# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 100

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/1982 "2011-08-23T01:46:33Z")

</div>

> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
>
> 1. **Texcat** claims that **gnarly** is a Mason.
> 2. **Weedy** claims that he was told **gnarly** is a Mason.
> 3. I’m guessing gnarly will say he’s a Mason.  
> So that’s three people saying gnarly is a Mason to one person (Jan) saying gnarly is a wolf.  
> Forgive me if I think that maybe the one person is lying scum rather than the other three (who’d be taking a huge risk).
> 
> If I were to vote for anyone in that big mess, it’d be for **Silver Jan**.

Nitpick: Weedy says that I am a mason. Doesn’t really change your argument.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/1983 "2011-08-23T01:48:04Z")

</div>

> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
>
> Fair enough. But remember, _mason and wolf are not contradictory._ There’s nothing stopping gnarly from being a scum mason. TexCat could be wrong or lying.

Gad told me that we were both villagers. I take that as mod word that we are both villagers.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/1984 "2011-08-23T01:49:19Z")

</div>

Did you target gnarly? I don’t remember you saying you did. Gad could be honestly relaying the false information from someone else’s power.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/1985 "2011-08-23T01:49:39Z")

</div>

> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
>
> **unvote all  
> vote: Dancecat**
> 
> Looking through these posts now.

Do I even want to know?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/1986 "2011-08-23T01:53:10Z")

</div>

Stuff related to Dancecat:

> [@Dancecat](#):
>
> **vote NAF1138**

Here’s one of Dancecat’s votes.

> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
>
> Here’s my logic (and I’ve used it before):
> 
> SNIP
> 
> **Vote Dancecats**

Here’s Idle’s reaction to DanceCat.

> [@Giraffe](#):
>
> Interesting. While it’s almost too obvious, this fits my pattern of typical scum on Day one (following the action but staying quieter than usual, trying not to ruffle feathers) so well that I think it’s worth a vote at this point.
> 
> **vote Dancecat**

Giraffe’s reaction to DanceCat

> [@Gadarene](#):
>
> **VOTE COUNT**
> 
> Through post #256
> 
> MykBot (2): Zeriel [21], TimeLady [24]  
> Dancecat (2): Idle Thoughts [72], Giraffe [250]  
> Giraffe (1): special ed [51]  
> NAF1138 (1): Dancecat [53]  
> Idle Thoughts (1): Krayz [86]\*  
> TimeLady (1): sachertorte [211]  
> \*make it bold and blue next time tho

Note: If Dancecat is scum, that may explain why some candidates got pushed into the mix above Dancecat.

Krayz (7): Drain Bead [489], Meeko/sangaman [493], Scuba\_Ben [498], Mahaloth [540], Idle Thoughts [706], LightFoot [717], Scuba\_Ben [736], Precambrianmollusc [771]  
TexCat (5): Inner Stickler [473], lilflower [494], MykBot [586], gnarlycharlie [636], Normal Phase [739]  
Silver Jan (5): special ed [487], DanceCat [513], Episkey [617], bufftabby [795], Blaster Master [820]  
peekercpa (4): Giraffe [301], special ed [313], NAF1138 [337], Scuba\_Ben [379], Silver Jan [484], crackedquads [743]  
TimeLady (2): sachertorte [211], Suburban Plankton [352]  
SisterCoyote (2): TimeLady [648], brewha [750]  
Mahaloth (1): bufftabby [564], Krayz [597]  
Dancecat (1): Idle Thoughts [72], Giraffe [250], Normal Phase [497], Scathach [604]  
Giraffe (1): special ed [51], peekercpa [286], Krayz [418]  
MykBot (1): Zeriel [21], TimeLady [24], TexCat [459], septimus [601]  
Scathach (1): GuiriEnEspaña [359]  
LightFoot (1): Zeriel [375]  
septimus (1): Askthepizzaguy [477]  
lilflower (1): TexCat [521]  
special ed (1): SisterCoyote [562]  
Suburban Plankton (0): Scuba\_Ben [572]  
Idle Thoughts (0): Krayz [86]  
GuiriEnEspaña (0): Drain Bead [386]  
NAF1138 (0): Dancecat [53], Blaster Master [520]  
**Folks who voted for DanceCat:**

Idle Thoughts [72], Giraffe [250], Normal Phase [497], Scathach [604]  
Idle, Giraffe, Normal, Scathach. Most of these were done early on, and put DanceCat as the early top candidate. Almost all unvoted.

