# My wife is in a frenzy of throwing stuff (chametz) out in the kitchen for Passover

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**Created:** [April 14, 2014, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078 "2014-04-14T12:50:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/21 "2015-04-03T15:06:27Z")

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> [@Leo\_Bloom](#):
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> Would Jesus eat some pork butt that would be eventually defrosted after it had already been defrosted and was thrown\* back\* in the freezer to save a few bucks about half an hour ago?

Sure. He had a bad thing or two to say about the “money changers” and their exorbitant ATM fees, so I suspect he was a thrifty sort.

Besides didn’t he coin the phrase “a dracma saved is a dracma earned”?

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**Author:** ![JustinC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justinc/32/8083_2.png) [@JustinC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JustinC)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/22 "2015-04-03T15:16:31Z")

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Any extra points for giving it away, to a shelter or neighbours? Seems a shame to bin it all.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/23 "2015-04-03T15:28:13Z")

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> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> Passover doesn’t end with the end of the Seder. The Seder is a ceremonial meal on the first night of Passover. Some people have another Seder on the second night. But what you should understand is that Passover lasts for SEVEN days.

Which is really fortunate, because my parents can justify attending the Final Four and having the Seder on the last day, instead of the first (it’s still Passover, right?)

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/24 "2015-04-03T16:12:51Z")

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After I made that post, I learned that it’s only 7 days in Israel. In the US, it’s 8 days.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/25 "2015-04-03T16:26:50Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> She was probably just keeping the Passover restrictions in leavened bread (Kosher for Passover), as opposed to what most traditionally consider Kosher

I interpreted it even further than that. I thought he was saying she did it because she was inviting guests, who might look down on her for having even regular non-kosher food.

Also, **Leo** , do I understand that you can’t share your wife’s profundity?

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/26 "2015-04-03T16:35:21Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I interpreted it even further than that. I thought he was saying she did it because she was inviting guests, who might look down on her for having even regular non-kosher food.

That’d be an odd worry, since I’ve never had a guest open my freezer to check what I have stored away. I’m thinking either there is more backstory we’re not privy to, she was being strict about Kosher for Passover, or the old catchall: people are funny sometimes.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/27 "2015-04-03T16:48:53Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> That’s hysterical.
> 
> Happy Pesach!

Yes indeed. Throwing out perfectly good food because your sky fairy commands it is like, [totes adorbs](http://www.feedingamerica.org/hunger-in-america/impact-of-hunger/hunger-and-poverty/hunger-and-poverty-fact-sheet.html), yo.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/28 "2015-04-03T16:53:16Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> Yes indeed. Throwing out perfectly good food because your sky fairy commands it is like, [totes adorbs](http://www.feedingamerica.org/hunger-in-america/impact-of-hunger/hunger-and-poverty/hunger-and-poverty-fact-sheet.html), yo.

Don’t go there. People throw out food for hundreds of reasons every day. Singling out observing a religious practice vs the hundreds of of other reasons is just petty and runs the risk of introducing a religious debate hijack into a thread it doesn’t belong, especially since you are referring to the wife of the poster, not some hypothetical person.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/29 "2015-04-03T17:05:35Z")

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I am perfectly comfortable singling out religious practices that cause people to do stupid, unproductive, or evil things.

Honestly, though, I don’t feel that tossing out a little food is a big deal in the grand scheme of things. But I do tend to have a perhaps overly-sensitive reaction to actions taken in the name of the caveman-level stupidity of religious judaism and other dumb traditions.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/30 "2015-04-03T17:27:12Z")

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Stop the hijack about religion. The tone you’re taking is not appropriate for this forum. If you want to discuss the merits of religion open a thread in Great Debates or The Pit.

> [@friedo](#):
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> I am perfectly comfortable singling out religious practices that cause people to do stupid, unproductive, or evil things.
> 
> Honestly, though, I don’t feel that tossing out a little food is a big deal in the grand scheme of things. But I do tend to have a perhaps overly-sensitive reaction to actions taken in the name of the caveman-level stupidity of religious judaism and other dumb traditions.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/31 "2015-04-03T17:30:00Z")

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Is this what they mean by ethnic cleansing?

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/32 "2015-04-03T17:52:32Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Don’t go there. People throw out food for hundreds of reasons every day. Singling out observing a religious practice vs the hundreds of of other reasons is just petty and runs the risk of introducing a religious debate hijack into a thread it doesn’t belong, especially since you are referring to the wife of the poster, not some hypothetical person.

