My take on God, if anybody cares.

If I embrace science and all it brings, while rejecting divine inspiration and all it brings, and you do the exact opposite, which of us will be better off in the long run? Which of us will even be around in the long run?

Then your comment wasn’t relevant.

And I don’t agree with madeupwordstocreateafalseequivalenceism. :wink:

I don’t think even the most fervent of religious folk can* completely* reject science. They can certainly reject its answers to some of the bigger questions, but it’s too omnipresent and observable in their everyday lives to ignore completely.

I dunno, that’s a theoretical. I don’t think I could do either.

I couldn’t reject science completely if I wanted to, and I don’t want to. I like some of things it does for me. I like some of the things it does for the world.

Well, I seem to be doing fine and/or dandy without divine inspiration so far.

An interesting hypothesis. What evidence do you have to support it?

Then I don’t think you have an issue with “scientism.” The issue is that scientific inquiry has lead people to some conclusions you don’t like.

As soon as someone can show conclusive proof of the existence of a god of any kind, then discussing that god becomes relevant. Until then, any discussion of gods is a meaningless waste of time.

No discussion is a meaningless waste of time. Just because a subject doesn’t interest you personally doesn’t make it badwrongfun.

That’s what Brian Greene’s for.

Eleven dimensions, parallel universes, but still no room for God. :dubious:

I noticed that NOVA is funded by one half of the Koch Brothers. Not sure what that means.

Are you implying that mathematical models and religion are in some way the same? If you can write them a decent mathematical model for God, I’m sure they’ll be happy to include it. As a bonus, you’ll probably also be the richest person to have ever lived.

It means you’re “just asking questions.”

In practical terms, what is this supposed to mean?

Oh, there’s room alright – god fits in the smallest gaps! – just no need.

That was a cheap shot. I apologize.

It means anything is more appealing than the notion of God. Doesn’t matter what, just as long as denies a Creator.

When looking for things, you tend to find only that which is there, whether you want it to be there or not.

God created the universe by speaking it into existence, so wouldn’t it make sense that God Himself predates the universe?

Only Stephen Hawking knows for sure … :stuck_out_tongue: