# My Racist Rant On Universalism!

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [July 13, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121 "2012-07-13T16:54:51Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/21 "2012-07-13T17:33:36Z")

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> [@EnlightenedOne](#):
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> You people don’t understand, The Creator made lions to eat lambs, wolves to eat rabbits, hawks to eat sparrows, and the races of men to fight for women, territory, power and life. There is no love, just law, harsh, cruel, unforgiving but perfect, natural law.

Seems like a perfectly reasonable reading of the gospels to me.

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### Author: ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/22 "2012-07-13T17:35:06Z")

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> [@EnlightenedOne](#):
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> There is no love, just law, harsh, cruel, unforgiving but perfect, natural law.

I think you need to re-read the Younger Edda.

Fighting is only valued because it is a display of a man’s courage and valor. You can also display courage and valor by standing up for your family and friends against an enemy, or standing up for what is right against your friends. You can fight for the aquisition of gold and women (though these days we like to give the women a say), or you can fight for a better world for your children.

Wotan (or Oðinn, as I prefer) was not an idiot, and I challenge you to show me where he had any respect for idiots or bigots.

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### Author: ![EnlightenedOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c2a13f/32.png) [@EnlightenedOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EnlightenedOne)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/23 "2012-07-13T17:35:08Z")

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> [@Capt\_Kirk](#):
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> You know that settles it, I am going to ask out that beautiful woman who has been hanging out at my local. She is tall and African American if I am lucky enough to marry her, I will put our children up against yours any day. Gauntlet dropped
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> **CAPT**
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> PS I am white as the summer day is long

You are a disgrace soldier, the White race has suffered invasions and brutality from Africa and Asia for thousands of years and your willingly going to fornicate with an enemy. Let me give you a little history lesson, Attila and the Asiatic Huns who invaded Europe in the 5th century, raping, plundering and killing from the Alps to the Baltic and the Caspian Seas. This scenario was repeated by the Mongols of Genghis Khan 800 years later. (Note here that the American Indians are not “Native Americans,” but are racially Mongolians.) In the 8th century, hundreds of years before Negroes were brought to America, the North African Moors of mixed racial background invaded and conquered Portugal, Spain and part of France. So, the attempted guilt-trip placed on the White race by civilization’s executioners is invalid under both historical circumstance and the Natural Law which denies inter-specie compassion. The fact is, all races have benefited immeasurably from the creative genius of the Aryan People.

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### Author: ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/24 "2012-07-13T17:36:40Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> What is “white man’s food”? Is that like, mayonaisse, or twinkies?

I honestly don’t know. I’m a white man, and yet I’m munching on some tacos for lunch as we speak. Am I still a white man? And why do I suddenly have the urge to mow a lawn? I don’t even have a lawn - I live in a condo next to the beach.

I have noticed that eating Kung Pao chicken makes me better at math, though.

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### Author: ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/25 "2012-07-13T17:37:08Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> Wotan (or Oðinn, as I prefer) was not an idiot, and I challenge you to show me where he had any respect for idiots or bigots.

[Wotanism](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wotanism)has nothing to do with Odin (or Wotan).

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### Author: ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/26 "2012-07-13T17:38:58Z")

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> [@EnlightenedOne](#):
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> . . . from the creative genius of the Aryan People.

. . . who invaded Europe from Asia hundreds of years before Attila, but the fact that they invaded from Asia is beyond question. Your blood, old son, is white European native mixed with Asian invaders from WAY back. None of us is “pure race” and all of us are pure human.

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### Author: ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/27 "2012-07-13T17:41:25Z")

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Whose side are the Vietnamese going to be on? I’m definitely joining with the blacks if they get the Vietnamese.

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### Author: ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/28 "2012-07-13T17:41:50Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [Wotanism](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wotanism)has nothing to do with Odin (or Wotan).

The first paragraph of your link belies your statement. I know what it is, and as a neopagan of a different stripe I have my own way of combatting it. By all means address it from a different angle.

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### Author: ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/29 "2012-07-13T17:45:03Z")

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> [@EnlightenedOne](#):
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> The faggots can put 125,000 on the streets of another city.

So, ya don’t like faggots and ya don’t like coloureds. Who do you like? Don’t say “whites”, cause I’m white and want no parts of you. Asswipe.

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### Author: ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/30 "2012-07-13T17:46:35Z")

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How come my black pug is always trying to make puppies with my white bulldog?

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### Author: ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/31 "2012-07-13T17:47:38Z")

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Moving thread from MPSIMS to Great Debates

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### Author: ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/32 "2012-07-13T17:47:50Z")

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Did you just find out about that black Asgardian in the Thor movie or something?

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### Author: ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/33 "2012-07-13T17:49:54Z")

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There has to be a hack where Mods can change names before locking threads. Like change this OP’s name to **IAmAPigFucker**.

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/34 "2012-07-13T17:51:40Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> There has to be a hack where Mods can change names before locking threads. Like change this OP’s name to **IAmAPigFucker**.

For whatever brief amount of time this discussion lasts, don’t call people pig fuckers outside of The BBQ Pit.

