# My son doesn't start school until Monday and I already hate a parent

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 9, 2007, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020 "2007-08-09T15:03:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![TommyTutone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@TommyTutone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TommyTutone)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/1 "2007-08-09T15:03:32Z")

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At the school today with the wife and kid, signing him up for lunch, seeing his bus schedule, etc. Monday is his first day at kindergarten and we are very excited and proud to see our only son getting ready to move on from pre-k to this new school.

In his future classroom, we met his teacher and chatted for a bit, and I sat and filled out paperwork needed for the new year. As I sat, I heard another parent introduce himself to the teacher (there were probably a half dozen in the room when we were there) and closed with the statement ‘oh, you probably heard about me, I’m the parent that you all are going to hate’.

My interest was piqued by this so I continued to listen and he apparently mentioned that he caused, or is trying to cause, an amendment to be passed so that evolution is not mentioned in the educational system. The teacher mentioned that the kids are far too young to go over that still, but he was offended because there was a poster in the hallway that had the phrase ‘millions of years ago’ and that ‘evolution is just another religion’. It was only proper manners that I didn’t jump down his throat at that point to see what the hell kind of backwoods upbringing he had to learn this and why he felt the need to pass off his fallacies to others.

Still, we have a non-kid, parent only meeting tonight at the school, and if he is there, and I am there, and he brings it up, I may not be so polite.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/2 "2007-08-09T15:11:57Z")

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Why bother hating him? Why not just have him killed right now?

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**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/3 "2007-08-09T15:16:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
Why bother hating him? Why not just have him killed right now?  
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Its futile, is inferior genetic makup has already spawned a new copy futher diluting the intellectual growth of our species.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/4 "2007-08-09T15:30:13Z")

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[QUOTE=drachillix]  
Its futile, is inferior genetic makup has already spawned a new copy futher diluting the intellectual growth of our species.  
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Why would God do such a thing?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/5 "2007-08-09T15:30:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
Why not just have him killed right now?  
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Oh yeah, like he can do that now, after your post. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Jayn\_Newell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Jayn\_Newell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayn_Newell)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/6 "2007-08-09T15:31:21Z")

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[QUOTE=drachillix]  
Its futile, is inferior genetic makup has already spawned a new copy futher diluting the intellectual growth of our species.  
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But evolution doesn’t exist, so it’s not going to affect anything 😉

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/7 "2007-08-09T15:31:57Z")

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I’m on the same page with **Otto**. Hell, at the very least, I’d go home and everyday drill into my child’s head, “Evolution is science, not religion, and don’t ever let anyone tell you different.”

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/8 "2007-08-09T15:32:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
Why bother hating him? Why not just have him killed right now?  
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Because ‘dissection’ isn’t until 7th grade…?

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/9 "2007-08-09T15:36:18Z")

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Do you hear that, **TommyTutone?** It’s a faint, distant siren…warning us to evacuate the South while we still can…for the kids’ sake… 😛 :mad:

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/10 "2007-08-09T15:43:50Z")

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[QUOTE=drachillix]  
Its futile, is inferior genetic makup has already spawned a new copy futher diluting the intellectual growth of our species.  
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Why do I hear this in my head with an old-school Cylon voice?  
[sub]by your command[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/11 "2007-08-09T15:46:36Z")

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Either I misunderstood what separation of church and state meant, or public schools are not part of the state. Somebody pick one.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/12 "2007-08-09T15:57:00Z")

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[QUOTE=drachillix]  
Its futile, is inferior genetic makup has already spawned a new copy futher diluting the intellectual growth of our species.  
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Ask the hitman about his two-for-one Back To School Days Specials.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/13 "2007-08-09T15:57:55Z")

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You should have gotten up and said, “I am starting a petition also. I noticed a lot of globes, practically in every classroom. This is ridiculous, the earth is just as likely to be flat and I think it is irresponsible to expose children to such a one-sided view.”

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/14 "2007-08-09T16:04:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Telperien]  
Either I misunderstood what separation of church and state meant, or public schools are not part of the state. Somebody pick one.  
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The way anti-evolution advocates (to use the most neutral term I can) and similar ilk see it, the state is prevented from interfering with the church, but there is nothing about the church being prevented from interfering with the state.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/15 "2007-08-09T16:05:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
Why bother hating him? Why not just have him killed right now?  
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He’s fur-bearing. You need a permit.

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**Author:** ![TommyTutone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@TommyTutone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TommyTutone)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/16 "2007-08-09T16:08:58Z")

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[QUOTE=OneCentStamp]  
Do you hear that, **TommyTutone?** It’s a faint, distant siren…warning us to evacuate the South while we still can…for the kids’ sake… 😛 :mad:  
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I fully expect and welcome all jokes relating to the south, but I thought, THOUGHT, that I lived in a decent enough suburb that this shit wouldn’t come up. I guess I should count my blessings that it is just one parent and not the other way around with me being the only one not calling dinosaurs ‘Jeebus horses’.

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/17 "2007-08-09T16:11:06Z")

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[QUOTE=TommyTutone]  
I fully expect and welcome all jokes relating to the south, but I thought, THOUGHT, that I lived in a decent enough suburb that this shit wouldn’t come up. I guess I should count my blessings that it is just one parent and not the other way around with me being the only one not calling dinosaurs ‘Jeebus horses’.  
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Hey, I only make it as a gentle jest at a fellow Southerner (Houston may be in Texas, but I’m closer to Louisiana than to Dallas!). 🙂

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**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/18 "2007-08-09T16:13:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Bosstone]  
The way anti-evolution advocates (to use the most neutral term I can) and similar ilk see it, the state is prevented from interfering with the church, but there is nothing about the church being prevented from interfering with the state.  
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Fighting fair isn’t one of their teachings, I suppose.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/19 "2007-08-09T16:16:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Bosstone]  
The way anti-evolution advocates (to use the most neutral term I can) and similar ilk see it, the state is prevented from interfering with the church, but there is nothing about the church being prevented from interfering with the state.  
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Actually, as they see it, evolution is itself a religious doctrine, and by teaching it, schools are endorsing a kind of religion of “secular humanism” and “naturalism”.

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-son-doesnt-start-school-until-monday-and-i-already-hate-a-parent/415020/20 "2007-08-09T16:20:39Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
I’m on the same page with **Otto**. Hell, at the very least, I’d go home and everyday drill into my child’s head, “Evolution is science, not religion, and don’t ever let anyone tell you different.”  
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Please tell me I’m being whooshed here, right? **Indoctrinating** your kids into believing evolution is science is a thousand times more stupid than believing it’s a religion

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