**Folks who voted for TexCat:**

Inner Stickler [473], lilflower [494], MykBot [586], gnarlycharlie [636], Normal Phase [739]

**Nobody voted for Blaster Master.**

**Folks who voted for SilverJan:**

special ed [487], DanceCat [513], Episkey [617], bufftabby [795], Blaster Master [820]  
[ul]  
[li]So, gnarly is mason with TexCat, and I believe gnarly.[/li][li]Silver Jan was voted by DanceCat and Blaster Master.[/li][li]DanceCat was voted by Idle, Giraffe, Normal, Scathach, and was mostly unvoted.[/li][li]Blaster Master didn’t incur any votes.[/li][/ul]  
What does that leave me?

I think that TexCat and Silver Jan could have been vote-pushed ahead of DanceCat, and I think DanceCat could be the guilty party.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/1987 "2011-08-23T01:54:48Z")

</div>

> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
>
> Did you target gnarly? I don’t remember you saying you did. Gad could be honestly relaying the false information from someone else’s power.

No, Gnarly targeted me. I did not target Gnarly. But both of our full roles were given to both of us. I am sure that Gnarly is town.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/1988 "2011-08-23T01:55:20Z")

</div>

Why was gnarly voting TexCat?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/1989 "2011-08-23T01:56:35Z")

</div>

> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
>
> Why was gnarly voting TexCat?

He thought I was scum. That is why he targeted me last night.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/1990 "2011-08-23T01:56:44Z")

</div>

> [@Gadarene](#):
>
> **FINAL DAY ONE VOTE COUNT**
> 
> Krayz (7): Drain Bead [489], Meeko/sangaman [493], [del]Scuba\_Ben [498][/del], Mahaloth [540], Idle Thoughts [706], LightFoot [717], Scuba\_Ben [736], Precambrianmollusc [771]  
> TexCat (5): Inner Stickler [473], lilflower [494], MykBot [586], gnarlycharlie [636], Normal Phase [739]  
> Silver Jan (5): special ed [487], DanceCat [513], Episkey [617], bufftabby [795], Blaster Master [820]  
> peekercpa (4): Giraffe [301], [del]special ed [313][/del], NAF1138 [337], [del]Scuba\_Ben [379][/del], Silver Jan [484], crackedquads [743]  
> TimeLady (2): sachertorte [211], Suburban Plankton [352]  
> SisterCoyote (2): TimeLady [648], brewha [750]  
> Mahaloth (1): [del]bufftabby [564][/del], Krayz [597]  
> Dancecat (1): [del]Idle Thoughts [72][/del], [del]Giraffe [250][/del], [del]Normal Phase [497][/del], Scathach [604]  
> Giraffe (1): [del]special ed [51][/del], peekercpa [286], [del]Krayz [418][/del]  
> MykBot (1): [del]Zeriel [21][/del], [del]TimeLady [24][/del], [del]TexCat [459][/del], septimus [601]  
> Scathach (1): GuiriEnEspaña [359]  
> LightFoot (1): Zeriel [375]  
> septimus (1): Askthepizzaguy [477]  
> lilflower (1): TexCat [521]  
> special ed (1): SisterCoyote [562]  
> Suburban Plankton (0): [del]Scuba\_Ben [572][/del]  
> Idle Thoughts (0): [del]Krayz [86][/del]  
> GuiriEnEspaña (0): [del]Drain Bead [386][/del]  
> NAF1138 (0): [del]Dancecat [53][/del], [del]Blaster Master [520][/del]
> 
> Five minutes for people to PM me with any corrections.

