# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 123
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2442 "2011-08-23T18:26:22Z")
> [@pwnsall](#): > > alright this post makes zero sense, it’s like you are trying to say a lot of useful stuff but say nothing > > and then it’s like you just want hide your vote and try to rationalize your hiding of it so it can’t be questioned, but with no real reasoning of that either > > bufftabby[/COLOR] > > cfd one time Meh, I’m also voting precamb because precamb was doing the same thing that you’re accussing bufftabby of doing, lol. ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2443 "2011-08-23T18:26:58Z")
Yes, because getting my opinions of the vote leaders out in public is terribly anti-Town and probably scummy. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2444 "2011-08-23T18:28:03Z")
**UPDATED DAY TWO VOTE COUNT** Through post #2442 Blaster Master (8): sachertorte/DonkTimesFour [1135], [del]septimus [1367][/del], septimus [1808], [del]NAF1138 [2187][/del], Dancecat [2258], Normal Phase [2272], Episkey [2295], Drain Bead [2322], Idle Thoughts [2326], NAF1138 [2347] gnarlycharlie (3): [del]Weedy [1279][/del], [del]lilflower [1720][/del], [del]Idle Thoughts [1723][/del], [del]brewha [1732][/del], [del]Silver Jan [1735][/del], [del]NAF1138 [1737][/del], [del]Drain Bead [1738][/del], [del]Giraffe [1768][/del], [del]septimus [1771][/del], [del]Blaster Master [1813][/del], [del]Scathach [1872][/del], Astral Rejection [1971], Inner Stickler [2111], Precambrianmollusc [2123], [del]Scuba\_Ben [2173][/del] Scuba\_Ben (3): [del]Blaster Master [1109][/del], [del]Drain Bead [1190][/del], Suburban Plankton [1449], [del]Weedy [1452][/del], [del]Scathach [1499][/del], [del]Idle Thoughts [1507][/del], [del]Scathach [1895][/del], [del]Idle Thoughts [1904][/del], lilflower [2222], Blaster Master [2238], [del]gnarlycharlie [2245][/del] Inner Stickler (3): TexCat [2204], [del]NAF1138 [2249][/del], Scuba\_Ben [2376], LightFoot [2403] Silver Jan (2): Zeriel [1126], [del]Blaster Master [1759][/del], Weedy [1812], [del]Giraffe [1820][/del], [del]Idle Thoughts [1825][/del], [del]Drain Bead [1936][/del], [del]brewha [2159][/del], [del]Scuba\_Ben [2235][/del] Giraffe (2): [del]Normal Phase [1157][/del], [del]peekercpa [1267][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1341][/del], [del]Astral Rejection [1547][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1548][/del], [del]peekercpa [1588][/del], peekercpa [1927], Silver Jan [2282] Precambrianmollusc (2): [del]Idle Thoughts [1143][/del], crackedquads [2143], bufftabby [2384] peekercpa (1): [del]Giraffe [1320][/del], [del]bufftabby [1646][/del], [del]septimus [1664][/del], Giraffe [2246] Dancecat (1): Askthepizzaguy [1969], [del]Silver Jan [2154][/del] bufftabby (1): pwnsall [2438] Brewha (0): [del]Askthepizzaguy [1256][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1472][/del], [del]Normal Phase [2209][/del] Special Ed (0): [del]Silver Jan [2263][/del] Episkey (0): [del]crackedquads [1552][/del] DonkTimesFour (0): [del]peekercpa [1663][/del] TexCat (0): [del]Dancecat [1787][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1929][/del] Askthepizzaguy (0): [del]peekercpa [1524][/del] Weedy (0): [del]Scuba\_Ben [1586][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1590][/del] Please PM me with any corrections. DAY ENDS IN THIRTY MINUTES. ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2445 "2011-08-23T18:28:50Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Meh, I’m also voting precamb because precamb was doing the same thing that you’re accussing bufftabby of doing, lol. quote of posts? and bluff you are misrepresenting what i am saying about you and what you actually did you didn’t really give opinions just hemmed and hawed a lot ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2446 "2011-08-23T18:29:04Z")
> [@pwnsall](#): > > alright this post makes zero sense, it’s like you are trying to say a lot of useful stuff but say nothing > > and then it’s like you just want hide your vote and try to rationalize your hiding of it so it can’t be questioned, but with no real reasoning of that either > > bufftabby [bleached by me] > > cfd one time Since not one of us knows for sure who is going to wake up dead, I think it does make sense to get our thoughts out before EOD. It’s something I’m trying to do as well. (if only these pesky customers would leave me be) The vote it’s self a ‘safe one’ at this time I agree. But there are two sides to that fence too. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2447 "2011-08-23T18:34:39Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > Blue, please. 🙂 > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Gnarly, I’d recommend making a real vote. sorry **Gad**. to think it is THIS board’s convention. really tired from staying up. **Vote Inner Stickler** **Astral** , i did with **Scuba** earlier but i have read the case on **Inner** and i agree with it. i can’t put into my own words now. it’s 230am here and i’m trying to make it to EOD awake. ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2448 "2011-08-23T18:35:24Z")
