# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 136
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2702 "2011-08-24T16:22:28Z")
Those are some shitty night results. None of them necessarily change my stance from yesterday: **vote SilverJan** Further vote analysis will occur when I get back home and spend several hours updating my timing spreadsheet. ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2703 "2011-08-24T16:23:50Z")
So now we know where the Dancecat and Blaster messages came from. This is good. I think the two main things we need to focus on this game day are: 1. Analyzing that Inner wagon that sprang up out of nowhere and caught like wildfire. It’s pretty evident that scum were trying to save Blaster, and I think the lynch should come from there today barring someone outing themselves. 2. Working out the messages with the new info. We can know figure out where the dancecat/blaster ones came from. ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2704 "2011-08-24T16:25:40Z")
i haven’t looked but the people i would be most suspicious of are ones that jumped on blaster once he started getting a few votes and then also jumped to inner when he started getting votes not even sure someone fits that description ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2705 "2011-08-24T16:25:59Z")
**Vote Scathach** I don’t like the following posts, [2268](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14172741&postcount=2268) and [2449](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14173664&postcount=2449). In 2268, he explicitly says that he doesn’t find **Blaster Master** scummy, but of the leading lynch targets he’s the only one who didn’t get a message, and he doesn’t want to lynch one of those. Then in 2449, he says he likes the **Blaster** lynch better than lynching the masons/receivers, but votes **Inner** because he prefers the case against **Inner**. This reads to me like someone who is trying to avoid lynching a teammate. In the first post, he realizes that he’s boxed himself into it, and spends that post and the next post trying to wriggle his way out, doing so without saying much in the way of anything one way or the other. If I had to guess which of the late voters were Scum, it would be him. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2706 "2011-08-24T16:26:21Z")
> [@pwnsall](#): > > no they aren’t, not voting him has nothing to do with him being a wolf or not, it’s because it’s a cheap way to hide your vote by voting a player who is poisoned/probably going to die anyway I don’t understand what you’re saying then. What I’m saying is that I think that either **Brewha** or **Scathach** is scum. **Scathach** I have little to no read on and haven’t since the game began. I haven’t noticed him doing anything either suspicious or anything to make me lean towards Town either. **Brewha** , on the other hand, has been minorly pinging me (and others) all through the game (since Day one). So combine that with the fact he was late on the train for Inner, I think it points to HIM as being scum the most likely. I’m not going to vote for **Scathach** if I didn’t have any read on him one way or the other until toDay…I’m going to vote for the one I’ve had minor suspicious for for awhile now: **Brewha**. That’s what mafia is about. : p ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2707 "2011-08-24T16:27:53Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > I’m also going to move **Scuba** into the soft-cleared pile. I’ve seen **BlaM** bus as Scum before (and been the victim of said bussing, actually) but I don’t feel that’s the case here. I don’t see **BlaM** doing that AND making the risky play he did regarding his vote for **Jan**. You said it better than I could. As I recall, **Blaster Master** was pushing the hardest for my lynch Yesterday. My notes say he was first to vote for me. (1109, expanded in 1424) So while I may still seem suspicious for my D1 play, please note that a large amount of the D2 suspicion on me was seeded by a Scummy Wolf. Interestingly, the second player to vote for me had almost identical reasoning to BlaM. And that player was, dum dah dum, **Drain Bead**. (1190) In other matters, I’m curious who got alignment messages about people they didn’t target. AOP @ **Episkey** : As I recall, NAF was the first to set out a major case on **Inner**. We definitely need to look at everybody who voted late for Inner. Including, gulp, me. Would someone please post a color-coded D1 and D2 final vote count? ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2708 "2011-08-24T16:34:03Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > Interestingly, the second player to vote for me had almost identical reasoning to BlaM. And that player was, dum dah dum, **Drain Bead**. (1190) What do you think that says about me, if anything? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2709 "2011-08-24T16:34:51Z")
Well if brewha’s been poisoned why vote him? He’ll probably die anyway (as I expect that Mahaloth would have if he hadn’t already been dead-of-Guiri-fu); we can lynch someone else today. I tentatively agree about scathach; but I welcome the long day regardless. > [@](#): > > Elsewhere, someone found Guiri’s gun and decided to put it to use. They felt that the guy who had been loitering around on the street corner was obviously shifty. Unfortunately, they didn’t see his uniform until it was too late. > > Inner Stickler has been shot! That was … unfortunate. The color looks like a backup vig, but why target him after yesterday’s events? Blech. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2710 "2011-08-24T16:36:11Z")
I just want to throw this out there: That was a poetically appropriate role for Peeker. On a more serious note, I think there’s a solid chance of scum being found in the late Blaster wagon. Being the person to push Blaster over the edge is a serious chunk of town cred, and I can see that being tempting for scum. I’m at work, so I’ll have to review those people later. ---
