# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3082 "2011-08-25T09:32:33Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
>
> \*\*That \*\*is plausible. Very well done if scum. I trust you a little bit more now. There’s no one here talking to me. Care to stay and chat for a spell?

I’m afraid I don’t have a huge amount to add at the moment. I need to go back over the events of the last day at lynch. I want to look at lilflower too - why would she back off creating a tie if she didn’t think BlaM was scum?

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3083 "2011-08-25T10:12:40Z")

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> [@lilflower](#):
>
> Crap! Now I created a tie. I didn’t mean to do that. I really don’t see the case on Blaster but I don’t want to end this Day in a tie. **unvote Inner Stickler vote Scuba Ben**

You said you didn’t like the BlaM lynch, but unvoted when you realised you had a 50/50 chance of saving him? (i.e. in a tie, correct me if I’m wrong, the lynch is chosen randomly between the two candidates) You specifically said you didn’t like the case against BlaM, but then deliberately let him be lynched?

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3084 "2011-08-25T10:26:51Z")

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\*\* This is the stuff we know.\*\*

[spoiler]

> [@Gadarene](#):
>
> **FINAL DAY ONE VOTE COUNT**
> 
> \*\*Krayz \*\*(7): Drain Bead [489], Meeko/sangaman [493], [del]Scuba\_Ben [498][/del], **Mahaloth \*\*\*\*[540]**, Idle Thoughts [706], LightFoot [717], Scuba\_Ben [736], Precambrianmollusc [771]
> 
> \*\*TexCat \*\*(5): **Inner Stickler [473]**, lilflower [494], MykBot [586], gnarlycharlie [636], Normal Phase [739]
> 
> **Silver Jan** (5): special ed [487], **DanceCat [513**], Episkey [617], bufftabby [795], **Blaster Master [820]**
> 
> \*\*peekercpa \*\*(4): Giraffe [301], [del]special ed [313][/del], NAF1138 [337], [del]Scuba\_Ben [379][/del], Silver Jan [484], crackedquads [743]
> 
> \*\*TimeLady \*\*(2): sachertorte [211], Suburban Plankton [352]  
> \*\*SisterCoyote \*\*(2): TimeLady [648], brewha [750]
> 
> **Mahaloth (1): [del]bufftabby [564][/del], Krayz [597]**  
> \*\*Dancecat \*\*(1): [del]Idle Thoughts [72][/del], [del]Giraffe [250][/del], [del]Normal Phase [497][/del], Scathach [604]  
> \*\*Giraffe \*\*(1): [del]special ed [51][/del], **peekercpa [286]**, [del]Krayz [418][/del]  
> \*\*MykBot \*\*(1): [del]Zeriel [21][/del], [del]TimeLady [24][/del], [del]TexCat [459][/del], septimus [601]  
> \*\*Scathach \*\*(1): \*\*GuiriEnEspaña \*\*[359]  
> \*\*LightFoot \*\*(1): Zeriel [375]  
> \*\*septimus \*\*(1): Askthepizzaguy [477]  
> \*\*lilflower \*\*(1): TexCat [521]  
> \*\*special ed \*\*(1): SisterCoyote [562]
> 
> **Suburban Plankton** (0): [del]Scuba\_Ben [572][/del]  
> **Idle Thoughts** (0): [del]Krayz [86][/del]  
> \*\*GuiriEnEspaña \*\*(0): [del]Drain Bead [386][/del]  
> \*\*NAF1138 \*\*(0): [del]Dancecat [53][/del], **[del]Blaster Master [520][/del]**
> 
> Five minutes for people to PM me with any corrections.