very well, then i just got my thoughts out about bluff well, that one post at least! also find it suspicious he points out his voting of a wolf who didn’t come close to getting lynched afaik, like look give me credit, and i wouldn’t be surprised if he is doing the same thing here ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2449 "2011-08-23T18:35:46Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > Who was sent actual peeks via mod (IE a peek was redirected to a player) > Scuba Ben (about Jan) > Jan (about gnarlycharlie) > Giraffe (about BlasterMaster) > > And who was sent “whispers” that told them so and so was a villager/wolf. > Weedy (about Texcat) > > I don’t think I missed any but I’m sure someone will be along soon to correct me if I did. My lol theory is that a messenger is a decidedly pro-wolf role so it’s likely this game’s messenger is a wolf. Even if there is both a wolf and villager messenger, the villager messenger would have no reason to send a message to weedy that “texcat is is a villager” on n1 because the messenger would not know anyone’s roles on day one before the message was sent. Assuming the messenger is a wolf, we then can analyze why the message was sent: The message was about texcat, claiming he was a villager. Why would a wolf messenger need to send this message? It would be more likely that the wolf would send a “player x = wolf” message, but perhaps by sending a true message on n1, the village will give the messenger villa credit (for when later messages are sent out) because he couldn’t know if anyone was a wolf. Conversely, a wolf could have sent the message about texcat because texcat is also a wolf. Now in light of the other claims surrounding texcat, this seems unlikely, but I suppose it is possible. Texcat and gnarly _could_ be claiming masons as w/w to ride their way to a wolf win. I believe they are probably villagers, and this should be reaffirmed tonight because the wolves will select one of them as the night kill target, as the wolves can’t let village masons live as they are probably just as/more dangerous as the seers (who likely don’t even know who they are yet). If texcat or gnarly isn’t night killed, they deserve more inspection tomorrow. The message was sent to weedy. Why? I think the most likely explanation is that weedy is a villager, and a wolf sent it to weedy so weedy could broadcast the message without heat being put on the actual wolf. It is also possible that weedy is faking the message, but again that is fps’y to also have claimed to receive the only message on n1 about a player who was already on his way to clearing himself (texcat). ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2450 "2011-08-23T18:35:54Z")
I like the Blaster lynch better than I like lynching any of the message receivers / mason’s for the moment. But I prefer the case against Inner. \*\*[color=blue]vote Inner Stickler[\color] \*\* Also still suspicious of Scuba\_Ben. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2451 "2011-08-23T18:36:31Z")
I don’t like the way the \*\*BlasterMaster \*\*band wagon is out there all by itself. If he’s scum, shouldn’t we have a closer race to the noose? ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2452 "2011-08-23T18:36:56Z")
**vote Inner Stickler** Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2453 "2011-08-23T18:37:11Z")
**TIMING ANNOUNCEMENT** Here’s what I’m thinking for the timing of the next night and day cycle. Today ends in half an hour. If possible, I’d like everyone to _ **submit their night actions by 10 a.m. tomorrow morning** _ so we can get the next day started tomorrow. That day (Day Three) will last until Saturday at noon, and then Night Three will last from Saturday until everyone can get their night actions in or Monday morning, whichever is first. Make sense to everybody? ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2454 "2011-08-23T18:37:38Z")
> [@pwnsall](#): > > very well, then i just got my thoughts out about bluff > > well, that one post at least! > > also find it suspicious he points out his voting of a wolf who didn’t come close to getting lynched afaik, like look give me credit, and i wouldn’t be surprised if he is doing the same thing here It’s \*\*buff \*\*and she’s a she. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2455 "2011-08-23T18:38:50Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > **TIMING ANNOUNCEMENT** > > Here’s what I’m thinking for the timing of the next night and day cycle. Today ends in half an hour. If possible, I’d like everyone to _ **submit their night actions by 10 a.m. tomorrow morning** _ so we can get the next day started tomorrow. That day (Day Three) will last until Saturday at noon, and then Night Three will last from Saturday until everyone can get their night actions in or Monday morning, whichever is first. > > Make sense to everybody? Shoot me in the face, please. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2456 "2011-08-23T18:40:29Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Shoot me in the face, please. Weekends make it hard tho. Plus I’m gonna be in Vegas on Friday so I figured I might as well give people until Saturday morning for the day; that way I don’t have to take too-frequent breaks from playing poker to do votecounts and the reveal. ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2457 "2011-08-23T18:41:16Z")