**Author:** ![sangaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@sangaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sangaman)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2711 "2011-08-24T16:37:30Z")
Wow what carnage. Three deaths and a poisoning. > [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > is Brewha dead? > or just not feeling well. I think Brewha is still alive. I’m still not exactly sure how poison works because I’ve never played with it before. Last night, Mahaloth I believe was both poisoned and shot. The shooting was why he died, and poison I suppose would have killed him eventually? > [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > **Scathach** and **Brewha** , though, I’m willing to bet there’s a scum among them. > And since\*\* BREWHA\*\* doesn’t seem to have very long to live now that he’s been poisoned: > **Vote Brewha.** I actually think we should probably not waste a lynch on Brewha since he’s poisoned anyway. If he gets healed (Gad, I’m assuming you’d tell us if someone’s poison goes away?) then he’s back on the table. In case it hasn’t already been explained, I guess we now know why Dance Cat’s alignment was revealed after n1. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2712 "2011-08-24T16:37:41Z")
NETA: Same reasons as Drain Bead for scathach, plus something Guiri saw on day one. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2713 "2011-08-24T16:39:18Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > What do you think that says about me, if anything? {thinking out loud} It seems to me unlikely that two Scum would start bussing someone. I think it’s more likely that given Blaster was Scum, you’re Town. Anybody care to comment on my thought? I’m also hoping someone comments on my plan regarding my Night targets. And I’m wondering if anybody was told this Dawn that they have multiple targets for a single action Tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2714 "2011-08-24T16:39:20Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > I’m not going to vote for **Scathach** if I didn’t have any read on him one way or the other until toDay…I’m going to vote for the one I’ve had minor suspicious for for awhile now: **Brewha**. That’s what mafia is about. : p Well, okay, but won’t the poison take care of him for you? We have no evidence that the poison is nonfatal. On the other hand, perhaps the pause between poisoning and death would indicate we have a doctor who can cure it? ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2715 "2011-08-24T16:40:24Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Well if brewha’s been poisoned why vote him? As I said to **pwn** , because I feel he’s the more likely to be scum (over **Scathach** ). Why would I vote for someone I was less suspicious of? I could go either way on him…whereas **Brewha** I have have a more scum lean on. ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2716 "2011-08-24T16:42:20Z")
> [@sangaman](#): > > Wow what carnage. Three deaths and a poisoning. > > I think Brewha is still alive. I’m still not exactly sure how poison works because I’ve never played with it before. Last night, Mahaloth I believe was both poisoned and shot. The shooting was why he died, and poison I suppose would have killed him eventually? > > I actually think we should probably not waste a lynch on Brewha since he’s poisoned anyway. If he gets healed (Gad, I’m assuming you’d tell us if someone’s poison goes away?) then he’s back on the table. > > In case it hasn’t already been explained, I guess we now know why Dance Cat’s alignment was revealed after n1. and if he gets healed he is more likely to be scum it’s a waste of a lynch ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2717 "2011-08-24T16:43:01Z")
> [@sangaman](#): > > I actually think we should probably not waste a lynch on Brewha since he’s poisoned anyway. If he gets healed (Gad, I’m assuming you’d tell us if someone’s poison goes away?) then he’s back on the table. This is mafia. I’m voting for the person who has the most of my suspicions thus far. This is how mafia is played. To me, the poisoning makes no difference. Yes, he’ll die eventually anyway, but if he’s scum, better toDay than tomorrow, wouldn’t you agree? ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2718 "2011-08-24T16:45:02Z")
I’m also hoping that people who didn’t know their role took my advice last Night and we have new Masons. Not that I want you to talk about it, mind you. It’ll just be helpful once Scum inevitably start targeting the Masons. It’s also best that nobody report if they felt safe, given that we know that we can’t duplicate targets two Nights in a row. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2719 "2011-08-24T16:45:28Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > And for the record, I received no Night messages and no indication as to the result of my action. Action or Actions? ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2720 "2011-08-24T16:45:38Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Well, okay, but won’t the poison take care of him for you? We have no evidence that the poison is nonfatal. > > On the other hand, perhaps the pause between poisoning and death would indicate we have a doctor who can cure it? Yes, but since I feel he’s the best likely candidate for scum being on Inner Stickler’s wagon, why would I think he should hang around an extra Day doing who knows what dastardly deeds during the Night? ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2721 "2011-08-24T16:46:09Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > This is mafia. I’m voting for the person who has the most of my suspicions thus far. This is how mafia is played. > To me, the poisoning makes no difference. Yes, he’ll die eventually anyway, but if he’s scum, better toDay than tomorrow, wouldn’t you agree? mafia have more info, therefore more likely to know who their healer is (assuming they have one, didn’t in other game i believe), so if he is healed then he can be lynched tomorrow or vigged at night or something i assume no villager will attempt to heal him unless he comes up with something good today [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=135) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=137)