# My rage burns with the fire of 1000 suns. And, you're going to jail. Bitch. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 30, 2003, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577 "2003-05-30T17:25:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Velma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/85e7bf/32.png) [@Velma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velma)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/81 "2003-06-03T15:47:55Z")
That depends. I had a checkbook stolen once, but I reported it right away and put a stop payment on all of them. I did not have to pay for the fraudulent checks, but I had to have a police statement and a notarized document showing it was not me who wrote the checks or signed them. I am not sure if this is something that is the law, or just something my bank did for me. I also don’t know if there is a time limit on how long you have to report a check stolen - once the checks are cashed it might be too late. This did not get me off several stores’ bad checks list, however, as the stores where the bad checks were passed ate the cost, they were not reimbursed by the bank. Even after I was cleared I could not write checks at those stores. IANAL, YMMV, etc. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/82 "2003-06-03T16:02:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bruce\_Daddy \* > \*\*Nope. The bank is only responsible for the checks she cashed/deposited in the past 30 days. It was in my User Agreement (or WETF they call it in banking-land) > > That still adds up to over 1k though, which will soften the blow. \*\* Yep, that’s a good start. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/83 "2003-06-03T16:41:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by hajario \* > \*\*That’s the maximum theoretical sentence which almost never happens. Usually counts are dropped or sentences served concurrently if jail time happens at all. > > Haj \*\* Yup. The little fucking piece of shit who stuck a gun in my side and robbed me (and tried to do worse) got 27 years, and only served **13 months** (plus 5 for time served whilst waiting for trial). > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by astro \* > You did the right thing. The post dated check and promise to pay scenario is classic playing for time MO from hustlers on the make and you have been played enough. Filing charges will focus her mind on getting the situation resolved. It is likely the threat of going to jail and losing her child will make one of her relatives somehow collect the cash._\* You’re correct. Been there, helped with that, and it always seems to work. Una ---
**Author:** ![heresiarch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@heresiarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heresiarch)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/84 "2003-06-04T03:53:09Z")
For everybody that said, “Holy crap! How could you not notice $6000!?” Please ease up on the guy. It started out small and took place over a ten month period. The OP kept track of his balance and didn’t bounce checks - he just didn’t balance his checkbook diligently. I’m the same way. It doesn’t give anyone the right to steal from me. And phooey on those who say he was exploiting a woman for free sex. She got free sex too. **Bruce\_Daddy** , you did the right thing by going to the Sheriff. It’s obvious she can’t be trusted to pay you back without a court order hanging over her head. ---
**Author:** ![Jervoise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@Jervoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jervoise)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/85 "2003-06-04T04:55:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bruce\_Daddy \* > \*\*I can see how amazed people (including the cop this morning) are at the fact I lost that much money. There are several factors which I have mentioned but I’ll go over it again. > > … > > It didn’t occur to me (there’s that phrase again) that someone might be stealing my checks. The only people with access were friends. And yes, I would have considered her a friend since we were somewhat sexual. Imagine an opposite sex “friend” you have known for 4 years and have even hooked up a few times. It’s easy to look at an abstract situation and think “God, that’s stupid. How did he let her get access to those checks!” Well, it was over a year after she began cleaning that she wrote a check to herself and she had been coming over occasionally for much longer than that.\*\* I can empathise. I have a similarly casual attitude towards my finances. It just doesn’t occur to me not to trust people. Luckily, no one has taken advantage of that, but I guess your story will serve as a cautionary tale. I can also understand how you didn’t notice $6,000 missing over 10 months. I never bother to read my bank statements; I only occasionally glance at my ATM receipts. It’s not that I’m wealthy – heck, I was a starving student for five years – more the fact that I don’t like to dwell on money. A few weeks ago I absently noticed my bank balance was $2,000 or so less than I thought it would be. I didn’t bother to check out the discrepancy. For a week or so I ignored it, until I suddenly remembered I had arranged to transfer the “missing” money to another bank. Best of luck pursuing your money. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/86 "2003-06-04T15:15:48Z")
Thanks for the support, everybody. The cops say that they are going to pick her up sometime this week. I popped in on them unexpectedly yesterday and my file was on top of his desk, so I think they’re on it. And to the bitch who did this, thanks for sending me a check with your address on it so the cops know where you live. They’re also having a good laugh that I was fucking the maid. (Insert crude cop joke here) :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/87 "2003-06-04T15:24:07Z")
