# my own Marvel Universe "geographical atlas" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 2, 2004, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270 "2004-07-02T20:14:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/1 "2004-07-02T20:14:09Z")
I’ve been trying to list of all the fictional marvel comic book points of interest. Sort of like that companies’ old handbook of characters series, but for destinations, not people. (Why? 'Cuz I’m a geek. That’s why!) Thus far, I’ve thought of the following list of past & present places: Avengers’ Mansion the Baxter Building / 4 Freedom Plaza the Daily Bugle building the Morlock Alley the Hellfire Club Sanctum Sanctorum Empire State University Charles Xaviers’ School for Gifted Youngsters Emma Frost’s Massachussetts’ Academy Forge’s Aerie Hydrobase / Avenger’s Island S.H.I.E.L.D. Helicarrier Muir Isle Cassidy Keep Atlantis Avalon Wundagore Mountain Latveria Wakanda Genosha Olympia (Eternals’ city) Lemuria the Savage Land Monster Island Subterranea Asteroid M Magneto’s Avalon the Blue Area of the moon (including Uatu’s dome & Attilan) Titan Uranos Asgard Olympus Limbo (Immortus’s realm) Limbo (Belasco’s realm) Galactus’ worldship the Beyonder’s Battleworld But I know I must be missing a lot more. What other fictional destinations might be included in this list? (And eventually, I’ll get around to a DC Universe one too.) ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/2 "2004-07-02T20:38:17Z")
The Avengers West compound Richmond Riding Academy (former Defenders headquarters) Hell (“Satan’s” realm) Hell (Mephisto’s realm) Counter-Earth Land of the Cat People (where Tigra’s mentor was from) Dormamu’s dimension The Orb of Agamatto The Purple Gem dimension Earth (Squadron Supreme) Earth (innumerable alternates, some of which were seen in _What If?_) Man-Thing’s swamp, including the Nexus of All Realities ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/3 "2004-07-02T20:39:54Z")
Falsworth Castle (home of Union Jack, Spitfire, and Baron Blood). The ancestral estates of Baron Strucker and Baron Zemo. The Ancient One’s palace in the Himilayas. The Himilayan monastery where Dr. Doom forged his armor. Wherever it was that Iron Fist learned his trade (Ku’un Lun?) ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/4 "2004-07-02T20:43:29Z")
Some of these locales move. Atillan was originally in the Alps, then the Himalayas, the moon, and now it’s somewhere in the Atlantic (I think). They move it on purpose to keep it hidden. Ditto Olympia. Wakanda tends to be wherever it needs to be for a given story. Don McGregor drew a map of it, placing it on the Atlantic coast, presumably near the Cingo River (It has a jungle, and all African jungle is in the Cingo region). A later story put it on the border of South Africa. An issue of Daredevil featured a Wakandan expatriate, the Golden Gloder, who had a map of Africa on the back of his jackewt with an arrow pointing to Wakanda; the arrow pointed to a wildly different spot from one panel to the next. How about Red Raven’s floating island (last seen in the Defenders/Order series)? Or Demonia (Dr. Demonicus’ island from West Coast Avengers), Fasaud’s middle-eastern kingdom, or Wyatt Wingfoot’s Keewazi Reservation? Or Dormammu’s Dark Dimension? Or Yancy Street? ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/5 "2004-07-02T20:43:53Z")
The Negative Zone The Microverse(s) Jarella’s world The M’Kraan (sp?) crystal (X-men) The Crossroads (where Hulk was trapped c. issue 200) Alt-Earths from Excalibre The Siege Perilous The Reavers’ compound (temporary X-men HQ) ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/6 "2004-07-02T20:44:15Z")
If you are including other planets like Titan and Uranos, throw in Skrullos (before Galactus ate it) the Kree homeworld, and the Shi’ar capital. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/7 "2004-07-02T20:47:12Z")
> [@Krokodil](#): > > Wakanda tends to be wherever it needs to be for a given story. Don McGregor drew a map of it, placing it on the Atlantic coast, presumably near the **Cingo** River (It has a jungle, and all African jungle is in the **Cingo** region). A later story put it on the border of South Africa. An issue of Daredevil featured a Wakandan expatriate, the Golden **Gloder** , who had a map of Africa on the back of his **jackewt** with an arrow pointing to Wakanda; the arrow pointed to a wildly different spot from one panel to the next. I usually just let my typos sit there, but… These should say Congo, Congo, Glider and Jacket, respectively. Damn those Skrulls! ---
**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/8 "2004-07-02T20:53:07Z")
Pretty good list. The only one I can add is: Pantheon HQ (The Mount, Southwestern United States) This is from the Pantheon Saga, when Hulk is aligned with Hector, Agamemnon, et al. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/9 "2004-07-02T21:22:52Z")
Would the [Marvel Atlas Project website](http://www.aub.dk/~henckel/map.html) be of any use? According to that, Wakanda is between Chad and Nigeria; Latveria is between Hungary and Romania/Transylvania; and Monster Island is roughly between Hokkaido and Honshu. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/10 "2004-07-02T21:34:05Z")
