# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/281 "2011-08-17T20:22:52Z")
The link that is next to the poster name, not the poster name itself. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/282 "2011-08-17T20:24:50Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > Have you met **peeker**? even **peeker** is in awe just a tad bit at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Dancecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Dancecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dancecat)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/283 "2011-08-17T20:26:49Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Relative beginner. Recently got caught as scum for posting in a way similar to yours. I think he misunderstands why it was he got caught out. It’s neither here nor there for me, but honestly has me leaning toward him being town trying to learn from him most recent scum mistake and making a misstep.See my post directed at him back on page 2 I think (if you pull up the post count page and then click the link that is the poster name you get just their posts in the thread. Handy tool.) Very useful info on Giraffe (and that’s how I got the posting numbers for this game; it is a technique in which I’m well-versed 🙂 ) > [@lilflower](#): > > Blending in doesn’t mean not posting anything. Not posting much at all would be lurking (which can also get you votes). I think what \*\*Giraffe \*\*is saying is that you seem to be actively trying not to draw attention to yourself, i.e., not posting anything controversial but still looking like an active participant. So a scum who doesn’t want to be called out for lurking but also doesn’t want to draw much attention would post a lot of fairly neutral comments. I don’t think anybody who’s reading what I’ve written could legitimately argue that I haven’t posted anything controversial. In fact, I was pretty much the first person to call NAF’s idea out, and generated a lot of discussion around it. > [@Giraffe](#): > > On this board: one. (Town, and I think I got lynched the first Day.) > On my board: maybe six? The last one I got lynched the first Day (as scum), in large part because I loudly and dramatically bemoaned how terrible I am at Mafia. So I’m definitely not going to do that, but don’t get too riled up by my vote because I really am fairly terrible at this game. 😉 Ok, that’s what I needed to know. In that case, your vote on me isn’t made for scummy reasons (even though it’s still wrong). If you were an experienced player and made that post, it would be a major scumtell since someone who’d played 20+ games and had read the posts I’ve made here would know better. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/284 "2011-08-17T20:32:44Z")
> [@Dancecat](#): > > Can anyone tell me anything about Giraffe’s level of experience playing mafia? He’s played maybe up 6 to 10 games. He’s always Scum though, even when he’s Town. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/285 "2011-08-17T20:33:37Z")
> [@Dancecat](#): > > Ok, that’s what I needed to know. In that case, your vote on me isn’t made for scummy reasons (even though it’s still wrong). If you were an experienced player and made that post, it would be a major scumtell since someone who’d played 20+ games and had read the posts I’ve made here would know better. You’ll have to show me how you’ve learned to post in such a provably Town way sometime. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/286 "2011-08-17T20:34:41Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Interesting. While it’s almost too obvious, this fits my pattern of typical scum on Day one (following the action but staying quieter than usual, trying not to ruffle feathers) so well that I think it’s worth a vote at this point. > > **vote Dancecat** [color] > [@Giraffe](#): > > Fair enough, I should have said “playing differently than usual” rather than “staying quieter than usual.” Still, reading back through your early posts, I’m not hating my vote. If a brash player were to find themselves Wolf on an unfamiliar board, this is kind of the by-the-book style I’d expect: post a lot, but about strategy and other safe topics, throw an early vote on someone for an anti-Town proposal. > > I’m sure someone will come along who is scummier than you, but I think this is a good place to leave my vote for now. \ they just did. **[color=blue]vote giraffe** ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/287 "2011-08-17T20:34:41Z")
No insulting Giraffe; I still have a major soft spot from that first game we played together. (_cough_The one you’d rather forget._cough_) ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/288 "2011-08-17T20:34:59Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Lol, knew you were hifi just because of this. > > Kind of pisses me off that every game I’ve played with you you’ve been “randed” (whatever the hell that really means) wolf and I’ve always been villager. **Hell, I’ve never, ever been a wolf in any game. Frustrating.** This reads strange and doesn’t give me the fuzzy feelings. I need to sit here and try to put my finger on it, but something about it is off. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/289 "2011-08-17T20:35:45Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > \ > > they just did. > > vote giraffe That’s just lazy. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/290 "2011-08-17T20:35:54Z")
NETA: @ Ed of course. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/291 "2011-08-17T20:38:54Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > This reads strange and doesn’t give me the fuzzy feelings. > > I need to sit here and try to put my finger on it, but something about it is off. Lol, what about it is off? I’ve never been a wolf and kind of feel like the rand is rigged towards players the mods like/have experience with. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/292 "2011-08-17T20:38:55Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > That’s just lazy. how is it lazy? you make a vote based on one reason and then say something totally opposite of your initial reason. feels like you got called bullshit and you knew it. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/293 "2011-08-17T20:39:56Z")
Although if Joshfan can eventually get randed wolf I guess there’s hope for me yet! ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/294 "2011-08-17T20:41:37Z")