> [@Gadarene](#):
>
> **FINAL DAY TWO VOTE COUNT**
> 
> Through post #2496  
> \*\*  
> Blaster Master \*\* (10): sachertorte/DonkTimesFour [1135], [del]septimus [1367][/del], septimus [1808], [del]NAF1138 [2187][/del], **Dancecat [2258]**, Normal Phase [2272], Episkey [2295], Drain Bead [2322], Idle Thoughts [2326], NAF1138 [2347], pwnsall [2491], **peekercpa [2492]**
> 
> **Inner Stickler** (8): TexCat [2204], [del]NAF1138 [2249][/del], Scuba\_Ben [2376], LightFoot [2403], gnarlycharlie [2446], Scathach [2451], Silver Jan [2460], brewha [2466], [del]lilflower [2469][/del],\*\* Blaster Master [2486]\*\*
> 
> **gnarlycharlie (3): [del]Weedy [1279][/del], [del]lilflower [1720][/del], [del]Idle Thoughts [1723][/del], [del]brewha [1732][/del], [del]Silver Jan [1735][/del], [del]NAF1138 [1737][/del], [del]Drain Bead [1738][/del], [del]Giraffe [1768][/del], [del]septimus [1771][/del], \*\* [del]Blaster Master [1813][/del], [del]Scathach [1872][/del], Astral Rejection [1971],** Inner Stickler [2111]\*\*, Precambrianmollusc [2123], [del]Scuba\_Ben [2173][/del]
> 
> \*\*Precambrianmollusc \*\*(2): [del]Idle Thoughts [1143][/del], crackedquads [2143], bufftabby [2384], [del]pwnsall [2462][/del]  
> **Silver Jan** (2): Zeriel [1126], **[del]Blaster Master [1759][/del]**, Weedy [1812], [del]Giraffe [1820][/del], [del]Idle Thoughts [1825][/del], [del]Drain Bead [1936][/del], [del]brewha [2159][/del], [del]Scuba\_Ben [2235][/del]
> 
> **Scuba\_Ben** (1): **[del]Blaster Master [1109][/del]**, [del]Drain Bead [1190][/del], Suburban Plankton [1449], [del]Weedy [1452][/del], [del]Scathach [1499][/del], [del]Idle Thoughts [1507][/del], [del]Scathach [1895][/del], [del]Idle Thoughts [1904][/del], [del]lilflower [2222][/del], **[del]Blaster Master [2238][/del]**, [del]gnarlycharlie [2245][/del], lilflower [2479]  
> \*\*peekercpa \*\*(1): [del]Giraffe [1320][/del], [del]bufftabby [1646][/del], [del]septimus [1664][/del], Giraffe [2246]  
> \*\*Dancecat \*\*(1): Askthepizzaguy [1969], [del]Silver Jan [2154][/del]
> 
> \*\*bufftabby \*\*(0): [del]pwnsall [2438][/del]  
> \*\*Brewha \*\*(0): [del]Askthepizzaguy [1256][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1472][/del], [del]Normal Phase [2209][/del]  
> **Special Ed** (0): [del]Silver Jan [2263][/del]  
> \*\*Episkey \*\*(0): [del]crackedquads [1552][/del]  
> \*\*DonkTimesFour \*\*(0): **[del]peekercpa [1663][/del]**  
> \*\*TexCat \*\*(0): **[del]Dancecat [1787][/del]**, [del]Askthepizzaguy [1929][/del]  
> \*\*Askthepizzaguy \*\*(0): **[del]peekercpa [1524][/del]**  
> \*\*Weedy \*\*(0): [del]Scuba\_Ben [1586][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1590][/del]  
> \*\*Giraffe \*\*(0): [del]Normal Phase [1157][/del], \*\*[del]peekercpa [1267][/del], \*\*[del]Askthepizzaguy [1341][/del], [del]Astral Rejection [1547][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1548][/del], **[del]peekercpa [1588][/del], [del]peekercpa [1927][/del]**, [del]Silver Jan [2282][/del]  
> You have **FIVE MINUTES** to please PM me with any corrections.

**Gadarene 161 (Host)  
Krayz 35 (Town, Bureaucrat) Lynch  
Mahaloth 5 (Wolf, Tracker) Vigilante  
GuiriEnEspaña 11 (Town, Vigilante) Murder  
Silman 4 (Town, Journalist) Murder  
Blaster Master 67 (Wolf, Propagandist) Lynch  
Dancecat 114 (Town, Town Crier) Murder  
Inner Stickler 90 (Town, Beat Cop) Vigilante  
peekercpa 318 (Town, Lightning Rod) Murder**[/spoiler]

This is just my personal current opinion.

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[ul]  
[li]**Blue- Strong lean townie or Town (Askthepizzaguy, Sacher/DonkX4, Septimus, NAF, Normal, Episkey**[/li][li]**Teal- Lean townie. (Drain Bead, Idle Thoughts, TexCat, gnarlycharlie, Silver Jan, Scuba\_Ben, Weedy/Hirka, TimeLady/pwnsall, SisterCoyote/JD)[/li]**  
[li]**Black- No bet. (crackedquads, lilflower, Suburban Plankton, Zeriel, special ed, Giraffe, bufftabby, Scathach, Mykbot, sangaman/Meeko, [/li]**  
[li]**Maroon- Lean scummy. (Brewha, Lightfoot, Astral Rejection)[/li]**  
[li]**Red- Strong lean scummy or Scum (Only the dead scums so far)[/li]**  
[/ul]