Wow, I wish I had the luxury of being able to ignore a missing $2,000 **Narrad**. I can’t remember the last time I actually _had_ 2,000 in my banking account. Lucky bastard Now **Bruce\_Daddy** , please please _please_ tell me you’re going to be more careful with your finances. It drives me up the friggin’ wall when people are so dismissive with their money. That’s just _inviting_ something bad to happen. My X was like that, he never wrote anything down, never balanced his books or anything, then would wonder why he was a couple hundred dollars short or was bounceing checks or whatever. I would just look at him, roll my eyes and walk away. If you treat money like it doesn’t matter, people are going to assume that it doesn’t and feel free to take it from you, cheat you, ect. Assuming of course, that you’re not surrounded by 100% honest, trustworthy people, which most of us aren’t. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfgrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@Wolfgrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfgrrl)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/88 "2003-06-04T15:52:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by porcupine \* > \*\*I suspect her promises to pay it back are worth exactly nothing. Post-dated checks are worth nothing. She’s an inherently dishonest person. Call the police. Maybe part of her sentence can be paying you back. \*\* Here in Massachusetts there is legally no such thing as a postdated check. A check is good from the date it’s written - doesn’t matter if you date it for Christmas five years from now. As I found out when I once wrote a check for the day after I would get my direct deposit, not expecting the friggin’ thing to get through the mail before then anyway. I have since switched to online payment for most of my bills. If this happened to me, you’d better believe I’d use that knowledge to go cash the check right away, put her in a bind like she’d done to me, and still press charges. Kid or no kid. If that helped lead to the kid being taken away and placed with another relative, so much the better for him. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/89 "2003-06-04T16:00:58Z")
Now I’m wondering if I should have cashed it. I thought that somehow it would have screwed up my case so I just gave it to the cops as evidence. I know the police aren’t super interested in my finacial situation but when I gave it to him and it didn’t matter if I cashed it or not would he not have said “Um, aren’t you going to cash that?”? I (obviously) can’t afford a lawyer, so I don’t know what in the hell I’m supposed to do. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/90 "2003-06-04T16:07:00Z")
Myabe I watch too many court shows on TV, but it wouldn’t surprise me if she decides to sue you for back wages. I believe you, but I wonder if a judge would believe that she was just cleaning your house from the goodness of her heart. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfgrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@Wolfgrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfgrrl)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/91 "2003-06-04T16:30:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bruce\_Daddy \* > \*\*Now I’m wondering if I should have cashed it. I thought that somehow it would have screwed up my case so I just gave it to the cops as evidence. I know the police aren’t super interested in my finacial situation but when I gave it to him and it didn’t matter if I cashed it or not would he not have said “Um, aren’t you going to cash that?”? > > I (obviously) can’t afford a lawyer, so I don’t know what in the hell I’m supposed to do. \*\* Well, as I said that’s in Massachusetts law. No idea if that would apply to where you are. The law had only just been changed a couple of months before I got screwed by it, which was 3-4 years ago. Luckily I was friends with the bank’s manager at the time so she got it taken off my record and refunded me the bounced check fee. (She has since left the bank and become a stuck-up twat.) ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/92 "2003-06-04T16:34:19Z")
This girl is in need of some punishment, but no way in hell does she deserve to lose her kid over this. Talk about overreacting!:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/93 "2003-06-04T16:49:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kalhoun \* > \*\*This girl is in need of some punishment, but no way in hell does she deserve to lose her kid over this. Talk about overreacting!:rolleyes: \*\* You bring up an excellent point Kalhoun. How exactly is her kid being “taken away”. Is Social Services currently knocking on her door … ummm no. Is the Sheriff coming to remove her children … ummm no. Is the criminal justice system preparing to prosecute her and potentially put her in jail because she decided that it would be an acceptable risk to commit theft, forgery and steal $ 6,000. from someone. Ummmm… yes. She will potentially “lose” her child by being sent to jail. Do you think convicted felon moms should be able to stay out of jail so long as they have kids Kalhoun? How is the system overreacting? ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/94 "2003-06-04T17:15:18Z")