There, this should have the strike thru

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/1991 "2011-08-23T01:59:43Z")

</div>

Oh, and please see [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14168940&postcount=1672](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14168940&postcount=1672) for my take on the timing of votes yesterday.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/1992 "2011-08-23T02:00:11Z")

</div>

> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
>
> Didn’t someone (an otherboarder, I think) say that in one game there was a wolf who was also a mason?
> 
> I’m wondering if that’s the case here…

YES! In the other game there was EIGHT masons, with one WOLF mason being in the mix.

> [@lilflower](#):
>
> I think that whoever we decide to lynch toDay among **Jan** , \*\*gnarly \*\*or \*\*Texcat \*\*is going to give us some good information, especially in light of **Weedy** ’s claim.
> 
> I have to say, though, that there seems to be an awful lot of secret messages going on in the Night and I have a hard time believing that they are all true. As for **Weedy** , why did he get a message about **Texcat** ’s role and alignment when everyone else just got alignment?
> 
> I’m happy with my vote on \*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*at this point. If he is scum, I think \*\*Texcat \*\*and **Weedy** must also be scum.

If I recall correctly, there was a MESSENGER in the other game which could send messages through the mod to other players. This could explain the “peeks” where “I heard a whisper that so and so is a villager/wolf” come from.

> [@lilflower](#):
>
> To quote **Suburban** : Of course you did.
> 
> I’m inclined to just ignore this for toDay since I think we have a good target in either \*\*TexCat \*\*or **gnarlycharlie**.
> 
> I want to reiterate that \*\*Weedy \*\*is the only one claiming to have gotten a \*\*role \*\*in his secret PM. If we are going to play what doesn’t belong, this is it.

Texcat hardclaims him and gnarlycharlie are village masons who found one another. This claim was not in response to vote pressure being applied to either of them. At the very least:

Texcat IS a villager, and a mason

Texcat believes gnarly is a villager, and knows he is a mason

Gnarly IS a mason, is likely a villager, but could be a wolf mason.  
WRT your underlined portion: There are varying types of cops/seers, and one popular one where multiple cops exist is True Seers. True seers get correct, full information about their target. The full seer’s target was redirected to weedy.

> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
>
> If I’m not mistaken, four players claim to have received messages last Night regarding the alignment of other players…
> 
> **Idle Thoughts** was told that \*\*Dancecat \*\*is a Villager  
> **Scuba\_Ben was told that Silver Jan** is a Villager  
> **Silver Jan** was told that \*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*is wolf  
> \*\*Weedy \*\*was told that \*\*Texcat \*\*is a Mason, and a Villager
> 
> …and in none of these cases did the person receiving the information target the player they ‘peeked’.
> 
> Add in \*\*Texcat’s \*\*info on \*\*gnarlycharlie \*\* being a Mason, and a Villager (received because gnarly targeted him), and we have \*\*\*five \*\*\*players who received alignment-related information _through no apparent effort of their own_.  
> I’m not sure what it all means, but I have a feeling it’ll be \*brilliant \*once we work it all out 🙂

There is a very obvious reason why none of the claimed role/alignment reveals were given to players about whom they targeted. I’m not going to explain it because I think it’s anti-town to do so.

> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
>
> Hey, what the hell is going on?
> 
> I just got caught up. Lots happened since I was away.
> 
> Fellows and girls, before you blow a gasket, please take a breath and understand the following:
> 
> 1. In a game of all night action roles, You are going to get the full gamut of “detective” roles.
> 
> [ul]  
> [li] That means you’ll have normal cops. Naive cops. Insane cops. Paranoid cops.[/li][/ul]  
> 2) This is a game of night-action roles. What in the blue hell do MASONS have to do with night actions? Before you trust ANY MASON CLAIM, ask both masons what their night action power is. And frankly, ummmmmmmmm this is a game with detectives, doctors, vigilantes, etc… we don’t need masons to win the game. Mason claims make me retch with suspicion right about now.
> 
> 1. The scumbags are going to have the ability to send people fake results.
> 
> [ul]  
> [li]Think about it. How many people claim to have gotten results that dropped in out of frakking thin air? Where does that come from? 5 redirectors? How about scums sending out fake results.[/li][/ul]  
> 4) You gotta figure 5-6 scumbags at the very least right about now, to counter all these roles.
> 
> 1. Scummy behavior. Scummy behavior. You catch people via their scummy behavior.  
> Want to make sense of whose claims are fake, either intentionally or not? Ask who is acting scummy.
> 
> gnarlycharlie could be acting scummy. I do not trust him here, but I also don’t trust that the cop result on gnarly is true.
> 
> You do realize that an insane cop is going to be one of the first, if not THE first, roles to get a guilty result, yes?
> 
> SOLUTION:
> 
> Have a different cop scan gnarlycharlie.

