Eater_  
> I stand by my assumption, it’s stood the test of time.

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> _originally posted by World Eater_  
> The problem of hypocrisy runs deep into society.

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-little-peeve-music-related/196165/85 "2003-08-23T16:13:33Z")

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My band is better than your band, we take more drugs than a touring funk band.

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**Author:** ![Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/db5fbb/32.png) [@Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-little-peeve-music-related/196165/86 "2003-08-23T16:50:45Z")

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**gex gex:** Dashboard Confessional _isn’t_ emo. 🙂 If I recall correctly, you and I got into this before and you claimed that it’s classified as emo because people call it emo, or some similar circular definition. Lyrical content alone doesn’t the emo genre make, otherwise El-P’s T.O.J. and Eminem’s Cleaning out my Closet would be right there along with DBC.

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**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2003, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-little-peeve-music-related/196165/87 "2003-08-24T12:45:03Z")

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**Fred** , we possibly did get on to this before, but it isn’t the lyrical content that puts Dashboard in the emo category. It is, as i said above with reference to punk groups, cultural.

Chris Carraba was in an emo band prior to Dashboard, Dashboard tour with emo bands and yeah, I suppose the lyrics help too. But, it is more than that. Emo has a certain something that screams “emo,” and whatever that something is, it’s found in the songs of Dashboard Confessional. Maybe it’s the song titles, like _Age Six Racer_, or lyrical style (rather than subject).

But it’s alright. There can be shit emo. Just cause somethings played on MTV, it doesn’t mean that it must be shipped out of the emo category lest everything else be tainted by its touch.

I’ll also mention that [allmusic.com](http://allmusic.com) lists emo as one of Dashboards styles, amongst indie rock and alternative pop/rock. It doesn’t exactly prove anything; allmusic often gets genres wrong, but at least it demonstrates that I’m hardly alone in thinking this.

But I’ll reiterate my main argument for Dashboard being emo (so it doesn’t get lost amongst my tangents): it’s a cultural thing.

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