# My unprovoked attack on Mike Myers.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 14, 2005, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678 "2005-09-14T22:28:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/21 "2005-09-15T13:02:00Z")

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Of course Myers was upstaged by Carvey in Wayne’s World. Carvey is the most talented comedic performer alive.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/22 "2005-09-15T13:07:58Z")

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> [@Case Sensitive](#):
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> Verdict: not totally unfunny, but smug and lazy. Needs better writers and more discipline, and probably better suited to sketch shows than movies - somethng along the lines of British shows like **Alas Smith And Jones** or **The Fast Show**. Must try harder, but probably won’t.

I’ll take reasons why Mike Myers pisses me off for $400, Alex.

Axe Murderer wasn’t half-bad. Neither was Wayne’s World. Why? Because of strong direction and discipline. Heck, Penelope Spheeris was able to keep Sean Penn in line. After he hit it big with WW, the studios assigned him directors who wouldn’t interfere with his artistic vision.

He could be great, if he could just be kept in line.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/23 "2005-09-15T13:30:08Z")

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> [@singular1](#):
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> OK, I’ll bite. Which scene?
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> I happen to like this movie, and have it as a go-to when I need a mindless giggle to distract me, so I have no idea which scene you’re talking about.

The part I laughed hardest at was the dog talking to the bear. It was so unexpected that I fell out of my seat laughing.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/24 "2005-09-15T13:55:14Z")

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The OP makes some good points. I’d only add that Mike Myers has evidently been completely paralyzed by the success of Austin Powers; supposedly he scrapped the Dieter movie he was writing because he was concerned it wouldn’t “make a big enough impact on the culture,” or something. He got lucky with Austin Powers (and it was luck; it wasn’t a very funny movie) and now he thinks he needs to hit a home run every time he steps up to the plate. You can’t be a good comic if you’re that afraid of failure.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/25 "2005-09-15T14:09:45Z")

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When he receives his Oscar for the DIETER or ALL THINGS SCOTTISH films, you all may apologize.

“I love ya, Bastard!”

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/26 "2005-09-15T14:10:19Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> Carvey is the most talented comedic performer alive.

I take it then, that you haven’t seen _Master of Disguise_.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/27 "2005-09-15T14:17:36Z")

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> [@Homebrew](#):
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> I take it then, that you haven’t seen _Master of Disguise_.

I have. I actually own a copy, too.

The problem with Carvey’s movies tends to be a horrible script.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/28 "2005-09-15T15:58:38Z")

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I remember one SNL skit where he played an English kid in a bathtub.

Why?

I guess they needed filler, and Second Coming Myers provided.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Bird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Little\_Bird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Bird)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/29 "2005-09-15T17:24:48Z")

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:pinkie to lip: Riiiiiiight.

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**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/30 "2005-09-15T19:23:49Z")

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> [@singular1](#):
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> OK, I’ll bite. Which scene?
> 
> I happen to like this movie, and have it as a go-to when I need a mindless giggle to distract me, so I have no idea which scene you’re talking about.

The news anchor fight with all the cameos, and the short conversation that followed it up. A pretty good amount of the movie struck me as “random and not all that funny”, but that scene pushed forth into “random and hilarious”.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/31 "2005-09-15T19:24:51Z")

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> [@Kiros](#):
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> The news anchor fight with all the cameos, and the short conversation that followed it up. A pretty good amount of the movie struck me as “random and not all that funny”, but that scene pushed forth into “random and hilarious”.

“Brick killed a guy!”

Hee. I enjoyed the whole movie, but that was a highlight…

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/32 "2005-09-15T21:00:01Z")

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I too find Mike Meyers over rated. I did enjoy Shrek, but that is all I remember of his that I liked.

I don’t care for Will Farrel either. I liked Elf, but in general don’t care for him. I _may_ try Bewitched, but only on DVD.

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**Author:** ![Corii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Corii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corii)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/33 "2005-09-15T22:41:50Z")

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> [@Maus Magill](#):
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> Axe Murderer wasn’t half-bad. Neither was Wayne’s World. Why? Because of strong direction and discipline.