So many Hulk references, and we forgot Gamma Base! ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/11 "2004-07-02T21:36:20Z")
Hulkbusters Base. Somewhere in the American Great Southwest. ---
**Author:** ![Freejooky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ba8739/32.png) [@Freejooky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freejooky)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/12 "2004-07-02T21:40:30Z")
Madripoor. ---
**Author:** ![Kaspar\_Hauser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b3f665/32.png) [@Kaspar\_Hauser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaspar_Hauser)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/13 "2004-07-02T21:47:52Z")
The Coffee Bean ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/14 "2004-07-02T22:03:52Z")
[You’re not the first](http://www.aub.dk/~henckel/faq.html). The second edition of _The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe_ (a series of comics giving the straight dope on the various Marvel characters and places in alphabetical order) had an entry for “Manhattan”, showing a map of the city and significant locations circa 1986 (the upper half is recorded [here](http://www.paratime.ca/v_and_v/pics/manhattan_mu01.jpg)), including the Avengers’ mansion, Dr. Strange’s Sanctum Sanctorium and Peter Parker’s apartment. ---
**Author:** ![verbenabeast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@verbenabeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/verbenabeast)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/15 "2004-07-02T22:13:16Z")
Alkili Lake would be there… as would the headquarters for Starke Enterprises ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/16 "2004-07-02T23:14:17Z")
> [@Ranchoth](#): > > Would the [Marvel Atlas Project website](http://www.aub.dk/~henckel/map.html) be of any use? Wow! I had no idea about that. Pretty cool site. Okay, so the additions to my list so far include - The Avengers West compound Richmond Riding Academy (former Defenders headquarters) Hell (“Satan’s” realm) Hell (Mephisto’s realm) Counter-Earth Land of the Cat People (where Tigra’s mentor was from) Dormamu’s dimension The Orb of Agamatto The Purple Gem dimension Earth (Squadron Supreme) Earth (innumerable alternates, some of which were seen in What If?) Man-Thing’s swamp, including the Nexus of All Realities Falsworth Castle (home of Union Jack, Spitfire, and Baron Blood). The ancestral estates of Baron Strucker and Baron Zemo. The Ancient One’s palace in the Himilayas. The Himilayan monastery where Dr. Doom forged his armor. Ku’un Lun The Negative Zone - (can’t believe I forgot this one!) The Microverse(s) - (or this!) Jarella’s world The M’Kraan (sp?) crystal (X-men) The Crossroads (where Hulk was trapped c. issue 200) Alt-Earths from Excalibre The Reavers’ compound (temporary X-men HQ) Skrullos Kree homeworld Shi’ar throneworld Pantheon HQ Gamma Base Hulkbusters Base Coffee Bean and Madripoor. But isn’t/wasn’t the Siege Perilous a device rather than a place? Maybe I’m not remembering it right, but I thought it was a gateway into the past - enabling the various X-Men to relive their lives differently. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/17 "2004-07-03T01:59:29Z")
> [@Ranchoth](#): > > Would the [Marvel Atlas Project website](http://www.aub.dk/~henckel/map.html) be of any use? > > According to that, Wakanda is between Chad and Nigeria; Latveria is between Hungary and Romania/Transylvania; and Monster Island is roughly between Hokkaido and Honshu. Latveria sounds about right. Wakanda has to be (a) sub-Saharan and (b) jungle, so it can’t be there; I’d put it closer to the Angolan exclave of Cabinda. Monster Island is explicitly in the Kuriles. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2004, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/18 "2004-07-03T02:24:36Z")
Would Ego count as a character or a location? (I’d say both, personally.) The Blue Moon City ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2004, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/19 "2004-07-03T02:33:57Z")
Great list!! Would it blur the continuum between reality and the Marvel Universe if I pointed out that my wife **Skulldigger** has her B.A. degree from Empire State University? ---
**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2004, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270/20 "2004-07-03T02:43:21Z")
> [@Krokodil](#): > > Latveria sounds about right. Wakanda has to be (a) sub-Saharan and (b) jungle, so it can’t be there; I’d put it closer to the Angolan exclave of Cabinda. > > Monster Island is explicitly in the Kuriles. Official Handbook to the Marvel Universe: Deluxe Edition cites Wakanda as being in equatorial Africa which would put it anywhere between the Congo, Zaire and Kenya. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-own-marvel-universe-geographical-atlas/253270.md?page=2)