Again, there’s an obvious, great reason why none of the peeks are about the players they targeted. Some of the results gathered (not all), can be explained by something not being explored itt. It should stay that way.

There is very likely to be various forms of cops, I agree. We have to be cognizant of that but simply lynching people within the claim for information isn’t exactly beneficial to the village. I’m trying to decide what direction we want to take with our lynch tomorrow, but note that lynching inside these claims isn’t a must, in fact I would be more comfortable lynching outside of it.

Additionally, the wolves will help resolve these claims. They can’t let 5 people who are getting results from other players and clearing one another all remain alive. We’ll know more by Wednesday.

> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
>
> This. Bingo.
> 
> They could be 5 Oracles, or whatever they’re called. They investigate folks but the results go out to random people, not to the cops themselves.

Oracles didn’t work that way in the other game. When an oracle died, the results of his/her last target were exposed in the thread. For example, let’s say:

I’m an oracle, last night, I targeted player X

Today I end up getting lynched

When I die and the mod reveals my power, he also reveals the role PM of the player I targeted last night. It doesn’t matter whether or not my target is still alive in the game. So player X’s true role PM would have been posted in game.

That’s at least how it worked in the last game. Could very well be different here, and oracles may not even exist.

> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
>
> **unvote all**  
> **vote: texCat** for now.
> 
> I don’t trust the mason claim, and lynching TexCat will yield useful information both on the other 3 (all likely innocent if she’s guilty) and her claimed mason partner (50% chance they’re guilty if she is)
> 
> All aboard the TexCat wagon! We gots to spare Scuba!

NO. Texcat is the clearest villager of all the claims, because:

He claimed without reason, without pressure, and his mason buddy also was not in danger.

Another player also claimed Texcat to be a villager.

Texcat’s mason (gnarly) will almost certainly also claim Texcat is a villager.

> [@TexCat](#):
>
> At some point Gnarly is going to show up and confirm that we are masons. So either we are both scum or neither scum, Pizza.
> 
> a and b) Charlie shared his PM info with me. He received a PM last night that indicated someone had targeted him.
> 
> I did not target Charlie last night.

This is also unfortunately not true. Both of you could be (and I believe that you are) masons, but being masons does not make you villagers.

You’re almost certainly a villager because someone else has claimed you as one, but gnarly could be a wolf mason. Wolf mason’s existed in the other game, do not discount their presence in this one.

If we lynch inside of these claims. We lynch **gnarly**. Gnarly can very well be both a mason and a wolf. This role existed in the last game.

Texcat is clearest

Gnarly is the least clear

Everyone else is in between.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/1993 "2011-08-23T02:02:18Z")

</div>

holy sheeps (sorry **hal** ). eye sure hope that **gad** gets in here an stops this nonsense. because even polly can’t figure out what you are going on about. aaaarrrrrrrhhhhhhhh.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/1994 "2011-08-23T02:03:12Z")

</div>

Another thing that I forgot to address:

That texcat claims him and gnarly shared role pms

A) This is probably not allowed, and may you get modkilled

B) If it occurred and both players were honest, gnarly is very clear

C) If gnarly is a wolf (which is possible), he edited his role pm to deceive texcat.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/1995 "2011-08-23T02:03:48Z")

</div>

> [@crackedquads](#):
>
> If we lynch inside of these claims. We lynch **gnarly**. Gnarly can very well be both a mason and a wolf. This role existed in the last game.
> 
> Texcat is clearest
> 
> Gnarly is the least clear
> 
> Everyone else is in between.

