# My stupid county banned e-cigs indoors today :(

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-stupid-county-banned-e-cigs-indoors-today/697488>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 4, 2014, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-stupid-county-banned-e-cigs-indoors-today/697488 "2014-09-04T16:01:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-stupid-county-banned-e-cigs-indoors-today/697488/101 "2014-10-17T15:56:36Z")

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> [@GrumpyBunny](#):
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> Uh, probably not. My inhaler doesn’t contain metals and fine particulates, as second-hand vape mist does. [Source](http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/129/19/1972.full#sec-6).

Not to mention the contents have not been set on fire. It is entirely possible that if you set a match to the liquid in your inhaler, the resultant vapor could cause an asthma attack, because the heat would act as a catalyst to transform at least some of the chemicals into something else.

Caveat: I had chemistry 31 years ago, and I don’t know what exactly is in an inhaler, as far as the inactive ingredients go-- but I still think it’s a safe guess.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-stupid-county-banned-e-cigs-indoors-today/697488/102 "2014-10-17T16:17:03Z")

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> [@PunditLisa](#):
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> I agree with jsgoddess that the burden should fall on the vaping industry to prove their safety, both to people who use them directly and those who will inhale second hand residuals.

Just to be clear, I think the burden does and will fall on the vaping industry, because their product simply looks too much like a very dangerous product, so they are under greater scrutiny.

I don’t know, philosophically, that I think it _should_ fall that way. I’m speaking more practically. Generally, I think I’m more aligned with people who think you should prove something is dangerous rather than proving it’s safe, mostly because the former should be easier than the latter.

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-stupid-county-banned-e-cigs-indoors-today/697488/103 "2014-10-17T16:22:06Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Yes, please. Or at least for people who think that if a drop is good, immersing oneself in a 55 gallon drum of the stuff is better.

IME, the worst perfume abusers are smokers, who think it covers up the reek of stale smoke, which it doesn’t. I don’t like smelling people who smell like dirty ashtrays, but I like smelling people who smell like a dirty ashtray that has has an inch of perfume poured into it even less.

PERFUME AND COLOGNE DO NOT ERASE THE SMELL OF CIGARETTES. THEY DO NOT EVEN MASK IT. THEY MINGLE WITH IT TO PRODUCE SOMETHING MORE VILE THAN EITHER SCENT ALONE.

There’s a PSA that needs to get made.

Personally, I don’t mind normal BO, which is to say, the way someone who showered in the morning smells after a long day, or the way my husband smells in the morning before he showers, or the way someone with generally good hygiene smells after a workout. I would much rather smell that than any perfume designed to mask normal body odors. And spraying yourself with Axe is not the equivalent of taking a shower.

However, if someone knows how to use perfume or aftershave the way it is supposed to be used I can live with it. Workplace rules about scents might be the result of one hypersensitive person who can’t be around anything, but more often, they are a “one person shits his pants, everyone wears a diaper” rule. One person doesn’t understand moderation, or the correct way to wear perfume, and stinks up the place. Yes, there is a correct way. You don’t wear your underwear on your head, and you don’t use more than a couple of drops (or one spritz from an atomizer) of scent.

Personally, I don’t normally wear perfume, but when I have worked with Deaf-blind people, I whipped up something in the kitchen with essential oils and alcohol. We had one person with a very sensitive nose, and low language, and she could find people when we all had our own scents. I used it really, really sparingly, and the one person I knew who was very sensitive said it didn’t bother her. I asked her directly, because I had to deal with her at shul twice a week, and one day was the same day I was with the DB clients, and I asked if I needed to go home and shower. She said no. I used to put one drop one my hands, and run my hands over my hair, then wash my hands.

I haven’t used a scent since I stopped working for that agency, though. I really don’t like them.

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-stupid-county-banned-e-cigs-indoors-today/697488/104 "2014-10-17T18:41:40Z")

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> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> Not to mention the contents have not been set on fire. It is entirely possible that if you set a match to the liquid in your inhaler, the resultant vapor could cause an asthma attack, because the heat would act as a catalyst to transform at least some of the chemicals into something else.
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> Caveat: I had chemistry 31 years ago, and I don’t know what exactly is in an inhaler, as far as the inactive ingredients go-- but I still think it’s a safe guess.

Probably. But they did take out the CFC propellant a few years back, so it \*must \*be safer now. [/sarcasm] (Of course, it also isn’t as effective…)

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