# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 106
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2102 "2011-08-23T05:00:35Z")
I recommend being scanned by cops even though I am innocent because I think my affiliation will be shown sooner than later. At some point, town will have to lynch either GnarlyCharlie or me. And then the cop results will be proven. I definitely recommend not lynching either of us today, but will be willing to fall under the hammer toMorrow if it will give town some real results. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2103 "2011-08-23T05:02:58Z")
Still, having info on folks that are likely to be scum is more important because the scums will not target themselves for murder, therefore regardless of guilt or innocence, your results will likely be of some use before you have to lynch the suspect, and could dissuade you from doing so. It’s a minor point but like chess, a good move is inferior to a better one, and I’m not sure scanning townies is superior to scanning scum. I think that’s not true. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2104 "2011-08-23T05:04:05Z")
> [@Weedy](#): > > I have 2 minutes here, and still haven’t read most of the thread, but I saw some chithcat about cops. Has Texact said who she targeted last night? I thought that maybe I got the info about her because she targeted me/Hirka. The weird thing there being why would she do that when Hirka only had one post. But I don’t think it was neceassarily a cop peek of any variety that told me she is a mason. No, I haven’t said who I targeted either N1 or N0, but will confirm that it was not you or Hirka. I have received no results from my targets. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2105 "2011-08-23T05:16:56Z")
Also, I’d still be willing to lynch **Brewha**. 😉 Just in case you guys are getting a headache from the whole detective/deduction aspect of the game. We could just go back to lynching scummy people for being scummy. Novel concept, but I digress. We apparently want to play the rely-on-power-roles game, so let’s doo eet. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2106 "2011-08-23T05:25:35Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Also, I’d still be willing to lynch **Brewha**. 😉 > > Just in case you guys are getting a headache from the whole detective/deduction aspect of the game. We could just go back to lynching scummy people for being scummy. Novel concept, but I digress. We apparently want to play the rely-on-power-roles game, so let’s doo eet. And I am still willing to lynch Inner or lilflower. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2107 "2011-08-23T05:28:19Z")
my thoughts so far: i don’t think **jan** is scum. she would be lynched next Day when i flip town. here are the most likely options. 1. she is an insane or paranoid cop. already discussed. 2. she was the target of some broadcasting scum. **jan** accuses me and i get lynched. i flip town, she gets lynched next Day. two mislynches and analysis is killed for two Days. why target me? i’m currently not under suspicion or pressure. they could then vote to lynch townie who IS under pressure. > [@TexCat](#): > > I don’t know how many people targeted me last night, aside from Gnarlycharlie. But I do know that Weedy received a correct result. So someone targeting me last night was a good cop with results sent to Weedy? And I am not sure how redirection works. If everyone targets Gnarly tonight, I am worried that we might get garbled noise. I’d like everyone who targeted me last night to target Charlie tonight. And everyone who thinks they might be a cop to target me tonight. i wonder if **weedy** ’s target was scum and **weedy** stole the said target’s result or that player’s (still scum IMO) results were redirected to **weedy**. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2108 "2011-08-23T05:34:52Z")
Anyone have a current tally after all that yakking? ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2109 "2011-08-23T05:36:14Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > I don’t know if it’s bugging anybody else, but the absence of Supposed Mason \*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*is starting to bug me. > > I understand he’s playing in 4 games, and perhaps his participation would be light because of that, but we haven’t heard from him here since yesterday (Sunday) morning. > > Considering that he’s been a topic of discussion, you’d think he might want to make an appearance, or that his fellow Mason might have PM’d him to say “get your butt over here” at some point. hey, i’m here! i’m asleep when most of you are up. i’m exactly opposite EDT. maybe that’s why i was targeted. i can’t defend myself. it was fortunate i found my fellow mason last Night. otherwise, i’d be dead. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2110 "2011-08-23T05:38:39Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > I’m going to be thinking out loud for a sec. > > Jan is Town. > –Jan is a real Cop. Charlie, Tex, and possibly Ben are all Scum (the latter because of the message, but I find that a more remote reason than the immediate. > –Jan is a paranoid or insane Cop. If paranoid, it tells us nothing about Tex and Charlie (could have been a panicky Scum gambit), if insane, we get two confirmed Town, and Ben starts leaning Town for me. > –Jan is Scum. Charlie and Tex are likely Town, Ben is likely Scum. > –Jan is Town, not a Cop. We are all fucked and have no clue what to do next. > > I think we learn more from lynching Jan than we do from lynching Charlie i think you mean **weedy** not **Ben**. i doubt the other scum would agree to such a gambit. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2111 "2011-08-23T05:40:18Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > \*\*Everyone \*\*please examine **TexCat, DanceCat, Silver Jan, and Blaster.** > > One of these four is guilty. We can still save this round, help me figure out which one it is. if it’s among these four, DanceCat and Blaster are my choices. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2112 "2011-08-23T05:41:42Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Also when did this become the TexCat and Pizza show? Some of us do more in life than play mafia. > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Looking back I disagree with a lot of what Stickler has said. No read on if that’s scummy or not. You’re just cranky cuz I’m right.😛 > [@TexCat](#): > > And I am still willing to lynch Inner or lilflower. I’m feeling very unloved by you right now. Why do people keep listing the possibility that Jan is a town cop? If what she posted is true, she did not choose the investigation whose results she got. I’ve given up trying to figure out the vote count. We need answers and I see gnarlycharlie as holding the answers more than anyone else. **Vote Gnarlycharlie** ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2113 "2011-08-23T05:43:39Z")
sorry for posting piecemeal. if i multi quote i find i have more to reply to after. > [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > Let’s say the oracle thing is happening and that it IS with those five roles…that would mean that **Weedy** ’s result is most likely from the sane oracle, whereas **Silver Jan** ’s could be from the insane one or the paranoid one. I know I’m Town, so mine isn’t scummy, that divides up \*\*Giraffe \*\*and **Scuba** ’s reads from the naive OR paranoid OR insane (depending on which one Jan’s got and which one mine isn’t) and my read between the naive OR paranoid OR insane one (depending on which one **Jan** got and which one the non-scummy **Giraffe** or **Scuba** got) > I sure hope that all made sense because it BARELY made sense to me and I’m the one who wrote it. > > It could all be redundant, though, if it’s not the case. **weedy** ’s result doesn’t have to be from a sane oracle. it could have been redirected from a scum investigator. **weedy** got role AND alignment. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2114 "2011-08-23T05:44:08Z")
**Finger of Suspicion: Inner Stickler** I respect your opinion man, but that vote on gnarly doesn’t sit well with me. Where do you stand on the other 4 scanees? ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2115 "2011-08-23T05:45:11Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > **UPDATED DAY TWO VOTE COUNT** > > Through post #1823 > > gnarlycharlie (6): [del]Weedy [1279][/del], lilflower [1720], [del]Idle Thoughts [1723][/del], brewha [1732], Silver Jan [1735], NAF1138 [1737], Drain Bead [1738], [del]Giraffe [1768][/del], [del]septimus [1771][/del], Blaster Master [1813] > Silver Jan (4): Zeriel [1126], [del]Blaster Master [1759][/del], Weedy [1812], Giraffe [1820], Idle Thoughts [1825] > Scuba\_Ben (2): [del]Blaster Master [1109][/del], [del]Drain Bead [1190][/del], Suburban Plankton [1449], [del]Weedy [1452][/del], Scathach [1499], [del]Idle Thoughts [1507][/del] > Giraffe (2): Normal Phase [1157], [del]peekercpa [1267][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1341][/del], Astral Rejection [1547], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1548][/del], [del]peekercpa [1588][/del] > Weedy (2): Scuba\_Ben [1586], Askthepizzaguy [1590] > Blaster Master (2): sachertorte/DonkTimesFour [1135], [del]septimus [1367][/del], septimus [1808] > peekercpa (1): [del]Giraffe [1320][/del], bufftabby [1646], [del]septimus [1664][/del] > Episkey (1): crackedquads [1552] > DonkTimesFour (1): peekercpa [1663] > TexCat (1): Dancecat [1787] > Askthepizzaguy (0): [del]peekercpa [1524][/del] > Precambrianmollusc (0): [del]Idle Thoughts [1143][/del] > Brewha (0): [del]Askthepizzaguy [1256][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1472][/del] > > Please PM me with any corrections. Scathach unvotes, votes Gnarlycharlie Scathach unvotes gnarly Scathach votes Scuba\_Ben NAF unvotes. Idle unvotes, votes Scuba\_Ben peeker unvotes, votes giraffe Pizza unvotes, votes TexCat Drain Bead unvotes, votes Silver Jan Pizza unvotes, votes Dancecat Astral votes gnarly Brewha unvotes gnarly Inner votes gnarly Dunno what the tally is after all that. I also stupidly forgot to get the post numbers. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2116 "2011-08-23T05:53:37Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > snipped > > **5) TexCat might be wrong.** And I don’t even mean she might be lying. I didn’t quite understand what she was saying about PMs, and I can’t find it now, but if I understand her correctly, she got her information about gnarly’s innocence in a PM from… gnarly. Hardly an unbiased source. If I’m misremembering, and TexCat claimed to get her info from Gadarene, disregard this part. I will add that a wolf hidden amongst the masons does not sound unreasonable to me in a game this size. We’d be a step closer towards clearing our other mason claimants if Gnarly ends up dead (unless they’re wolves too. FPS, maybe?) > > Long story short, we need to know gnarly’s team. i didn’t send her a PM. Gad sent us both a message. by the time i read the PM, **Texcat** had already sent me a PM saying how happy she was. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2117 "2011-08-23T05:58:48Z")
Quick tally of mine shows: Gnarlycharlie (5) \*\*lilflower \*\*[1720], **Silver Jan** [1735], **Blaster Master** [1813], **Astral** , **Inner** , Silver Jan (4): \*\*Zeriel \*\*[1126], \*\*Weedy \*\*[1812], \*\*Giraffe **[1820], Drain Bead, \*\* Scuba\_Ben (3): Suburban Plankton**[1449],**Scathach **,** Idle Thoughts** Giraffe (2): \*\*Normal Phase \*\*[1157], \*\*peeker \*\* Blaster Master (2): sachertorte/\*\*DonkTimesFour \*\*[1135], \*\* septimus \*\*[1808] Weedy (1): **Scuba\_Ben** [1586], peekercpa (1): \*\* bufftabby \*\*[1646], Episkey (1): \*\*crackedquads \*\*[1552] TexCat (1): \*\*Dancecat \*\*[1787] DanceCat: (1) \*\*Askthepizzaguy \*\*Not corrected for errors. I disagree with the \*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*lynch due to the idea of a Dethy detective setup in this game, which renders gnarly a null-tell. But I cannot prove he’s innocent. I think **Silver Jan** is okay, as she’s in the top 3 or 4 of those who have been scanned as being likely guilty, but I think it’s sorta weak. I think **Scuba\_Ben** is a meh lynch. Not going to give us much info if he flips townie, and I don’t think the case on him warrants an immediate lynch. \*\*Blaster \*\*is in my top two lynches for today, but I actually rather liked his contributions so far. **Weedy** - I’ve reversed on. Don’t think so/not sure. **Peeker** - still reads innocent to me. **Episkey** - I like his posts. **TexCat** - not the best lynch out of the 5 scanees, I don’t think… could be wrong. **DanceCat** - \<----------Yes, I like this one. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2118 "2011-08-23T05:58:50Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Where do you stand on the other 4 scanees? I’m torn on Texcat. There is a report that she’s town but it smells funky. Dancecat and Blaster Master seem a bit out of left field. They both have drawn fire in the past and these claims show up the day after one got quite a few votes and on the day the other picked some up. The report on Silver Jan showed up earliest and first which makes me want to trust it as it’s not a response to anything, it came unbidden. On the other hand, it could have been a plant to stir the pot. However, Gnarly’s flip would give us further insight into Silver Jan’s alignment. We can sit here and talk until the thread is 13 pages long and it won’t matter. Eventually we have to lynch someone and a good chunk of people are going to think it’s the wrong lynch. You, yourself, who can’t seem to hold onto an opinion for more than 2 posts will immediately shift your case if any one person seems to be the general consensus, especially if you were the firebrand that started that consensus in the first place. The Day is over in less than 24 hours. We need answers and I see Gnarlycharlie as a good place to get them. So, gnarly, jan, texcat, blaster master, dancecat. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2119 "2011-08-23T06:03:35Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Another thing that I forgot to address: > > That texcat claims him and gnarly shared role pms > > A) This is probably not allowed, and may you get modkilled > > B) If it occurred and both players were honest, gnarly is very clear > > C) If gnarly is a wolf (which is possible), he edited his role pm to deceive texcat. again, we didn’t share role PMs. Gad sent me a PM with my role and **TexCat** ’s filled out. in the previous game, did all masons have to look for each other? ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2120 "2011-08-23T06:04:56Z")
dethy ? omgus? wifop or w/e the hell that acronym is that I keep seeing someone explain those ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2121 "2011-08-23T06:07:24Z")
Oh My God U Suck- a shit vote for no reason other than that person voted for you. Wine In Front Of Me- a situation where neither side knows the end result. The doctor and scum play WIFOM each night when there’s a claimed cop. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=105) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=107)