# My word woman, just take some responsibility!!!! (not Pit-worthy rant) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 22, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-word-woman-just-take-some-responsibility-not-pit-worthy-rant/500637 "2009-06-22T19:37:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-word-woman-just-take-some-responsibility-not-pit-worthy-rant/500637/21 "2009-06-23T16:44:09Z")
Ahhh… Pride. It galvanizes people’s stubbornness, doesn’t it? Usually on both sides. I understand what you’re doing on principle. But, if you have any mercy (if this is her first offense), I’d at least split the difference with her. Also, **runner pat** … clever! ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-word-woman-just-take-some-responsibility-not-pit-worthy-rant/500637/22 "2009-06-23T18:29:17Z")
> [@Lord\_Mondegreen](#): > > Interesting. In Australia we do get the points against our license. The onus is on us to prove that the registered owner was _not_ the driver. Innocent until proven guilty up here, mate. ---
**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-word-woman-just-take-some-responsibility-not-pit-worthy-rant/500637/23 "2009-06-23T18:35:12Z")
> [@FairyChatMom](#): > > And there were flaming orphan puppies on the side Barbecue! :: runs to get the A-1 :: ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-word-woman-just-take-some-responsibility-not-pit-worthy-rant/500637/24 "2009-06-23T20:07:20Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > If a prostitute schools you in sex, do you have to pay her prostituition? That would be ext-whore-tion. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-word-woman-just-take-some-responsibility-not-pit-worthy-rant/500637/25 "2009-06-23T20:53:08Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > That would be ext-whore-tion. Are you saying the driver was just pimping her ride? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-word-woman-just-take-some-responsibility-not-pit-worthy-rant/500637/26 "2009-06-23T21:15:25Z")
There was a new expose about red light cameras in Chicago and the CTA buses racking up huge number of tickets as a result. Personally I found it silly because the cameras aren’t calibrated for buses and they probably trigger them more than they should due to their size and shape (and evidence suggests that a huge number are calibrated badly as a rule). Also, the buses need to merge with the flow of traffic after making a stop and frequently have little choice but to let traffic clear the intersection before entering, much like a the typical left-turn on yellow/red. They just shouldn’t be giving tickets for that, in rush hour traffic would never move if people can’t clear the intersection after the light changes. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Mondegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@Lord\_Mondegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Mondegreen)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-word-woman-just-take-some-responsibility-not-pit-worthy-rant/500637/27 "2009-06-24T00:17:54Z")
> [@Aspidistra](#): > > The good thing about reassigning is that you get another month to pay up :p. I didn’t tell the whole story. I misplaced the original infringement notice because we were in the process of moving house when it arrived. A month later they sent a reminder with an increased fine (I think it was around $30 more). I then did the whole stat dec witnessed by a JP thing and sent it in. When Lady M received the reissued infringement notice it was for the original amount. So two extra months to pay with no extra penalty. > [@Mr Bus Guy](#): > > Except in this case, the registered owner is a school district that owns 112 buses, and there’d be no way for the camera-entity to know who was driving the bus. What happens here if I recall correctly is that if the vehicle is owned by a business, the fine is higher than for an individual. The business can then either just pay the higher amount or nominate the driver. In the latter case the driver then pays a lower amount but takes the hit on his or her license. In the case where the business owner was driving, it then comes down to a decision as to whether the extra fine or the points are more valuable. ---
**Author:** ![Jimson\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@Jimson\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimson_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-word-woman-just-take-some-responsibility-not-pit-worthy-rant/500637/28 "2009-06-24T14:08:34Z")
So let me get this straight…a driver of a vehicle that carriers dozens of minor children ran a red light turning left crossing over at least one lane of oncoming traffic and exposing the bus to a possible broad side collision and potentially endangering the safety of her passengers (assuming there were passengers)… and you didn’t even mention the possible loss of her job… You’re a nice boss. ---
**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-word-woman-just-take-some-responsibility-not-pit-worthy-rant/500637/29 "2009-06-24T14:23:43Z")
The last line of her letter contains my bolierplate "future violations **will** (my bolding) subject you to disciplinary action, up to and including termination of your employment… " In a union environment, that’s about as tough as I can get on a first violation that didn’t actually cause an accident. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-word-woman-just-take-some-responsibility-not-pit-worthy-rant/500637/30 "2009-06-24T15:31:41Z")
> [@postcards](#): > > When caught by a red-light camera the registered owner of the vehicle is ticketed. No points are issued because it cannot be determined that the ownwer was also the driver. In Spain they send the ticket to the registered owner assuming it’s also the driver; you can get out of it if the picture is blurry. I imagine that if the picture is clear, and clearly not you, you have to identify the person. My brother got a fine from one of those cameras once; when a friend told him to fight it, bro said “oh sure, I got a perfect profile pic of someone who looks a helluva lot like me, sitting in my car and talking to my wife, who is face-on. Dude, if that wasn’t me I have to beat someone up!” ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-word-woman-just-take-some-responsibility-not-pit-worthy-rant/500637/31 "2009-06-24T17:16:59Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > For some reason, I thought “Red Light Enforcement” was some kind of anti-prostitution taskforce, and your driver had been running a brothel in the bus. I really was expecting this thread to be a lot more exciting. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-word-woman-just-take-some-responsibility-not-pit-worthy-rant/500637.md?page=1)