# My Surgeon committed a murder **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 3, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-surgeon-committed-a-murder/773739 "2016-12-03T16:20:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![andrea\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@andrea\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andrea_green)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-surgeon-committed-a-murder/773739/1 "2016-12-03T16:20:24Z")
[Eighteen months ago](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=751884), I was [diagnosed](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=753218) with a herniated disk that required a microdiscectomy procedure which was performed by a world-class Yale-educated neurosurgeon. This morning, my surgeon was officially charged with 1st Degree murder in the strangulation death of his physician wife: [https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/12/02/toronto-neurosurgeon-charged-with-murder-of-doctor-wife.html](https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/12/02/toronto-neurosurgeon-charged-with-murder-of-doctor-wife.html) In every interaction I had with the man he was nothing but kind, compassionate, meticulous and helpful. This news is absolutely surreal. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-surgeon-committed-a-murder/773739/2 "2016-12-03T16:31:30Z")
> [@andrea\_green](#): > > In every interaction I had with the man he was nothing but kind, compassionate, meticulous and helpful. And he’s single! ---
**Author:** ![CerebrAl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@CerebrAl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CerebrAl)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-surgeon-committed-a-murder/773739/3 "2016-12-03T16:54:29Z")
> [@andrea\_green](#): > > In every interaction I had with the man he was nothing but kind, compassionate, meticulous and helpful. This news is absolutely surreal. I’m guessing you never met his wife… You said… > [@](#): > > **My Surgeon committed a murder** … This is not true, your surgeon is but accused of a murder and officially charged with a murder. This does not mean he committed any crime. To be continued… ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-surgeon-committed-a-murder/773739/4 "2016-12-03T17:01:33Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > And he’s single! Bravo! One of the best comments ever on the Dope. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-surgeon-committed-a-murder/773739/5 "2016-12-03T17:08:49Z")
OTOH, single =/= available. ---
**Author:** ![andrea\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@andrea\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andrea_green)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-surgeon-committed-a-murder/773739/6 "2016-12-03T17:21:25Z")
> [@CerebrAl](#): > > You said… > This is not true, your surgeon is but accused of a murder and officially charged with a murder. This does not mean he committed any crime. > > To be continued… I am able to make statements that the media and police cannot. Unfortchunstrly in this case it seems abundently clear that the good doctor is almost-certainly guilty. Circumstantial evidence includes: - it is reported his wife had prepared divorce papers earlier in the week and had discussed looking forward to her new life of freedom - police had been called to the house before for domestic issues - neighbors heard loud argument the night of the murder - carpets were missing from family home that the surgeon continued to reside in for days following his wife’s death - police (from a major and reputable force) felt they had enough evidence to charge a well-respected and powerful person with first degree murder (somewhat unusual for something like this I think) just days after the incident, clearly no doubt in their minds In other news, the head of the KKK (and prominent Trump supporter) David Duke has already chimed in to blame the interracial marriage for the tragedy: [x.com](https://twitter.com/drdavidduke/status/805071256525701120) ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-surgeon-committed-a-murder/773739/7 "2016-12-03T17:28:57Z")
Sounds like a case I’m familiar with in Bangkok. One doctor murdered his doctor wife. They were in the middle of a nasty divorce, and she was taking him to the cleaners. By all accounts, this was a kind, compassionate doctor, and no one who knew him could believe him capable of such a thing. We didn’t know him ourselves but had mutual friends, and they were all shocked. He was a fertility doctor, a good one, and a lot of couples he’d helped stood witness for him at trial. It was an odd case. He was staying in the same university faculty housing building we stayed in when we were first married, although this was after we’d moved out. But he’d apparently drugged her food or drink at a restaurant in a nearby shopping mall. Video footage from the parking garage showed him taking her to his car – you know, like when you help someone who’s passed out drunk, holding her up while walking. Then he chopped her into little pieces in his room in the housing building and disposed of them at different places. He was sentenced to death, but the sentence was commuted to life after all the testimonials. His wife had been widely despised to begin with, and everyone loved him. He turned into a pretty good prison doctor, and I think I heard he may have even been paroled, although I’m not sure about that. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-surgeon-committed-a-murder/773739/8 "2016-12-03T17:46:48Z")
> [@andrea\_green](#): > > I am able to make statements that the media and police cannot. Unfortchunstrly in this case it seems abundently clear that the good doctor is almost-certainly guilty. Circumstantial evidence includes: > > - it is reported his wife had prepared divorce papers earlier in the week and had discussed looking forward to her new life of freedom > - police had been called to the house before for domestic issues > - neighbors heard loud argument the night of the murder > - carpets were missing from family home that the surgeon continued to reside in for days following his wife’s death > - police (from a major and reputable force) felt **they had enough evidence to charge a well-respected and powerful person with first degree murder (somewhat unusual for something like this I think) just days after the incident, clearly no doubt in their minds** > > In other news, the head of the KKK (and prominent Trump supporter) David Duke has already chimed in to blame the interracial marriage for the tragedy: [x.com](https://twitter.com/drdavidduke/status/805071256525701120) And it’s unlikely a one-armed man could strangle someone. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-surgeon-committed-a-murder/773739/9 "2016-12-03T17:51:37Z")
