# Myspace racist cowards

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 27, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700 "2009-02-27T18:56:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/1 "2009-02-27T18:56:05Z")

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A girl I went to school with posted this as a myspace bulletin yesterday morning. Now, it should be obvious, but I’d better just note that Michael Richards did NOT write this. And to mods: this is not copywritten, nor was it written by the girl who posted it. It was meant to be circulated around the internet for free.

> [@](#):
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> Why is that only whites can be racists??
> 
> This is great.  
> I have been wondering about why Whites are racists,  
> and no other race is…
> 
> Proud to be White
> 
> Michael Richards makes his point…  
> Michael Richards better known as Kramer from TVs Seinfeld does make a  
> good point.  
> This was his defense speech in court after making racial comments in  
> his comedy act. He makes some very interesting points…
> 
> Someone finally said it.  
> How many are actually paying attention to  
> this? There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian  
> Americans, Arab Americans, etc.  
> And then there are just Americans.  
> You pass me on the street and  
> sneer in my direction.  
> You call me ‘White boy,’ ‘Cracker,’ ‘Honkey,’  
> ‘Whitey,’ ‘Caveman’… and that’s OK.  
> But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel  
> Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink .. You call me a racist.  
> You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you… so why  
> are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
> 
> You have the United Negro College Fund.  
> You have Martin Luther King  
> Day.  
> You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day.  
> You have YoHashoah. You have Ma’uled Al-Nabi.  
> You have the NAACP. You have BET… If we had WET (White  
> Entertainment Television), we’d be racists.  
> If we had a White Pride  
> Day, you would call us racists.  
> If we had White History Month, we’d be racists.  
> If we had any organization for only whites to ‘advance’ OUR lives,  
> we’d be racists.  
> We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce,  
> and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.  
> Wonder who pays  
> for that?
> 
> A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but  
> any color can be in the Miss America pageant.  
> If we had a college fund that only gave white students  
> scholarships… You know we’d be racists.  
> There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US.  
> Yet if  
> there were ‘White colleges’, that would be a racist college.  
> In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for  
> your race and rights.  
> If we marched for our race and rights, you  
> would call us racists.  
> You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you’re not  
> afraid to announce it.  
> But when we announce our white pride, you  
> call us racists.  
> You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us.  
> But, when a white police  
> officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug dealer  
> running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a  
> racist.  
> I am proud… But you call me a racist.  
> Why is it that only whites can be racists??
> 
> There is nothing improper about this e-mail.  
> Let’s see which of you  
> are proud enough to send it on. I sadly don’t think many will.
> 
> That’s why we have LOST most of OUR RIGHTS in this country.  
> We  
> won’t stand up for ourselves!
> 
> BE PROUD TO BE WHITE!
> 
> It’s not a crime YET… but getting very close!
> 
> It is estimated that ONLY 5% of those reaching this point in this  
> e-mail, will pass it on.

I commented on the bulletin with this (note I write to my audience; a more relaxed, stream-of-consciousness style that is more fitting for myspace, and my paragraph breaks were removed by their software, so don’t bother pointing out that this is a jumbled mess. Also, I must’ve been thinking of something someone else said when I went off on the “brown pride” rant, because I went back and read, and her post doesn’t mention that term.)

> [@](#):
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> It’s because we were never systematically oppressed in this country for being white. There were never white lynchings, we were never denied the vote because of the color of our skin, we never had to use a different bathroom, drink from a different water fountain, or ride on the back of the bus. It was never “just a fact” that we are animals and not humans. We were never deported, run out of our neighborhoods, or disenfranchised. Restaurants never made us eat in a different rooms, or refused to serve us at all. Funeral parlors never refused to bury us. We were never denied the right, by our own government, to serve on a jury. We never beaten - LEGALLY - for talking back to someone with a “superior” skin color. So black people have BET. Big deal. BET sucks. Do you really want WET? It would probably suck just as bad. If that’s their prize for surviving history, I think we’re still ahead of the game. And, given our position, we should probably keep our mouths shut with dignity, and let the underdogs be proud of their progress, like they should be. “Brown pride” does not bother me because it means “I’m not going to let you hold me down because of the color of my skin.” “White pride” has historical connotations that mean, “I want to hold you down because of the color of my skin.” You have to face the fact that they are not the same term and they do not mean equivalent things. Changing that first word changes the entire meaning. And so minorities commit crimes. So? Are you saying white people DON’T? Face it, nobody is superior or inferior because of what they look like or where they came from. We’re all who we make ourselves in this world, and pretending otherwise just causes trouble for everybody. By the way, Michael Richards didn’t write that.

Now, why does this piss me off? Because it’s racist? No, gimme a break, I grew up in the south, and this girl is from back home-- I expect it from those people. I’m pissed because it’s been over 24 hours since she posted this and I commented it on it, and she has over 300 people on her friends list and no one has said a word. She has logged on multiple times since then, and posted other things, and people have made comments on her page and other bulletins since then.

