# My uneasy assimilation into the Apple Borg. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 24, 2005, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-uneasy-assimilation-into-the-apple-borg/291772 "2005-02-24T22:22:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-uneasy-assimilation-into-the-apple-borg/291772/21 "2005-02-26T02:34:31Z")
while i freely admit i am holding this grudge langer than i maybe should, i have never forgiven apple computer company for talking me into buying an apple IIc on time payments a month before they announced they were no longer supporting it. nothing like a dead platform machine with a limited amount of available software sitting on your desk eating up a chunk of your hard earned cash every month to sour the relationship with the company that sold it to you. lh ---
**Author:** ![Cheez\_Whia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@Cheez\_Whia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheez_Whia)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-uneasy-assimilation-into-the-apple-borg/291772/22 "2005-02-26T03:40:15Z")
preceded by: Quote: ``` Secondly and possibly even more glaringly, there is no antivirus program shipped with the Mac. In today’s climate of non-stop worms, trojans and viruses, releasing a computer with no virus removal software is irresponsible on the part of Apple. ``` That’s funny. I got Virex shipped with my eMac. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-uneasy-assimilation-into-the-apple-borg/291772/23 "2005-02-26T04:07:20Z")
Yeah, Virex ::snicker:: It’s like Tiger Repellent. When you’re out late in the subway system, whack these two sticks together and you’ll never get attacked by a tiger. Tiger?? WTF?!! I’ve ride the subway all the time and I’ve never seen a tiger! Yeah, well that’s because there aren’t any tigers in the subways. But if there were, whacking these two sticks together would keep them at bay. But…!? how do you know they work? Don’t see any tigers around, do you? ---
**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2005, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-uneasy-assimilation-into-the-apple-borg/291772/24 "2005-02-28T19:00:35Z")
From the article cited above: > [@](#): > > So is the mini a maxi value? For me, clearly, no. When I consider that a good deal of my time is spent running applications like Disk Defragmenter, Scandisk, Norton AV, Windows Update and Ad-Aware–none of which are available for the Mac platform–it doesn’t make sense for me to “switch” to a Mac at this time. This is either a poorly-informed (or deliberately misleading) statement. This reviewer is looking for the same brand-name to be available for the Mac rather than whether the utility is available (or even necessary). Disk Defragmenter = [**Mac OS X automatically defrags on the fly.**](http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25668) However if you like taking a day off running a program to defrag a computer, you can always purchase [**Tech Tools Pro**](http://www.micromat.com/tt_pro_4/tt_pro_4.html) ScanDisk = **Disk Utility** (part of Mac OS X) does the same low-level repair. Just as in the PC’s case, if you are encountering huge problems that it isn’t able to repair, you call in the big guns. In the Mac’s case, that’s [**DiskWarrior**](http://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/) Norton AV = [**Norton AV**](http://www.symantecstore.com/dr/sat1/ec_MAIN.Entry10?V1=533804&PN=1&SP=10023&xid=27674&CID=0&DSP=&CUR=840&PGRP=0&CACHE_ID=175283) :wally Windows Update = **Software Update** (part of Mac OS X) Ad-Aware = The Mac’s vulnerability to spyware is (almost) non-existant. For the extra-cautious, there is [**Internet Cleanup**](http://www.allume.com/mac/cleanup/index.html) On a related note, I would like to add that if a good deal of one’s time is spent running maintenance programs, one has a bad computer. > [@](#): > > Secondly and possibly even more glaringly, there is no antivirus program shipped with the Mac. In today’s climate of non-stop worms, trojans and viruses, releasing a computer with no virus removal software is irresponsible on the part of Apple. A previous poster mentioned that Macs are shipped with Virex. This illustrates another untruth to this review to say nothing that it suggests that all PC’s **do** ship with robust antivirus protection. As I am typing this, I just went to the Dell site to “buy” a Dimension 4700. I didn’t see any notation about bundled antivirus software. The only mention I saw was that when you’re checking out, you can choose to add “McAfee SecurityCenter with VirusScan” for $69. (OK, fellas, you can purchase antivirus software when you buy a Mac, too. [Take your pick.](http://www.symantec.com/mac/) Add this to the fact that (to date) there are barely any viruses that put the Mac at risk. _Sheesh!_ ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2005, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-uneasy-assimilation-into-the-apple-borg/291772/25 "2005-02-28T19:33:42Z")
> [@Hey you!](#): > > This is either a poorly-informed (or deliberately misleading) statement. This reviewer is looking for the same brand-name to be available for the Mac rather than whether the utility is available (or even necessary). The whole thing is tongue-in-cheek. You’ve been whooshed. > [@](#): > > So is the mini a maxi value? For me, clearly, no. When I consider that a good deal of my time is spent running applications like Disk Defragmenter, Scandisk, Norton AV, Windows Update and Ad-Aware–none of which are available for the Mac platform–it doesn’t make sense for me to “switch” to a Mac at this time. Notice he doesn’t say he spends a lot of time on his PC working. He spends a lot of time KEEPING his PC working. Which he doesn’t need to do on the Mac. ---
**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2005, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-uneasy-assimilation-into-the-apple-borg/291772/26 "2005-02-28T20:54:36Z")
> [@Turek](#): > > The whole thing is tongue-in-cheek. You’ve been whooshed. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2005, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-uneasy-assimilation-into-the-apple-borg/291772/27 "2005-02-28T21:41:05Z")
> [@Turek](#): > > The whole thing is tongue-in-cheek. You’ve been whooshed. > [@Hey you!](#): > > :smack: That’s ok, I had to re-read your post a couple times to make sure I wasn’t being double-whooshed. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-uneasy-assimilation-into-the-apple-borg/291772/28 "2005-03-01T01:56:50Z")
Did y’all read their prior articles on the BarbieOS build of Linux for girls, and Windows NO, the successor to Windows ME? ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-uneasy-assimilation-into-the-apple-borg/291772/29 "2005-03-01T05:15:39Z")
Yes, I too am a Podperson! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-uneasy-assimilation-into-the-apple-borg/291772/30 "2005-03-01T05:17:59Z")
> [@ouryL](#): > > Yes, I too am a Podperson! 🆒 Bank account is $250 poorer, pod is uploading as I sleep… ---
**Author:** ![wheelie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b4bc9f/32.png) [@wheelie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wheelie)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-uneasy-assimilation-into-the-apple-borg/291772/31 "2005-03-01T12:24:56Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > Did y’all read their prior articles on the BarbieOS build of Linux for girls, and Windows NO, the successor to Windows ME? How 'bout their review of the [G5 Powerbook](http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/appleweek1.html)? 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-uneasy-assimilation-into-the-apple-borg/291772.md?page=1)