No, gnarly is the only one who got a guilty result. Given all these cop/oracle whatevers, at LEAST two of them are supposed to be giving off mostly guilty results.

Since we only got 1/5 guilty results, gnarlycharlie is the most cleared out of all of them.

Go for the innocent results, one of them has to be a lie.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/1996 "2011-08-23T02:05:05Z")

</div>

Of all the claims in the \*\*gnarlyWeedyTexJan \*\*morass, the one that seems the most suspicious is \*\*Weedy’s \*\*reveal of **TexCat**. Weedy claims to have received a message saying that TexCat is a Villager and a Mason, which is one piece of information more than anyone else received.

So does this mean that TexCat is Wolf, and he or one of his Wolf buddies sent the message? Or does it mean that Weedy is a Wolf, and is making the whole thing up?

I think it’s more likely that TexCat is on the level, that \*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*is Town, that **Silver Jan** received false information, and that Weedy made up his message and mistakenly included too much information. What I can’t figure out is why he would have done such a thing, since he’s not likely to gain any Town cred for being on the receiving end of an anonymous tip.

On Preview it looks like there were about 2 dozen new posts while I was composing this. I’m posting it anyway. Hopefully nothing in recent posts makes this one look stupid.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/1997 "2011-08-23T02:05:11Z")

</div>

> [@crackedquads](#):
>
> t.
> 
> NO. Texcat is the clearest villager of all the claims, because:
> 
> **He claimed without reason, without pressure** , and his mason buddy also was not in danger

Just an aside here: On the dope, players are usually found suspicious (and voted for) for this, not found “cleared”.

More proof that our cultures couldn’t be more different. 😛

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/1998 "2011-08-23T02:05:32Z")

</div>

> [@crackedquads](#):
>
> Another thing that I forgot to address:
> 
> That texcat claims him and gnarly shared role pms
> 
> A) This is probably not allowed, and may you get modkilled
> 
> B) If it occurred and both players were honest, gnarly is very clear
> 
> C) If gnarly is a wolf (which is possible), he edited his role pm to deceive texcat.

Let me just repeat that Gad told me that gnarly is a villager. I am 99.9% positive that gnarly is town.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/1999 "2011-08-23T02:05:36Z")

</div>

wonder what **mykbot** will have to say once he gets released from no posting hell. probably a couple of posts of some sort.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2000 "2011-08-23T02:07:38Z")

</div>

I encourage you guys to at least read the mod posts from the last game. I know the game is long and it requires some degree of effort but it could significantly help you guys who aren’t used to pog games get a grasp on what mechanics and roles do/can exist in this game. After all, this game was designed with the pog game as a foundation, so don’t simply expect this game to adhere to dope board standards.

Here’s the link:  
[http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59/puzzles-other-games/mystery-mash-may-23-ww-game-thread-1041064/](http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59/puzzles-other-games/mystery-mash-may-23-ww-game-thread-1041064/)

Just search for all the “Mystery Mod” posts for cliff notes. After the game ends, a player named ‘Rebonkulous’ explains some of the mechanics and posts a lists of all the roles in the game (in post 4923). Read that list, understand the roles. Don’t post role pm’s from that game into this one, gadarene said not to.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2001 "2011-08-23T02:09:28Z")

</div>

I would personally love it if everyone unvoted and we started this thing from scratch, and the only 5 candidates for lynch would be TexCat, Gnarlycharlie, DanceCat, Blaster, and Silver Jan.

Of those:

1. DanceCat (seemed to be spared via voting)
2. Blaster (didn’t get voted)
3. Silver Jan (was voted by DanceCat and Blaster)
4. TexCat (the more suspicious of the two masons, IMO)
5. Gnarlycharlie (cleared via being the one guilty result out of 5 results, has others corroborating this story)

**are the folks i’d kill, and in that order.**

I’d like folks to at least weigh in on this hypothetical even if they don’t switch their votes. But that’s if I had my way. Nobody ever listens to me when I ask this VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=99)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=101)