So I guess the tactic is to run into a room - turn around, bend over, drop trou, and take a huge spraying shit - and then run out before anyone can give you what-for. Fucking cowards. Her and all her friends who read that shit and nod along with their opinions - _on either side_ - and not say a word.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/2 "2009-02-27T18:58:48Z")

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I often wonder, what are they really angry about? Do they feel like they want to be able to be offensive, but society won’t let them? Or do they feel like they are being oprressed when they are called names? Seriously, there seems to be some sort of anger there at something I am not sure really exists at all.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/3 "2009-02-27T19:03:51Z")

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Dump her and block her. What the hell are you waiting for?

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/4 "2009-02-27T19:12:29Z")

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Her mom was one of my favorite teachers ever, and she died a couple years ago, and we still talk about her once in awhile.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/5 "2009-02-27T19:13:01Z")

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Did Michael Richards actually say any of that stuff? And if so, what the hell was he in court for?

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/6 "2009-02-27T19:29:55Z")

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Actually poor whites are the least represented group in America right now.

It’s fundamentally ludicrous to tell a poor white person that they have it better by virtue of being white than blacks. A bourgeois black kid of today is no more oppressed by racism than a bourgeois white kid.

The correct answer is, ‘racists are fuckheads regardless of race’.

Saying that it’s ok to be racist against whites because of slavery is the tyranny of low expectations, which in and of itself is racist.

The OP is racist as well. Black people my age (31) never experienced any of the oppression outline above. They were not denied at the lunch counter, they were not whipped and chained. Yes there are still racial problems, but saying that it’s ok to be abusive to white people because their grandparents and great great grandparents MAY have been assholes to black people is ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/7 "2009-02-27T19:32:53Z")

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Yes, I realize that a black person is statistically more likely to be unlawfully searched by police. (Just to head that off)

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/8 "2009-02-27T19:34:06Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Yes there are still racial problems, but saying that it’s ok to be abusive to white people because their grandparents and great great grandparents MAY have been assholes to black people is ridiculous.

Where did the OP say that?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/9 "2009-02-27T19:43:26Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Did Michael Richards actually say any of that s

[No.](http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/proudwhite.asp)

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> And if so, what the hell was he in court for?

He wasn’t. These people are morons.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/10 "2009-02-27T19:50:03Z")

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**Cisco** , maybe you should post the Snopes link debunking the bogus Kramer quote. Might as well at least fight a bit of hard, factually demonstrable ignorance.

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/11 "2009-02-27T19:58:21Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Did Michael Richards actually say any of that stuff? And if so, what the hell was he in court for?

No, and he wasn’t in court. I don’t know why people make up shit like that. (Though maybe the intent was to imply that Richards was hauled away by the cops. I tell you, the White man cannot get a break.)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/12 "2009-02-27T20:03:57Z")

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> There were never white lynchings

Well, there was the case of Leo Frank…

Just a trivial nitpick. No big deal

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/13 "2009-02-27T20:04:04Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> **Cisco** , maybe you should post the Snopes link debunking the bogus Kramer quote. Might as well at least fight a bit of hard, factually demonstrable ignorance.

[Here you are.](http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/proudwhite.asp)

(Hope you don’t mind my stepping in, Cisco.)

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/14 "2009-02-27T20:08:31Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Well, there was the case of Leo Frank…
> 
> Just a trivial nitpick. No big deal

There were quite a few lynchings of white men – but they were lynched by other white people. In Leo Frank’s case, of course, anti-Semitism played a large part. Which reminds me – that slimy racist screed quoted in the OP included “Kike” as one of the words that “White” people weren’t allowed to call others – so I guess the implication as that Jews don’t count as “White”. Nice. I wonder if that screed was originally from a Klan publication?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/15 "2009-02-27T21:29:05Z")

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“Caveman”?

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/16 "2009-02-27T21:55:45Z")

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Didn’t I hear a response to the “Black History Month” bitching that **every month is White History Month**? 😉

Racists are idiots and assholes. I don’t care who that girl’s mom was- tell her to fuck off and be done with her AND her crew.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/17 "2009-02-27T22:13:12Z")

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People of European descent have a lot to be proud of.

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**Author:** ![Gam\_Zeh\_Yaavor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@Gam\_Zeh\_Yaavor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gam_Zeh_Yaavor)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/18 "2009-02-27T22:39:53Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> People of European descent have a lot to be proud of.

God Almighty.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/19 "2009-02-27T22:49:54Z")

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The thing is that “white” is not any kind of ethnicity or culture in itself. I think the parallel to “Black Pride,” or “Hispanic Pride” is stuff like Irish, or Polish or Italian pride. Specific ethnicities and heritages. “White” is not a heritage.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/myspace-racist-cowards/487700/20 "2009-02-27T22:55:28Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> The thing is that “white” is not any kind of ethnicity or culture in itself. I think the parallel to “Black Pride,” or “Hispanic Pride” is stuff like Irish, or Polish or Italian pride. Specific ethnicities and heritages. “White” is not a heritage.

It seems to me that the same thing could be said about “black” and “hispanic.” For example, it seems that a lot of African-Americans identify with Barak Obama. Isn’t that like an Irishman who identifies with an Italian or a Frenchman?

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