# My perennials were beautiful while they lasted. RIP **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 10, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-perennials-were-beautiful-while-they-lasted-rip/932616 "2021-02-10T16:12:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-perennials-were-beautiful-while-they-lasted-rip/932616/21 "2021-02-11T22:51:44Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I probably wouldn’t plant a flowerbed in zone 4 We have gorgeous flowerbeds in zone 4. Long live iris, peonies, bee balm, and much more. We just don’t have heliotrope… To be fair, I would ideally live in zone 6 now that there are lilacs that can handle the warmer temps. That way, I could grow more herbs. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-perennials-were-beautiful-while-they-lasted-rip/932616/22 "2021-02-11T23:03:08Z")
> [@carnut](#): > > even good seed catalogs with describe a plant as extremely hardy if it grows in zone 6 while its cousins can barely handle zone 7. Not Fedco or High Mowing or Johnny’s or (plants not seed) St. Lawrence. Or some others; that’s just who comes to the top of my mind. You’re probably getting catalogs either from companies based in the South, or from ones based nowhere in particular. ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-perennials-were-beautiful-while-they-lasted-rip/932616/23 "2021-02-11T23:18:12Z")
Johnny’s is a good one. I hadn’t heard of the others. A couple of my usual companies bellied up. I blame myself for moving to a condo, but my back can’t handle much gardening any more. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-perennials-were-beautiful-while-they-lasted-rip/932616/24 "2021-02-11T23:26:46Z")
Try [Pinetree](https://www.superseeds.com/). Maine-based, little packs for people with little space; some of the varieties do well in pots. (I don’t work for any of the companies I’m naming here. I have ordered from all of them at one point or another.) ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-perennials-were-beautiful-while-they-lasted-rip/932616/25 "2021-02-11T23:31:33Z")
This looks promising. Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-perennials-were-beautiful-while-they-lasted-rip/932616/26 "2021-02-12T00:37:38Z")
I took out all the grass in my yard in zone 3/4 and have it all in flower and vegetable garden beds at this point. My peeve is plants that don’t have a zone listed on them. The first thing I look at is not the height or colour or sun requirements - it’s the zone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-perennials-were-beautiful-while-they-lasted-rip/932616.md?page=1)