**crackedquads** summary of case on Precambrianmollusc i really am liking my theory ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2458 "2011-08-23T18:41:39Z")
> [@pwnsall](#): > > very well, then i just got my thoughts out about bluff > > well, that one post at least! > > also find it suspicious he points out his voting of a wolf who didn’t come close to getting lynched afaik, like look give me credit, and i wouldn’t be surprised if he is doing the same thing here buff. she. We’ve only had one Wolf mod-revealed in this game. **PM** ’s behavior matches that of said Wolf. That behavior gave that wolf away yesterDay, IMO. It would be silly for me to tiptoe around my vote yesterDay. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2459 "2011-08-23T18:41:46Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > My lol theory is that a messenger is a decidedly pro-wolf role so it’s likely this game’s messenger is a wolf. Even if there is both a wolf and villager messenger, the villager messenger would have no reason to send a message to weedy that “texcat is is a villager” on n1 because the messenger would not know anyone’s roles on day one before the message was sent. > > Assuming the messenger is a wolf, we then can analyze why the message was sent: > > The message was about texcat, claiming he was a villager. Why would a wolf messenger need to send this message? It would be more likely that the wolf would send a “player x = wolf” message, but perhaps by sending a true message on n1, the village will give the messenger villa credit (for when later messages are sent out) because he couldn’t know if anyone was a wolf. > > Conversely, a wolf could have sent the message about texcat because texcat is also a wolf. Now in light of the other claims surrounding texcat, this seems unlikely, but I suppose it is possible. Texcat and gnarly _could_ be claiming masons as w/w to ride their way to a wolf win. I believe they are probably villagers, and this should be reaffirmed tonight because the wolves will select one of them as the night kill target, as the wolves can’t let village masons live as they are probably just as/more dangerous as the seers (who likely don’t even know who they are yet). If texcat or gnarly isn’t night killed, they deserve more inspection tomorrow. > The message was sent to weedy. Why? I think the most likely explanation is that weedy is a villager, and a wolf sent it to weedy so weedy could broadcast the message without heat being put on the actual wolf. It is also possible that weedy is faking the message, but again that is fps’y to also have claimed to receive the only message on n1 about a player who was already on his way to clearing himself (texcat). Interesting. I think the only issue I have is why \*\*gnarly \*\*and \*\*Texcat \*\*would claim mason toDay. Despite \*\*Texcat \*\*getting some votes yesterDay, I don’t see her as being under any particular pressure at this point in the game. Plus, there is no way the scum would know about **Jan** ’s reveal (unless she is also scum). The other option is that \*\*Weedy \*\*is scum. But again, a false claim like that which could bring down all the scum involved seems awfully risky. ---
**Author:** ![Dancecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Dancecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dancecat)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2460 "2011-08-23T18:42:03Z")
wtf earthquake. my desk shook. this shit isn’t supposed to happen here. I still like my vote. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2461 "2011-08-23T18:42:53Z")
I hope everyone is ok after the earthquake! !!! I have managed to catch up again after dinner and I do not like the fact that Inner, Astral and have all kept their votes on\*\* gnarly\*\*, especially when I don’t even trust the information I received. I don’t like the bandwagon on\*\* Blaster\*\* either. So for keeping his vote on **gnarly** , and for not saying a lot in the game and trying to keep his head down I will **Unvote** For the hundredth time and **Vote Inner Stickler** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=122) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=124)