> [@Gadarene](#):
>
> **FINAL DAY ONE VOTE COUNT**
> 
> \*\*Krayz (7): Drain Bead [489],Meeko/sangaman [493], [del]Scuba\_Ben [498][/del], Mahaloth [540], Idle Thoughts [706], LightFoot [717], Scuba\_Ben [736], Precambrianmollusc [771]  
> TexCat (5): Inner Stickler [473], lilflower [494], MykBot [586], gnarlycharlie [636], Normal Phase [739]  
> Silver Jan (5): special ed [487], DanceCat [513], Episkey [617], bufftabby [795], Blaster Master [820]  
> peekercpa (4): Giraffe [301], [del]special ed [313][/del], NAF1138 [337], [del]Scuba\_Ben [379][/del], Silver Jan [484], crackedquads [743]  
> TimeLady (2): sachertorte [211], Suburban Plankton [352]  
> SisterCoyote (2): TimeLady [648], brewha [750]  
> \*\* \*\*Mahaloth (1): [del]bufftabby [564][/del], Krayz [597]  
> Dancecat (1): [del]Idle Thoughts [72][/del], [del]Giraffe [250][/del], [del]Normal Phase [497][/del], Scathach [604]  
> Giraffe (1): [del]special ed [51][/del], peekercpa [286], [del]Krayz [418][/del]  
> MykBot (1): [del]Zeriel [21][/del], [del]TimeLady [24][/del], [del]TexCat [459][/del], [COLOR=Blue]septimus [601][/COLOR]  
> Scathach (1): GuiriEnEspaña [359]  
> LightFoot (1): Zeriel [375]  
> septimus (1): Askthepizzaguy [477]  
> lilflower (1): TexCat [521]  
> \*\* \*\*special ed (1): SisterCoyote [562]  
> \*\* **Suburban Plankton(0): [del]Scuba\_Ben [572][/del]  
> Idle Thoughts(0): [del]Krayz [86][/del]  
> GuiriEnEspaña (0):** \*\* [del]Drain Bead [386][/del]  
> NAF1138 (0): [del]Dancecat [53][/del], \*\* **[del]Blaster Master [520][/del]**
> 
> Five minutes for people to PM me with any corrections.

> [@Gadarene](#):
>
> **FINAL DAY TWO VOTE COUNT**
> 
> Through post #2496  
> \*\*  
> Blaster Master \*\*\*\* (10): sachertorte/DonkTimesFour [1135], [del]septimus [1367][/del], septimus [1808], [del]NAF1138 [2187][/del], Dancecat [2258], Normal Phase [2272], Episkey [2295], Drain Bead [2322], Idle Thoughts [2326],NAF1138 [2347], pwnsall [2491], peekercpa [2492]  
> Inner Stickler (8): TexCat [2204], [del]NAF1138 [2249][/del], Scuba\_Ben [2376], LightFoot [2403], gnarlycharlie [2446], Scathach [2451], Silver Jan [2460], brewha [2466], [del]lilflower [2469][/del], Blaster Master [2486]  
> gnarlycharlie (3): [del]Weedy [1279][/del], [del]lilflower [1720][/del], [del]Idle Thoughts [1723][/del], [del]brewha [1732][/del], [del]Silver Jan [1735][/del], [del]NAF1138 [1737][/del], [del]Drain Bead [1738][/del], [del]Giraffe [1768][/del], [del]septimus [1771][/del], [del]Blaster Master [1813][/del], [del]Scathach [1872][/del], Astral Rejection [1971], Inner Stickler [2111],Precambrianmollusc [2123], [del]Scuba\_Ben [2173][/del]  
> Precambrianmollusc (2): [del]Idle Thoughts [1143][/del], crackedquads [2143], bufftabby [2384], [del]pwnsall [2462][/del]  
> Silver Jan (2): Zeriel [1126], [del]Blaster Master [1759][/del], Weedy [1812], [del]Giraffe [1820][/del], [del]Idle Thoughts [1825][/del], [del]Drain Bead [1936][/del], [del]brewha [2159][/del], [del]Scuba\_Ben [2235][/del]  
> Scuba\_Ben (1): [del]Blaster Master [1109][/del], [del]Drain Bead [1190][/del], Suburban Plankton [1449], [del]Weedy [1452][/del], [del]Scathach [1499][/del], [del]Idle Thoughts [1507][/del], [del]Scathach [1895][/del], [del]Idle Thoughts [1904][/del], [del]lilflower [2222][/del], [del]Blaster Master [2238][/del], [del]gnarlycharlie [2245][/del], lilflower [2479]  
> peekercpa (1): [del]Giraffe [1320][/del], [del]bufftabby [1646][/del], [del]septimus [1664][/del], Giraffe [2246]  
> Dancecat (1): Askthepizzaguy [1969],[del]Silver Jan [2154][/del]  
> bufftabby (0): [del]pwnsall [2438][/del]  
> Brewha (0): [del]Askthepizzaguy [1256][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1472][/del], [del]Normal Phase [2209][/del]  
> \*\* **Special Ed(0): [del]Silver Jan [2263][/del]  
> Episkey (0): [del]crackedquads [1552][/del]  
> DonkTimesFour (0): [del]peekercpa [1663][/del]  
> TexCat (0): [del]Dancecat [1787][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1929][/del]  
> Askthepizzaguy (0): [del]peekercpa [1524][/del]  
> Weedy (0): [del]Scuba\_Ben [1586][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1590][/del]  
> Giraffe (0): [del]Normal Phase [1157][/del], [del]peekercpa [1267][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1341][/del], [del]Astral Rejection [1547][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1548][/del], [del]peekercpa [1588][/del], [del]peekercpa [1927][/del], [del]Silver Jan [2282][/del]**  
> You have **FIVE MINUTES** to please PM me with any corrections.