I agree with that. I found the Dr. Evil persona in the first Austin Powers movie hilarious and very quotable with friends (one MEEEELION DOLLARS!!!11) but the subsequent AP movies I found much less amusing.

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**Author:** ![BoringDad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@BoringDad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoringDad)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/34 "2005-09-15T23:17:07Z")

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> [@Kiros](#):
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> The news anchor fight with all the cameos, and the short conversation that followed it up. A pretty good amount of the movie struck me as “random and not all that funny”, but that scene pushed forth into “random and hilarious”.

Having gone on the record above as not liking Ferrell, I will say that the anchor man fight was indeed random and hilarious. I liked how it was so completely out of character with the rest of the movie.

Man, I would have loved a Dieter movie.

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**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/35 "2005-09-16T15:31:03Z")

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[“I still believe that at any time the no-talent police will come and arrest me.”](http://www.nndb.com/people/706/000022640/) - Mike Myers.

One can only hope.

Enjoy,  
Steven

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**Author:** ![anamnesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@anamnesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anamnesis)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/36 "2005-09-16T16:17:34Z")

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All this discourse about Mike Myers and yet nobody has mentioned Cat in the Hat? I wouldn’t call myself a fan of his anymore than a detractor … I never despised his performances but he never had me rolling in the aisles either. WW, AP, Axe Murderer were all cute bygones of the 90’s but that Cat in the Hat movie? Theodor Geisel is probably probably still rolling over in his grave two years later. I am speechless when confronted with the fact that his widow oversaw the production of the film (to what extent, I must wonder) and yet it still became the epic trainwreck that it was.

I understand it is probably no simple task to turn a five-minute children’s story into a 90-minute children’s film, but there were parts of that movie that had even me gawking. I know these days Hollywood has thrown morality and decency out the window even when it comes to children’s movie fare, but where does it stop? Myers certainly made no attempt to help by spelling out four-letter curse words and making glaring references to prostitution. I’m no prude, but this material has NO place in a children’s film, much less in one that is an adaptation of a wholly innocent Seuss story. Whether or not kids get the sexual innuendos in that movie is besides the point, because most of them probably do … the question is what they’re there for in the first place, and the obvious answer is that it was Myers’ stupid idea. Before that film, I could forgive and dismiss most of his trademark amateurism, innuendo, and poor timing and delivery and just chalk it up to Mike Myers being Mike Myers, and doing so in an adult film setting, but this crap really put me over the edge and I’ve lost what little admiration I had of him. He insulted the creator and his audience in one fell swoop. What an asshole. He probably hasn’t had much work lately because everyone who saw it realized that his disregard for the intended audience was both a slap in the face to its creator and to the parents who paid to take their kids to see it. The lack of respectable comedy in Hollywood these days is surpassed only by its lack of decency and respect for its audience.

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**Author:** ![snorlax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@snorlax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snorlax)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/37 "2005-09-16T16:40:52Z")

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> [@anamnesis](#):
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> All this discourse about Mike Myers and yet nobody has mentioned Cat in the Hat?

I watched the first five minutes of this the other night, right up to the point where the cat stops himself short while attempting to make a rhyme and says “ah forget it, I’m no good at rhyming”.

I assumed that this was a lazy mechanism for allowing it to be a Mike Myers vehicle and let him do his schtick, and it looks like I was right. Clever wordplay is the distinguishing feature of Dr Suess’s work. It seems Mike Myers’ interpretation of this consists of spelling out swear words. What a shame.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/38 "2005-09-16T16:56:12Z")

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Mike Myers: great.  
Will Farrell: hilarious.  
Ben Stiller: pretty good.  
Dana Carvey: sucks so bad it’s unbelievable.

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**Author:** ![anamnesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@anamnesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anamnesis)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/39 "2005-09-16T17:06:32Z")

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Hentor the Barbarian: Troll who has no taste in comedy, nor willingness to support his opinion amongst a majority of people who all manage to offer more than one-word commentaries.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-unprovoked-attack-on-mike-myers/321678/40 "2005-09-16T17:09:02Z")

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Ix-nay on the oll-Tray, he’s entitled to his opinion. I can only assume he’s never seen Dana’s stand-up show, though.

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