# "Mysteries" that really arent **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 23, 2020, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159 "2020-07-23T21:12:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159/81 "2020-08-01T01:05:35Z")
Good one. Yes, they made the ship “invisible”… to magnetic mines. And that strong magnetic field could have caused some issues among the crew. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159/82 "2020-08-01T03:06:29Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > > [@Richard\_Pearse](#): > > > > My memory is that pilot suicide was a very strong theory with good supporting evidence soon after the disappearance > > Is it possible that you are conflating two different events? Maybe [Germanwings Flight 9525](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525), which was due to pilot suicide. No. I’m well aware of the differences. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159/83 "2020-08-01T13:59:13Z")
One of the dumbest of all asinine JFK assassination conspiracy theories is the one that claims the CIA gave Jack Ruby cancer to keep him from revealing the plot.\* Riiight - the spooks, with access to a closetful of untraceable deadly poisons, decided to kill Ruby slowly, giving him lots of time to reveal the true perpetrators. Makes perfect sense. \*this is one of the goofy theories floated in the book “Dr. Mary’s Monkey”, which features many other sinister goings-on, including deadly vaccines and secret research conducted by a guy with fake eyebrows. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159/84 "2020-08-01T14:02:52Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > with access to a closetful of untraceable deadly poisons Cite? That sounds like a conspiracy theory in itself. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159/85 "2020-08-01T14:44:16Z")
Google saxitoxin, poison dart gun and Sidney Gottlieb. And never, never accept a cigar from a stranger. 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159/86 "2020-08-01T15:01:28Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > saxitoxin [Not “untraceable”.](https://academic.oup.com/jat/article/42/7/e61/5003429) I don’t doubt that various spy organizations use poisons to assassinate people. I just doubt they do it with poisons that are unknown to the rest of the world, and which cannot be detected. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159/87 "2020-08-01T15:48:49Z")
You’re assuming that 1) this test was available at the time of Ruby’s death, and 2) people would have known to look for the stuff. Poor assumptions, Peter. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159/88 "2020-08-01T16:46:30Z")
Of course there are poisons unknown to the rest of the world - that’s why they won’t tell you about them - so THEY can assasinate without even being known about. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159/89 "2020-08-02T00:51:36Z")
The [Bulgarians](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarian_umbrella) aren’t very quick about it. ---
**Author:** ![TCMF-2L](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tcmf-2l/32/16553_2.png) [@TCMF-2L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TCMF-2L)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159/90 "2020-08-02T12:17:23Z")
In 1996 the low IQ (66 when measured after his crime) handyman Martin Bryant went on a shooting spree in Port Arthur, Tasmania, Australia killing 35 people and injuring 23 others. He used a (then legal) semi-automatic AR15 rifle. As a result of his atrocities, Australian gun laws were much tightened. The conspiracy theory is the Australian Government staged the massacre themselves specifically to justify changing the firearms laws. The ‘proof’ is the high body count. Bryant, with no military training, supposedly moved through the Port Arthur resort executing (or injuring) his victims primarily with shots to their heads (fluently reloading when required) in a show of professionalism which would shame all but the very best special forces soldiers. Add in some anomalies in the timing of him moving from one end of the resort to the other plus blurred videos and… It becomes ‘obvious’ the Australian Government staged the whole thing using a crack team of trained shooters. TCMF-2L ---
**Author:** ![pullin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@pullin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pullin)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159/91 "2020-08-03T11:10:06Z")
> [@TCMF-2L](#): > > The conspiracy theory is the Australian Government staged the massacre themselves specifically to justify changing the firearms laws. The ‘proof’ is the high body count. I know someone who believes the Dayton and El Paso mass shootings were “put in motion” by shadowy figures to deflect attention from their already-planned Epstein suicide (the first one). But the events were too far along and couldn’t be recalled when Epstein’s “suiciders” failed. I guess the timeline is right, but the believing events like those can be planned somehow is ludicrous. ---
**Author:** ![Bacon\_Cheeseburger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ebca7d/32.png) [@Bacon\_Cheeseburger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bacon_Cheeseburger)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159/92 "2020-08-09T02:01:21Z")
Unsolved Mysteries. What as opposed to Solved Mysteries? They wouldn’t be Mysteries if they weren’t unsolved. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159/93 "2020-08-09T19:59:32Z")
Epstein didn’t kill himself. Yeah, its pretty clear lots of powerful people wanted him dead. He has already made one attempt. No surprise there that he tried again _and_ no one in power was particularly willing to take much effort to prevent it’, hell they may have actively tried to reduce the chances he would fail. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159/94 "2020-08-10T01:22:13Z")
Tama **m** Shud. Two Ms, no N. Not one correct spelling in the whole page. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159/95 "2020-08-10T08:16:38Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Epstein didn’t kill himself. > Yeah, its pretty clear lots of powerful people wanted him dead. He has already made one attempt. No surprise there that he tried again _and_ no one in power was particularly willing to take much effort to prevent it’, hell they may have actively tried to reduce the chances he would fail. And everything you just mentioned means that he didn’t kill himself. They had a job to do to keep him alive, and they didn’t do it. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159/96 "2020-08-11T21:20:45Z")
Joe Zimmerman is a Bigfoot enthusiast enthusiast. He’s pretty funny. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ttSfCkigPDE/maxresdefault.jpg "Bifgoot Enthusiast") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttSfCkigPDE) ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159/97 "2020-08-11T23:08:56Z")
I don’t think Epstein killed himself either. His alleged overdose in 1967 was a cover to escape to the US where he would be more accepted among the emerging Gay movement. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mysteries-that-really-arent/916159.md?page=4)