Based on extensive reading of the true crime literature, it’s a given that when the doctor’s wife is murdered, the doctor did it. Or so Ms. Jackmannii tells me. Hard to believe though…after all, the guy went to Yale. ---
**Author:** ![andrea\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@andrea\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andrea_green)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-surgeon-committed-a-murder/773739/10 "2016-12-03T17:53:30Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > And it’s unlikely a one-armed man could strangle someone. For anyone too young to get the reference: [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/V0NzwpZ.png) ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-surgeon-committed-a-murder/773739/11 "2016-12-03T17:58:58Z")
> [@andrea\_green](#): > > I am able to make statements that the media and police cannot. Unfortchunstrly in this case it seems abundently clear that the good doctor is almost-certainly guilty. Circumstantial evidence includes: > > - it is reported his wife had prepared divorce papers earlier in the week and had discussed looking forward to her new life of freedom > - police had been called to the house before for domestic issues > - neighbors heard loud argument the night of the murder > - carpets were missing from family home that the surgeon continued to reside in for days following his wife’s death > - police (from a major and reputable force) felt they had enough evidence to charge a well-respected and powerful person with first degree murder (somewhat unusual for something like this I think) just days after the incident, clearly no doubt in their minds > > In other news, the head of the KKK (and prominent Trump supporter) David Duke has already chimed in to blame the interracial marriage for the tragedy: [x.com](https://twitter.com/drdavidduke/status/805071256525701120) Nothing what you said links the Doctor to the murder and indeed the last, police thinks he did it is a common cause of miscarriages of justice. He might have done it, we don;t have enough on that. [QUOTE=Siam Sam] They were in the middle of a nasty divorce, and she was taking him to the cleaners. By all accounts, this\*\* was a kind, compassionate doctor, and no one who knew him could believe him capable of such a thing.\*\* We didn’t know him ourselves but had mutual friends, and they were all shocked. He was a fertility doctor, a good one, and a lot of couples he’d helped stood witness for him at trial. [/QUOTE] Might have been true. Murderers dont much look like what you would imagine. And a significant number of murders are domestic or private arguments gone too far. Its chilling, 999 times you hold you temper, the one time you lose it; well observers look at it and realise “but for the grace of God”. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-surgeon-committed-a-murder/773739/12 "2016-12-03T18:08:29Z")
Update on another (unrelated) case involving a doctor behaving badly: > **[Doctor Anthony Garcia Convicted of 4 Revenge Murders](https://people.com/crime/nebraska-doctor-anthony-garcia-convicted-four-revenge-murders/)** > > Prosecutors said Anthony Garcia targeted former co-workers and their loved ones after he was fired from a residency program at Creighton University “When a doctor does go wrong he is the first of criminals. He has nerve. He has knowledge.” - Sherlock Holmes. In reality, physicians who commit murders seem to make fatal mistakes as frequently as other killers. ---
**Author:** ![CerebrAl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@CerebrAl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CerebrAl)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-surgeon-committed-a-murder/773739/13 "2016-12-03T19:49:56Z")
> [@andrea\_green](#): > > I am able to make statements that the media and police cannot. **Unfortchunstrly** in this case it seems abundently clear that the good doctor is **almost-certainly** guilty. **Circumstantial evidence** includes: > > - it is reported his wife had prepared divorce papers earlier in the week and had discussed looking forward to her new life of freedom > - police had been called to the house before for domestic issues > - neighbors heard loud argument the night of the murder > - carpets were missing from family home that the surgeon continued to reside in for days following his wife’s death > - police (from a major and reputable force) felt they had enough evidence to charge a well-respected and powerful person with first degree murder (somewhat unusual for something like this I think) just days after the incident, clearly no doubt in their minds > > In other news, the head of the KKK (and prominent Trump supporter) David Duke has already chimed in to blame the interracial marriage for the tragedy: [x.com](https://twitter.com/drdavidduke/status/805071256525701120) Fair enough…although by the sound of your text, there is an element of doubt (you misspelled “abundantly”… dead giveaway… _pun intended_). I’m not ruling out suicide…just because she was found in a suitcase… ---
**Author:** ![minionkat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@minionkat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minionkat)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-surgeon-committed-a-murder/773739/14 "2016-12-04T00:06:51Z")
> [@andrea\_green](#): > > For anyone too young to get the reference: [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/V0NzwpZ.png) Ha! I thought that would be a picture of Bill Raisch. Now I feel doubly old. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2016, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-surgeon-committed-a-murder/773739/15 "2016-12-04T02:40:39Z")
I saw this story in the local news this morning. My first reaction was “Do I own a suitcase large enough to fit a person’s body?” which was probably inappropriate. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-surgeon-committed-a-murder/773739/16 "2016-12-04T02:48:26Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > I saw this story in the local news this morning. My first reaction was “Do I own a suitcase large enough to fit a person’s body?” which was probably inappropriate. I’d agree with you; with a good bone saw one doesn’t need such a large suitcse. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lisa_Simpson)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-surgeon-committed-a-murder/773739/17 "2016-12-04T18:27:12Z")
> [@andrea\_green](#): > > In other news, the head of the KKK (and prominent Trump supporter) David Duke has already chimed in to blame the interracial marriage for the tragedy: [x.com](https://twitter.com/drdavidduke/status/805071256525701120) I could happily have lived my life without reading the filth in the comment section after that tweet. Seriously I now have empathy for people who are easily squeamish and click on a pimple popping video and go “why!!!? Why did I click that!”