Most people do not throw away perfectly good edible food for no reason whatsoever - many people do not have the random income to let them just empty half the freezer because of some sky fairy. If I was so concerned about what was in the freezer and pantry just for 1 week of the year, I would probably try to cut my spending and not buy those items unless I damned well knew they would be used up well in advance of sky fairy week.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/33 "2015-04-03T18:23:34Z")

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Enough- I posted **two posts up** to stop the hijack about the merits of the religion. Take it to the Pit or GD.

Warnings will follow if this hijack doesn’t stop.

> [@aruvqan](#):
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> Most people do not throw away perfectly good edible food for no reason whatsoever - many people do not have the random income to let them just empty half the freezer because of some sky fairy. If I was so concerned about what was in the freezer and pantry just for 1 week of the year, I would probably try to cut my spending and not buy those items unless I damned well knew they would be used up well in advance of sky fairy week.

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**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/34 "2015-04-03T18:32:11Z")

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Ah, Passover. The one time of year even the most barely observant Reform Jew suddenly turns Orthodox.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/35 "2015-04-03T18:33:17Z")

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When I was a child we used to babysit our neighbors chest freezer for a couple of weeks every year. They would roll it over and plug it in at the back corner of our garage and then come back for it later.

This generally coincided with a visit to their Grandparents, so I always assumed the travel was the reason. I think the above is a better explanation though.

Funny that bit was never explained to me, as I was taught how to drop by on Saturday afternoons and go stand near the oven. If the lady of the house smiled, I would turn it on about 350 (you can cook pretty much anything at 350.)

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/36 "2015-04-03T18:40:17Z")

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> [@Leo\_Bloom](#):
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> Would Jesus eat some pork butt that would be eventually defrosted after it had already been defrosted and was thrown\* back\* in the freezer to save a few bucks about half an hour ago?

The mob says no (cites as numerous as bacteria). Mr. Obama’s minions say [yes](http://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety-education/get-answers/food-safety-fact-sheets/safe-food-handling/the-big-thaw-safe-defrosting-methods-for-consumers/ct_index). I’ll cut it up and smell test it anyway. Hey, good enough for sausage…?

> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> Sometimes you Goyim are so cute. 😃
> 
> Leo, I hope you’re sitting down. There’s something you need to know…
> 
> Passover doesn’t end with the end of the Seder. The Seder is a ceremonial meal on the first night of Passover. Some people have another Seder on the second night. But what you should understand is that Passover lasts for SEVEN days. That’s a whole week without chometz. I mean, it’s a week of bringing peanut butter and jelly sammiches on matzo to school (and I’m not joking) with you for lunch.
> 
> Enjoy your holiday. 😃

Thanks. But read the dates on the post you cited and on mine immediately preceding it.

On the Internet no one knows you’re a Moslem.

ETA: Somebody let me know if I’m pitted OK?

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/37 "2015-04-03T18:45:28Z")

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> [@SpoilerVirgin](#):
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> Which is really fortunate, because my parents can justify attending the Final Four and having the Seder on the last day, instead of the first (it’s still Passover, right?)

Don’t get me started on Yom Kippur and the World Series.

ETA:\*\* Zebra\*\*'s “ethnic cleansing” is very funny, unfortunately.

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/38 "2015-04-03T18:56:34Z")

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Me: _bursting into room_ Hey man, do you have a dollar?  
Coworker: Uh, maybe? Yeah, I have exactly one dollar.  
Me: Thanks! _pockets dollar_  
Coworker: …oh, it’s that time of year, isn’t it?  
Me: Yup! You’re the proud new owner of all my liquor.  
Coworker: Eeeexcellent. I’ll be over this weekend to sample the inventory.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/39 "2015-04-03T19:13:26Z")

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> [@sciurophobic](#):
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> Ah, Passover. The one time of year even the most barely observant Reform Jew suddenly turns Orthodox.

similarly, Catholics have “Creasters.”

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-is-in-a-frenzy-of-throwing-stuff-chametz-out-in-the-kitchen-for-passover/686078/40 "2015-04-03T20:44:09Z")

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> [@Heart\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> … we made banana bread…As it happens, they’re Jewish, and did in fact mention that today is the start of Passover.
> 
> \<snip\>
> 
> Ah, well. Could they have scarfed it down for breakfast…?

It freezes and toasts up nicely.

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