# My school cut the study-abroad program to Spain because Spain supports terrorism. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 7, 2005, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-school-cut-the-study-abroad-program-to-spain-because-spain-supports-terrorism/293329 "2005-03-07T06:55:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Avenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Avenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avenger)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-school-cut-the-study-abroad-program-to-spain-because-spain-supports-terrorism/293329/121 "2005-03-09T21:42:44Z")
> [@Banquet Bear](#): > > …which, of course, if you had read the thread that you started titled " God-Damned mother-effing coward Spaniards", you would be aware that this statement has proven to be complete and utter bullshit, wouldn’t you? That was **Muad’Dib** too? Oh well, his views are hardly much suprise here then. The OP of that thread was quite the most scummy and despicable thing I’ve seen on these boards. Pit or not, how that didn’t result in a banning I have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![Avenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Avenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avenger)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-school-cut-the-study-abroad-program-to-spain-because-spain-supports-terrorism/293329/122 "2005-03-09T21:45:51Z")
> [@](#): > > 1. Because they viewed the bombing as a result of being in Iraq. Which they had opposed. What’s not clear here? > [@](#): > > 1. So they stood up to one bully. Does that make it right to capitulate to another? What? Who is the second bully? Are you saying Iraqi insurgents carried out the Madrid bombings? ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-school-cut-the-study-abroad-program-to-spain-because-spain-supports-terrorism/293329/123 "2005-03-09T21:47:45Z")
> [@Muad'Dib](#): > > They were neck and neck, are you saying Bush won by a landslied? If I did, would that fit some secret gotcha you’re trying to make? ---
**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-school-cut-the-study-abroad-program-to-spain-because-spain-supports-terrorism/293329/124 "2005-03-09T23:12:04Z")
> [@Avenger](#): > > Pit or not, how that didn’t result in a banning I have no idea. Left wing open-mindness, tolerance of opposing views and respet for freedom of speech strikes again. > [@Avenger](#): > > What? Who is the second bully? Are you saying Iraqi insurgents carried out the Madrid bombings? Islamic terrorists are the second bully. QUOTE=Raygun99]If I did, would that fit some secret gotcha you’re trying to make? [/QUOTE] No, it would just be wrong, Bush barely won, the polls were correct. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-school-cut-the-study-abroad-program-to-spain-because-spain-supports-terrorism/293329/125 "2005-03-09T23:18:36Z")
> [@Muad'Dib](#): > > Islamic terrorists are the second bully. They’re still hunting islamic terrorists in Afghanistan. ---
**Author:** ![Avenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Avenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avenger)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-school-cut-the-study-abroad-program-to-spain-because-spain-supports-terrorism/293329/126 "2005-03-09T23:26:42Z")
> [@](#): > > Islamic terrorists are the second bully. Err, no, they were the first bully. The one Spain are still engaged in combatting in Afghanistan. Iraq was nothing to do with Islamic terrorism, the weak efforts of the US administration to link Saddam to Al Qaeda notwithstanding. > [@](#): > > Left wing open-mindness, tolerance of opposing views and respet for freedom of speech strikes again. Open-mindedness and free speech my arse. I have never defended the ‘right’ of anyone to speech that is racist and hateful as your was in that example. Views so outrageously offensive and extreme deserve no tolerance. If you’d posted a similar thing about an event in America, you’d have been banned in an instant, imo. ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-school-cut-the-study-abroad-program-to-spain-because-spain-supports-terrorism/293329/127 "2005-03-09T23:39:15Z")
> [@Muad'Dib](#): > > No, it would just be wrong, Bush barely won, the polls were correct. And the Spanish party won by four points when some polls showed them slightly ahead. ---
**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-school-cut-the-study-abroad-program-to-spain-because-spain-supports-terrorism/293329/128 "2005-03-09T23:49:35Z")
> [@Avenger](#): > > Open-mindedness and free speech my arse. I have never defended the ‘right’ of anyone to speech that is racist and hateful as your was in that example. Views so outrageously offensive and extreme deserve no tolerance. If you’d posted a similar thing about an event in America, you’d have been banned in an instant, imo. How the on Earth is what I said racist?! Hateful? No. Extremely pissed off and disapointed? Yes. The Pit is the place for angry rantings. You have been here for two years and havn’t figured that out yet? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-school-cut-the-study-abroad-program-to-spain-because-spain-supports-terrorism/293329/129 "2005-03-09T23:58:16Z")
> [@Muad'Dib](#): > > They were friendly when the capitulated to the terrorists by leaving Iraq. I am not sure how I feel about a school trip getting canceled but I do still feel that what Spain did was cowardly and irresponsible and I would personally avoid a trip to Spain because of it. And i’m sure they’d be happy to escape having an unreflective, simplistic, self-important asshole like you in their country. So your decision works out best for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-school-cut-the-study-abroad-program-to-spain-because-spain-supports-terrorism/293329/130 "2005-03-10T03:13:10Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Monstre, tell me you didn’t go to Tudela! We get quite a few exchange students here 🙂 Nope – it was Ejea. (“Ejea de los Caballeros”). Is that close to you? I went with a program called Spanish Heritage (or Herencia Espanol). Big group flew over to Madrid, had a tour of that city and stayed in a hotel overnight. Next day they shipped us off to our respective host families all over the country. Mine was a 3 hour train ride to Zaragoza, where family picked me up, then a car trip (about an hour I think) to Ejea. The father was a history teacher, and I ended up seeing lots of old castle ruins (several car trips), as well as El Pilar in Zaragoza (got a picture from one of the high towers, overlooking the Ebro). And other fun stuff. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-school-cut-the-study-abroad-program-to-spain-because-spain-supports-terrorism/293329.md?page=6)