and is **dancecat** someone i know by a different name? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/295 "2011-08-17T20:41:49Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > No insulting Giraffe; I still have a major soft spot from that first game we played together. > > (_cough_The one you’d rather forget._cough_) You’re right of course. At least he’s not Dirx. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/296 "2011-08-17T20:45:28Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > how is it lazy? you make a vote based on one reason and then say something totally opposite of your initial reason. feels like you got called bullshit and you knew it. It’s lazy to jump on me for my vote. Opportunistic. And read the posts that I quoted in my vote. One of the 2+2 guys says “hey Dancecat, you’re being quieter than usual, wtf?” he says “loo loo loo, just trying not to get in trouble” which seems suspicious to me. Turns out he’s not actually being quiet, so I shouldn’t have taken the other poster’s word on that, but reading his posts, the “consciously trying to post carefully” does seem evident, so I think my original feeling still stands. It was never about the quietness, it was about the change in behavior. For example, if I was playing with you on a different board and all of a sudden you’re capitalizing things and not yelling at everybody, I’d be suspicious of that as well. ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/297 "2011-08-17T20:45:57Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Lol, what about it is off? I’ve never been a wolf and kind of feel like the rand is rigged towards players the mods like/have experience with. Im not entirely sure as I said. I’ve never seen you mention that, and it’s a weird spot for it to pop up. I’m just a little “hmm” at it. It reads as if you want the people we’re new to to know you’ve never been a wolf so they don’t expect much from a wolf game of yours. When I know you’re a pretty damn solid town player, and have never seen you mention it, it comes off strange. As for the 2nd part, do you really believe so? I’ve found my rand to be pretty close to normal, but obviously it’s a small sample. How many games have you played? ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/298 "2011-08-17T20:51:15Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > It’s lazy to jump on me for my vote. Opportunistic. > > And read the posts that I quoted in my vote. One of the 2+2 guys says “hey Dancecat, you’re being quieter than usual, wtf?” he says “loo loo loo, just trying not to get in trouble” which seems suspicious to me. Turns out he’s not actually being quiet, so I shouldn’t have taken the other poster’s word on that, but reading his posts, the “consciously trying to post carefully” does seem evident, so I think my original feeling still stands. > > It was never about the quietness, it was about the change in behavior. For example, if I was playing with you on a different board and all of a sudden you’re capitalizing things and not yelling at everybody, I’d be suspicious of that as well. I feel like I need to elaborate on my quote that started this. I commented to dancecat that she didn’t seem overly excited, and asked if it’s “same old, same old?”. I asked this because she - to my knowledge - had not been able to play a game as town in approx 10 of them. Knowing how much she’s hated playing as scum lately, I figured she’s be extremely excited about being Town if she was one here. I didn’t really notice that, so I asked her what was up. However, there apparently was a recent game seeing her subbing into a game and getting to play as town, so the whole “she should be excited” thing doesn’t matter anymore. I am not longer skeptical as of right now. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/299 "2011-08-17T20:51:30Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > Im not entirely sure as I said. I’ve never seen you mention that, and it’s a weird spot for it to pop up. I’m just a little “hmm” at it. > > It reads as if you want the people we’re new to to know you’ve never been a wolf so they don’t expect much from a wolf game of yours. When I know you’re a pretty damn solid town player, and have never seen you mention it, it comes off strange. > > As for the 2nd part, do you really believe so? I’ve found my rand to be pretty close to normal, but obviously it’s a small sample. How many games have you played? Actually I’ve definitely mentioned it. I think it was in the Metal Gear Solid game (maybe even risk) but monkey banana was pushing me as the wolf (we were both villagers) and I made up a big ass post linking every single one of the villager games and ranting that I’ve never been a wolf in pog, ever. I don’t know if I’ve mentioned it outside of that game. I do kind of feel that way but obviously have no way of proving that. I don’t even know how the rand actually works. It feels that way to me when people like hifi get “randed” wolf 9 times in a row and I get “randed” villager something like 8 times in a row. Even in the HP game I was first randed a god damned miller, then was able to get subbed back in and was given what was essentially as vanilla of a role there was in HP. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/300 "2011-08-17T20:53:59Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Actually I’ve definitely mentioned it. I think it was in the Metal Gear Solid game (maybe even risk) but monkey banana was pushing me as the wolf (we were both villagers) and I made up a big ass post linking every single one of the villager games and ranting that I’ve never been a wolf in pog, ever. I don’t know if I’ve mentioned it outside of that game. > > I do kind of feel that way but obviously have no way of proving that. I don’t even know how the rand actually works. It feels that way to me when people like hifi get “randed” wolf 9 times in a row and I get “randed” villager something like 8 times in a row. Even in the HP game I was first randed a god damned miller, then was able to get subbed back in and was given what was essentially as vanilla of a role there was in HP. I should add though that I try not to really bring my feeling on that issue in POG because I don’t want a) mods to spite rand me a villager or b) mods to make me a wolf because I’ve complained. I feel like if I bitch about it my roles might get polarized depending on the mods and I don’t want that to happen. Probably shouldn’t have mentioned it here either but oh well. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=16)