# My Town is in the Top 10 Places to Live in the US

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 12, 2005, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161 "2005-07-12T12:17:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/21 "2005-07-12T20:12:49Z")

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Nuh-uh, folks. You may all have your little “\_\_\_\_\_ was a contender” beefs. 😉

But _Mill Valley_ **made** the goddamn list! As I said elsewhere, I’d rather fry my genitals in pickle brine than live in Mill Valley.

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**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/22 "2005-07-12T20:32:08Z")

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There’s something to be said for my [place of residence](http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/snapshots/36327.html)

> [@](#):
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> Leisure and culture  
> **Restaurants** (within 15 miles): 5,298 (My city’s stats) _vs._ 3,431 (Best places average)  
> **Bars** (within 15 miles) 334 (My city’s stats) _vs._ 241 (Best places average)

54% more restaurants and 39% more bars! I guess we’re a bunch of overfed drunks

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/23 "2005-07-12T20:49:51Z")

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Moorestown is #1? I live like 3 miles from Moorestown. Its’ a nice town, but there’s better in the area.

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/24 "2005-07-12T21:00:38Z")

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> [@JohnBckWLD](#):
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> 54% more restaurants and 39% more bars! I guess we’re a bunch of overfed drunks

[Restaurants: 8,329, Bars: 773](http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/snapshots/48477.html)

🆒 \<-still red-faced and hung over.

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**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/25 "2005-07-13T02:00:18Z")

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Apparently I grew up in the 7th most educated city in the US. Which doesn’t surprise me b/c everyone seemed to work at one of the local universities (many).

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**Author:** ![xbuckeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9e8a1a/32.png) [@xbuckeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xbuckeye)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/26 "2005-07-13T02:33:24Z")

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I’m #7! I’m #7! I’m #7! I even put it in my location waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy up there^

I’m not sure what all went into it, but educational opportunities, public lands, proximity to Madison, and affordability of housing were all mentioned as reasons Middleton made the list. Besides, we are “The Good Neighbor City” and have a “Good Neighbor Festival” and the construction project from Hell is almost done.

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**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/27 "2005-07-13T03:32:16Z")

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Hee, since [Detroit](http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/snapshots/32372.html) shows up on all the “worst” lists, I thought I’d see what they had for us.

Personal crime risk  
(100 is national average; lower is better) 432

Property crime risk  
(100 is national average; lower is better) 316   
I feel tougher just having read that! 😉

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**Author:** ![Civil\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d78d45/32.png) [@Civil\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civil_Guy)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/28 "2005-07-13T04:22:18Z")

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Another clue as to the reliability of the list: Yorba Linda, CA ranked higher than Coronado. I mean, yes, Yorba Linda has the Nixon Library and all, but all Coronado has is the Hotel Del Coronado, and beachfront, and cute shops, and San Diego right there…

Er, I don’t think the test is reliable. But congrats to the top rankers.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/29 "2005-07-13T04:38:44Z")

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> [@Caricci](#):
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> My IL’s think Long Island is the best place to live and my MIL can be such a bitch about it.

If you like shopping malls, diners, and assholes with money, I can’t think of a better place to live than Long Island.

People, not to be a dick, but a town in Jersey is #1. And another is #9. Do we really have to go further?

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/30 "2005-07-13T04:49:10Z")

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I’d die of boredom if I lived in Naperville. Think I’ll stay here in the city.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/31 "2005-07-13T04:51:54Z")

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Whu ho! My hometown is Numero 88!

Yes, I think we can safely say that what CNN meant was “Most Boring Places to Live in the US”.

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**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/32 "2005-07-13T09:02:18Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Do note also that Rochester shows up twice on the list…

One’s Rochester, MI, the other is Rochester, MN. (If I recall correctly, this is the same list that ranked Rochester, MN as #1 a number of years ago.)

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/33 "2005-07-13T12:35:42Z")

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You know one of the towns on the list [doesn’t exist](http://www.nbc10.com/news/4712294/detail.html)?

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/34 "2005-07-13T12:40:43Z")

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> [@Queen Tonya](#):
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> Hee, since [Detroit](http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/snapshots/32372.html) shows up on all the “worst” lists, I thought I’d see what they had for us.
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> Personal crime risk  
> (100 is national average; lower is better) 432
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> Property crime risk  
> (100 is national average; lower is better) 316   
> I feel tougher just having read that! 😉

YAY Detroit! Where the weak are killed and eaten!

One day it will be better, but not in my life time.

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**Author:** ![FisherQueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@FisherQueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FisherQueen)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/35 "2005-07-13T13:02:18Z")

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Hey, what do these people have against large cities? I like living in the city. I wouldn’t want to live in any of these places.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/36 "2005-07-13T13:07:27Z")

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Anybody else notice that the winner is _dry_? Puts it out of contention in my book.

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**Author:** ![St.Urho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@St.Urho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St.Urho)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/37 "2005-07-13T13:15:39Z")

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> [@interface2x](#):
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> I live about 10 miles from #3 … does that count?

Oh yeah?! Well I share a zip code with #5. So there!

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**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/38 "2005-07-13T14:13:51Z")

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> [@mr bus guy](#):
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> Like **monster** and **interface2x** , I’m right next to #3.

Me too. We should all get together for lunch one day.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/39 "2005-07-13T14:57:05Z")

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> [@](#):
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> YAY Detroit! Where the weak are killed and eaten!

By the roving packs of dogs.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-town-is-in-the-top-10-places-to-live-in-the-us/312161/40 "2005-07-13T15:09:22Z")

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No city in Oregon made the list.

What are these people smoking???

(But Vancouver WA made the list. Vancouver is solely inhabited by wannabe Oregonians dodging income taxes.)

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