# My wife wants a baby

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 14, 2014, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058 "2014-07-14T09:32:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/101 "2014-07-16T03:13:05Z")

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> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> OK, I know I’m focusing on the wrong thing here, but what the hell is “light” sexual contact?

Here is where it started:

> **[What to do about neice touching my legs?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=677085)**
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> Hi today I was showing my 5 year old niece Barbie and she was touching my hairy legs a few times. I eventually just got up and said she can sit out the chair and I found another chair. BTW at her house she is sometimes walking around naked. My wife...

I guess it meant a young girl touching my legs and me worrying that I might get aroused. Though I’m not actually turned on by girls who haven’t hit puberty.

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/102 "2014-07-16T03:23:56Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> I used to be on the fence about the whole spanking issue before I had a kid, now that I have had one I realize spanking does have its place…

About Supernanny:

> **['Supernanny' Fights Spanking With 'Time-out'](https://okmagazine.com/uncategorized/supernanny-fights-spanking-time-out/)**
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> Supernanny Jo Frost is pleased that she is the reason 67 percent of Britons choose to put their misbehaving children in “time-out” instead of spanking them

“She believes there is never an excuse to spank – no matter what.”

If you’ve ever watched Supernanny you’d see that she knows how to make a real difference.

BTW you can also encourage behavior you want rather than just discourage problem behavior.

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/103 "2014-07-16T03:30:06Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> I used to be on the fence about the whole spanking issue before I had a kid, now that I have had one I realize spanking does have its place.
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> For mobile but pre-reason kids spanking(bare hand on buttocks) is essential for dangerous or life threatening things…

You could say STOP to them and redirect their attention to something else. (Not that I’ve had direct experience of that)

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/104 "2014-07-16T03:34:09Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Please stop telling him to get a pet. He does not-nice things to pets.

Do I even want to know?

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**Author:** ![FBJJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e8cbc/32.png) [@FBJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FBJJ)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/105 "2014-07-16T03:42:03Z")

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I myself prefer the DINK lifestyle Double Income No Kids

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/106 "2014-07-16T03:44:37Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> …You simply cannot explain to a two year old how dangerous attempting to dash into the street is, but a quick spanking gets the point across. …

Anecdotal stuff:

> **[Spanking for life-threatening behavior - Gentle Christian Mothers Community](http://www.gentlechristianmothers.com/community/showthread.php?t=376262)**
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> Spanking for life-threatening behavior Unprepared for Parenting (Ezzos, Pearls, Etc.) \*Public\*

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> …“I agree with not spanking, but what about life-threatening stuff, like if she runs out in the street? That’s when we spanked you.” I just gave her a blank look and said, “And did it work?” She had to admit that it didn’t. And then I reminded her of how many kid DON’T run back to their parents because they’re afraid of getting a spanking. She conceded it could be true…

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/107 "2014-07-16T03:46:35Z")

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> [@FBJJ](#):
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> I myself prefer the DINK lifestyle Double Income No Kids

Yeah that’s how it is at the moment.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/108 "2014-07-16T03:48:16Z")

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And people wonder why compulsory sterilization ever becomes government policy.

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/109 "2014-07-16T03:56:14Z")

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grude:

> **[Gentle Christian Mothers Community - View Single Post - Spanking for...](http://www.gentlechristianmothers.com/community/showpost.php?p=3345330&postcount=32)**
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> Gentle Christian Mothers is an alternative-minded, evangelical Christian Community for attached Moms.

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> I’ve never understood spanking for huge risk behaviors. I’ve found my reaction of genuine shock and fear to be far more impacting to the kids because it was so out of normal for me that they knew “wow, I really scared my mom. Don’t think I’ll do that again.”

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**Author:** ![FBJJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e8cbc/32.png) [@FBJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FBJJ)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/110 "2014-07-16T04:17:13Z")

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kids are expensive and take up too much of your time

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/111 "2014-07-16T04:29:21Z")

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> [@JohnClay](#):
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> About Supernanny:  
> ['Supernanny' Fights Spanking With 'Time-out'](http://okmagazine.com/uncategorized/supernanny-fights-spanking-time-out/)  
> “She believes there is never an excuse to spank – no matter what.”
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> If you’ve ever watched Supernanny you’d see that she knows how to make a real difference.
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> BTW you can also encourage behavior you want rather than just discourage problem behavior.

Every kid is different, but at least for my son redirection at certain ages or any type of discipline was useless. You can trust I tried a lot of stuff, but it took few spankings before he would catch himself before trying to dash into the street. He had absolutely no care at all how upset or emotional I was, so that was pointless.

Like I said I found it of use in situations where a slip up could be fatal, and I’m satisfied with the result namely a living grude jr.

But now at his age of four spanking would be absolutely useless.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/112 "2014-07-16T11:01:27Z")

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Please, John, lecture us some more about how we should be raising our kids, because I find you a valuable source of practical life lessons.

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**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/113 "2014-07-16T11:17:23Z")

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Is this the only thread we’ve ever had where every single poster (except, obviously, the OP) is in agreement?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/114 "2014-07-16T11:27:40Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> I used to be on the fence about the whole spanking issue before I had a kid, now that I have had one I realize spanking does have its place.
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> For mobile but pre-reason kids spanking(bare hand on buttocks) is essential for dangerous or life threatening things.

While I’m not rabidly anti-spanking, somehow my kids survived and turned out great without it. In situations that may have warranted it, I _just couldn’t do it_.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/115 "2014-07-16T13:21:45Z")

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> [@JohnClay](#):
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> BTW I said that I didn’t want to spend much time raising them. I’d rather concentrate on my job more, etc. She seems ok with that.

‘‘My Dad said he didn’t want to spend much time raising me. He would rather concentrate on his job more.’’

SHE might be okay with that, but I can’t imagine it would be good for any child.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/116 "2014-07-16T13:32:19Z")

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> [@bobkitty](#):
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> Is this the only thread we’ve ever had where every single poster (except, obviously, the OP) is in agreement?

The only others are the single post threads.

If I thought that it would actually make a difference, I’d outline why it would be a bad idea, but I doubt that the OP would actually listen.

This is actually one the second time in my entire life where someone has been talking about having babies and I just want to scream. I was raised by mentally ill parents, and it’s not a pretty thing.

They joke that insanity is inherited, you get it from your kids. And that’s for normal parents. People who have mental or emotional issues can really have difficult times.

As I deal with the mess left over from growing up in my environment, I have to work closely with my wife to make sure that everything is always covered. Yes, I’m functional, but kids can put a lot of pressure on you. I just cannot imagine what would it be like to not have that backup of a completely sane parent.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/117 "2014-07-17T12:44:41Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> Every kid is different, but at least for my son redirection at certain ages or any type of discipline was useless.

Someone once said “When I had no kids, I had several theories on raising children. Now I have several kids and no theories.”

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**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/118 "2014-07-17T14:01:30Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> Please, John, lecture us some more about how we should be raising our kids, because I find you a valuable source of practical life lessons.

Yes, akin to the classic work referenced on _The Simpsons_: “Don’t Do What Donny Don’t Does.”

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/119 "2014-07-18T08:08:08Z")

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> [@TokyoBayer](#):
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> …If I thought that it would actually make a difference, I’d outline why it would be a bad idea, but I doubt that the OP would actually listen.

I’d listen - unless by “listen” you mean obey. BTW this thread has influenced me - I’m definite to my wife about not having a baby now instead of being a bit on the fence.

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-wants-a-baby/693058/120 "2014-07-18T12:33:36Z")

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Even after all these years I’m still convinced JohnClay isn’t real and is someones sock. Can’t prove it though.

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