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### Author: ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/35 "2012-07-13T17:54:29Z")

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To be honest, that’s where I expected **Ellen Cherry** to send this instead of **GD.**

I humbly apologize to the Board and it’s readers for my lapse in good grace and manners. I am duly chastized.

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### Author: ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/36 "2012-07-13T17:57:24Z")

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For what it’s worth, I forgive you. Of course, I also agree with you.

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### Author: ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/37 "2012-07-13T17:59:41Z")

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> [@EnlightenedOne](#):
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> Our children face a terrible future. Teach them to be wise and cunning when among the enemy.

My kids are Asian, so they are that way already. When they are among the enemy, at least - at home they rely mostly on “cute”.

Regards,  
Shodan

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### Author: ![EnlightenedOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c2a13f/32.png) [@EnlightenedOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EnlightenedOne)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/38 "2012-07-13T18:02:17Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> When you say “each race is genetically different, a different species,” you are flat-out wrong. If it were true, people of different races would not habitually interbreed, but they do, quite happily. There are genetic differences in different human populations, but that’s not the same thing AT ALL as saying there’s a genetic basis for the American social categories of White, Black, etc.
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> ETA: I see a mention of the Jews, many (but not all) of whom are white. And that you practice Wotanism, which is kind of interesting, but there’s no reason to think the ancient Scandinavians and Germans had any real opinion on Jews or Black people, much less a worry about mixing with them. Wotan repected courage and character, and there’s no reson to think he wouldn’t have admired a Jewish person or a Black person who lived according to his values.

I am\*\* ONLY\*\* genetically the same as all my Aryan bothers and sisters, one of the most common mistakes is calling non-white people Aryan like the Gypsies and Persians and obviously other smaller related groups of people.

Also, the term Caucasian is correct, don’t let the scientists fool you, white people originated in the Caucasus region ( the mountains between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea ) and are not from Africa.

Most white people can be put in four main categories - however, there are exceptions. The four main categories are:

1. Latin - descendants of the Romans: Portugal, Spain, Andorra, France, part of Belgium, Switzerland, Italy and Romania.

2. Germanic - or Teutonic people, in ancient times considered barbarians, now every germanic country is a first world country, too bad the damn politicians don’t stop immigration. Iceland, the Faroe Islands, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, but Finland IS NOT a germanic country even though it is a Nordic country. I’ll get to it later. Germany, the Netherlands ( and between the Netherlands, Germany and Denmark live the Frisian people, also germanic, along the coast of the North Sea. ) Switzerland, the northern part of Belgium, England, yes, England and not the UK, as England is the only genetically germanic, although mixed of the constituent countries. Wales, Scotland and NI are Celtic. The US is a special case, the common language is English, a germanic language, and the most reported ancestry is german. However, as the US was a melting pot for the European nations, it cannot be placed in one category or the other.

3. Slavic people, I don’t know very much about them so I’ll tell you the countries: the Czech republic, Slovakia, Poland, Slovenia, the countries of the former Yugoslavia( Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia, etc ) with the notable exception of Albania, Bulgaria, Belarus, Ukraine and Russia, although it should be noted that slavic people only inhabit the northern and western part. The southern and eastern parts are inhabited by turkic people ( non whites ).

4. Celtic. The only independent country as far as I know, I could be wrong that is genetically Celtic is Ireland. However, Celtic people still inhabit the Isle of Mann, Scotland, Wales, Cornwall and parts of Brittany.

Now there are exceptions, well they are not really an exception, they simply form a smaller group slightly distinct from the ones above as they are not indo european. I am talking about the finno ugric people, people who came to Europe from the Ural mountains, Finland, Estonia and Hungary. They are white but they are not genetically or linguistically related to other white people. Strange I know, but I love Finns, good people and awesome girls Tervehdys! There are the Basque people, they are fiercely nationalistic, which in times like this is very good and they live in north-eastern Spain.The Albanians, we do not consider them white and by language they are more related to the rest of europe than Finns, Hungarians or Estonians. Albanian is an indo european language, while Finnish, Hungarian and Estonian are not. Perhaps they only speak an indo european language and genetically are different, but I really don’t know. In any case, culturaly they are very different. There are also the Georgians and Armenians, I’ll probably piss some people off for putting them together but they were among first to convert to Christianity. And, last but not least, the Greeks. Who could forget Greece, where our entire civilisation started? I personally can’t stand the greek language but I sure love the people.

The Enlightened One

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/39 "2012-07-13T18:05:26Z")

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> [@EnlightenedOne](#):
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> The faggots can put 125,000 on the streets of another city.

Let’s be honest: your stay here is going to be short and probably frustrating, but while people are pointing and laughing at you, you will not use slurs like this and you will be out of here that much faster.

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-racist-rant-on-universalism/628121/40 "2012-07-13T18:07:15Z")

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> [@EnlightenedOne](#):
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> I came to spread the word. 14/88

Sorry to spoil the fun, folks, but we can’t keep this one. This racial stupidity is one thing; advocating Nazism is another. Banned.

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