If she has grafted $6000 off of BD, and is able to write a check of $1500, what is she doing with that money? What is her day job? Her son might be better off until she has paid everything off/done jail/and done something for the OCD. And finally > [@](#): > > 1. I am very disorganized. I don’t write checks out in order. If I have to write a check, I just use the first book I can find. I never write down how much it is, who it’s too, etc. > > 2. I hate snail mail. Really really hate it. I would rather check for my daily gift of angry rattlesnakes in the mailbox than sort through that god awful shit. It’s a disorder, I know. Seriously, I check my snail mail once a month, just so the mail lady doesn’t bitch at me. Therefore, the bank statements have historically been very out dated, like 1.5 months old. Even if I had read them I probably wouldn’t have noticed the amounts missing until recently when she started getting greedy (remember, about a 1/3 of the money has been stolen in the past 6 weeks.) You have just been given a **huge** wake up call to organize and pay attention to your life. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/95 "2003-06-04T20:56:20Z")
Astro, I was referring to some of the posters who feel she should lose her kids, wolffgrl, for one: “If that helped lead to the kid being taken away and placed with another relative, so much the better for him.” I personally don’t think she’ll go to jail or lose her kids. My comment was to posters who think this is appropriate punishment. Yes, what she did was bad. But I personally don’t think it’s bad enough to lose custody of the kid. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfgrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@Wolfgrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfgrrl)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2003, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/96 "2003-06-05T01:10:16Z")
My point was exactly what **astro** said - should she stay out of jail just because she has a kid? Is that a reason to feel sorry for her and let her get away with it? No. If she goes to jail as punishment for her crime, maybe the kid will be placed with another relative who’ll be a better role model. I never suggested that she should have the kid taken away _as punishment_. Just that maybe if her punishment (i.e., jail time) causes her to lose custody of the kid, the kid will have a chance to grow up learning something other than how to take advantage of people for a living. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2003, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/97 "2003-06-05T04:42:49Z")
So based on your conjugal relationship and your sharing of your bank account via the cheques, has she made a claim against you for spousal and child support? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2003, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/98 "2003-06-05T05:02:29Z")
Um, I am suspicious of this thread. It just doesn’t smell right. We’re only getting one side of the story here, remember. ON the one hand, we have a woman who allegedly wrote 6,000 in checks that she had absolutely no right to write. ON the other hand, we ahve the fact that a guy who’s supposedly been unemployed and going through all sorts of financial straits as a result, not being aware over the loss of $6000 from his account. Strange. Furthermore, he’s having sex with this woman whom he never really cared for Furthermore, she once cleaned his house for money, and he claims she’s now cleaining it for free. Strange behavior, to say the least. I’m not sure exactly what’s going on, but I have the feeling that if I could see things with an omniscient eye, I might see a lot more balance in the situation than has been presented to us. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2003, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/99 "2003-06-05T14:03:02Z")
Ok, one more time. . . > [@](#): > > ON the other hand, we ahve the fact that a guy who’s supposedly been unemployed and going through all sorts of financial straits as a result, not being aware over the loss of $6000 from his account. Strange. If I had not noticed the money missing, we wouldn’t even be talking about this. > [@](#): > > Furthermore, he’s having sex with this woman whom he never really cared for Since when is caring for someone a prerequisite for making sweet sweet love? > [@](#): > > Furthermore, she once cleaned his house for money, and he claims she’s now cleaining it for free. Strange behavior, to say the least. Technically, she’s not cleaning it at all now. But I didn’t find it incomprehensible that a “friend” would take 30 minutes to take a sweep of the bathrooms and kitchens and straighten the clutter. > [@](#): > > I’m not sure exactly what’s going on, but I have the feeling that if I could see things with an omniscient eye, I might see a lot more balance in the situation than has been presented to us. Why not a brown eye? ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2003, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577/100 "2003-06-05T14:04:06Z")
Damn it. I don’t have multiple kitchens. Scratch that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-rage-burns-with-the-fire-of-1000-suns-and-youre-going-to-jail-bitch/178577.md?page=6)