# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 144
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2862 "2011-08-24T20:45:44Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > On POG is it general practice for the color to mean anything? > > Over here we try not to read into it unless the GM specifically says that color plays a role in the game.(which does happen). **MODERATOR NOTE** I mean, I give some thought to how the reveals are phrased. I’ll just say that. (Part of the Dancecat thing was a bit of a POG in-joke, though. As I think she mentioned earlier in the thread, there was a period of about a dozen games fairly recently where she got randed – or “randed” – wolf every single time. Imagine my delight when her role this time was fairly apropos, all things considered.) ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2863 "2011-08-24T20:45:45Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > I’m assuming a scum mason could actually be KILLED, at least. Right but they wouldn’t be would they? Why lynch a mason? Why would a vig target a mason at Night? ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2864 "2011-08-24T20:46:45Z")
This is all off topic and we can save it for later. Clearly I have strong feelings on the subject that are distracting me and it’s not really relevant at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2865 "2011-08-24T20:49:23Z")
> [@sangaman](#): > > I was thinking this myself. The game started with 9 wolves and 7 remain. I don’t know if healer is a role the wolves would be likely to have, I’d guess they wouldn’t but I could easily be wrong. Even if they did start with one, it’s now ~22% that he’s dead. Are you quite sure about ‘9 Wolves’ to start the game? I don’t recall the Mod telling us that. People have been lynched for making such statements in the past. And if there is a Wolf Healer, I’d say the possibility of him still being alive Today is 100%, given that the two Wolves that have died so far were a Tracker and a Propagandist. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2866 "2011-08-24T20:50:07Z")
**Everyone, I have several important announcements to make.** Please stand by. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2867 "2011-08-24T20:50:34Z")
That does rather smack of perfect information ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2868 "2011-08-24T20:52:04Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Well I would assume that either TexCat or Gnarlie would have mentioned it by now that it was a possibility. The type of mechanism I am thinking of would be something like their role PM saying “oh and watch out, one of you might be scum. I blow donkey balls. --Gad” **MODERATOR NOTE** No one has received, or will receive, a PM in which I intimate anything about myself, balls, and the blowing thereof. Donkey or otherwise. (Facebook, on the other hand, is an entirely different matter.) ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2869 "2011-08-24T20:53:25Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > **Everyone, I have several important announcements to make.** > > Please stand by. Wash your hands first. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2870 "2011-08-24T20:55:08Z")
I was refering to the 9 wolves statement by Sanagman ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2871 "2011-08-24T20:56:47Z")
First of all; [ul] [li] I got **two messages last night, each saying that Player A and Player B are Wolves**. As with yesterday’s messages, I do not trust these to be accurate. But I will report their names.[/li][/ul] [ul] [li] Secondly, **I poisoned Brewha** , or someone anticipated that’s what I’d try to do and did it for me.[/li][/ul] Since two of the people I’ve targeted have been poisoned, we can safely assume I am the poisoner. The poisoner is on a delay for the kill, but the poison enters the body immediately. This explains why lightfoot didn’t die; my n0 action had zero effect. Mahaloth would have died even if the other vigilante didn’t target him, because of my poison. Brewha is next. The reason why is because he was late on the Inner Stickler wagon to save Blaster Master, which failed to save him, and I felt that Inner Stickler was likely innocent due to being bussed to save Blaster master. As such, instead of hitting Inner Stickler, I hit my suspect, Brewha. If you disagree with his death, you can overrule me by targeting Brewha tonight and hoping you’re the antidote person. I am not certain about releasing the detective results yet. I would prefer to see who people suspect unmolested by the results, then I will release the results. _ **EVERYONE PLEASE NAME YOUR TOP 3 SUSPECTS.** _ ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2872 "2011-08-24T21:00:30Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > Anyway what I wanted to say was that my “mate”\*\* Peeker\*\* was very sure that **Giraffe** was scum, why aren’t we discussing that? Do you all think that\*\* Peeker\*\* is a twit and you ignore everything he says? Well I for one won’t.\*\* Peeker\*\* might just have had a real result that told him that\*\* Giraffe\*\* was scum! We know\*\* Peeker\*\* is Town so why not just listen to him? Because he didn’t have any sort of investigative power? Because he didn’t make a case beyond “one of his early Day one posts felt scummy to me and then he voted for me!” Because even if he had a “real result” as you put it, we have no reason to believe it’s actually true? I had a real result on **Blaster Master** , remember? Is that enough reasons? **peeker** didn’t retroactively gain Wolf-detecting infallibility simply because he flipped Town. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2873 "2011-08-24T21:00:55Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > **MODERATOR NOTE** > > I mean, I give some thought to how the reveals are phrased. I’ll just say that. > > (Part of the Dancecat thing was a bit of a POG in-joke, though. As I think she mentioned earlier in the thread, there was a period of about a dozen games fairly recently where she got randed – or “randed” – wolf every single time. Imagine my delight when her role this time was fairly apropos, all things considered.) Ok I just looked up apropos (yeah I know the meaning but I thought you had used it incorrectly, my bad) It’s all adverts, they want to get onto google homepage. Just thought I would share my frustration 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2874 "2011-08-24T21:01:53Z")
Brewha, scathach, after that it’s all up in the air. Maybe Zeriel, but that’s way too shallow for confidence at this point. I don’t like his vote on Silver Jan today. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2875 "2011-08-24T21:07:53Z")
Sanga in #2845 is very much PIS. I didn’t see any discussion in Gad’s opening posts #1-3 of how many Wolves there are. **unvote LightFoot** **vote sangaman** And welcome back Pizza! I’m waiting for your Wolf claims with baited breath. (And boy do these worms taste awful. Please hurry up.) The consensus estimate Yesterday was that one of the alignment messages falsely claims Wolf (paranoid Cop) and there is a possibility of a naive Cop. So it’s probable that at least one of those two players is Town, and maybe even both. And please don’t dangle your magic hat over us. I think it’s safe to assume that everybody who has a vote down, that’s their current candidate for Sir Most-Likely-To-Be-Scum. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2876 "2011-08-24T21:09:20Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > Surely if I had blocked you I would have received a message saying I did? Um, I’d read what Ed said here: > [@special\_ed](#): > > I’m going to be quite open, since I’m certain that I’ve already given away too much. > > Last Night, I was made aware of my power. > > I’m not going to inform you of my target last Night, because I don’t want the Scum to be aware. > > On Night 1, I targeted Scuba Ben. My power obviously worked. I was informed that there was no apparent result. Obviously there was a result, I just couldn’t tell. > A roleblocking power might also not be aware of success or failure. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2877 "2011-08-24T21:10:45Z")
One person I’m looking at is **lilflower**. I really don’t like her voting near the end of yesterDay. [post #2469](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14173762&postcount=2469): > [@lilflower](#): > > As I said before, I don’t like the BlasterMaster bandwagon. I’m not convinced he’s town per se, but I do think he’s got too much of a lead to be scum. > > unvote Scuba Ben > vote Inner Stickler > [@lilflower](#): > > Crap! Now I created a tie. I didn’t mean to do that. I really don’t see the case on Blaster but I don’t want to end this Day in a tie. > > unvote Inner Stickler > vote Scuba Ben If **lilflower** is scum, her thinking is clear: if the tie-breaker ends up lynching Blaster, people are going to be very suspicious of me casting the last vote on Inner. Better play it safe. If you’re Town and you believe Inner is scum, why let others control the vote? You said yourself that you expected scum to try to sway a bandwagon to save one of their own, yet you’re more scared of a tie than a mislynch? **vote lilflower** ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2878 "2011-08-24T21:11:04Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Are you quite sure about ‘9 Wolves’ to start the game? I don’t recall the Mod telling us that. People have been lynched for making such statements in the past. Whoa, that’s a very good catch! That’s a HUGE leap to make…it seemed way too specific to be a mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2879 "2011-08-24T21:11:21Z")
As we have the self confessed poisoner out there I will add The role that was revealed to me (that isnt mine even though it said it was me) is the Apothcary. They can heal or prevent someone being poisoned. So if someone suspects they are a redirector and targeted me and someone else , it is likely that someone else is the apothcary and town. How you would get that message to them to let them know, buggered if I know. QUOTE ATPG Secondly, I poisoned Brewha, or someone anticipated that’s what I’d try to do and did it for me ENDQUOTE I dont get that statement - surely you know if you targeted Brewha or not? just doesn’t sit right. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2880 "2011-08-24T21:11:25Z")
Current vote tally plus links to the cases on the top candidates would be extremely useful to me. Please assist? I will thank you in advance for your help, ladies and gentlemen. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/2881 "2011-08-24T21:11:53Z")
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