# **Askthepizzaguy/PetW 258 [Lock townie, likely poisoner] NAF1138 190 [Strong townie] Idle Thoughts 176 [Heavy lean townie] crackedquads 164 [Need to review more, no opinion] LightFoot 114 [Need to review, votes seem scummy] lilflower 98**\*\* [Need to review more, no opinion]\*\* \*\* TexCat 97 [Claim backed up by others, Mason claim, results say townie] Episkey 90 [Strong protown vote record and discussion] Silver Jan 88 [Lean townie, but NOT a lock] Suburban Plankton 83\*\*\*\* [Need to review more, no opinion]\*\* \*\* Scuba\_Ben 80 [Seemed to be scum target] pwnsall/TimeLady 72/45 [protown vote record] Drain Bead 69 [protown vote record] Normal Phase 60 [Strong protown discusson and vote record] Zeriel 58\*\*\*\* [Need to review more, no opinion]\*\* \*\* gnarlycharlie 53 [I do not believe the results on him are genuine, mason claim] special ed 50\*\*\*\* [Need to review more, no opinion]\*\* \*\* Giraffe 49\*\*\*\* [Need to review more, no opinion]\*\* \*\* bufftabby 45\*\*\*\* [Need to review more, but I actually get a scummy vibe from the vote record]\*\* \*\* Scathach 45 [I can buy her explanations] [COLOR=Black]Precambrianmollusc 43 [Leaned more scummy than this, but to be the capper vote on Krayz seems odd if scum, unless TexCat is scum] Astral Rejection 42 [Vote record, defense of Blaster, disagree] brewha 36 [Reaction to case, scummy behavior][/COLOR] MykBot 34\*\*\*\* [Need to review more, no opinion]\*\* \*\* sangaman/Meeko 26/4\*\*\*\* [Need to review more, but could lean townie]\*\* \*\* Weedy/Hirka 24 [Due to how Weedy behaved during the 5 result discussion] septimus 19 [Pro-town voting record] DonkTimesFour/sach 12/19 [Pro-town voting record] J.D./SisCoyote 1/27 [Nothing scummy about SisCoyote IMO]\*\*

**Gadarene 161 (Host)  
Krayz 35 (Town, Bureaucrat) Lynch  
Mahaloth 5 (Wolf, Tracker) Vigilante  
GuiriEnEspaña 11 (Town, Vigilante) Murder  
Silman 4 (Town, Journalist) Murder  
Blaster Master 67 (Wolf, Propagandist) Lynch  
Dancecat 114 (Town, Town Crier) Murder  
Inner Stickler 90 (Town, Beat Cop) Vigilante  
peekercpa 318 (Town, Lightning Rod) Murder**[/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3085 "2011-08-25T11:04:02Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
>
> Nevermind. Just read his posts since N1-his death.
> 
> @ Weedy- what do you mean it was DanceCat? Idle thoughts had the Dancecat result.

Lightfoot and Normal Phase found it.

> [@LightFoot](#):
>
> Quick thoughts from \*\* Inner’s \*\* posts
> 
> > [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
> >
> > My first guess is that Dancecat has some sort of broadcasting role. When he targets a player, he tells them his alignment.
> 
> Correct there (could have been his target)  
> When \*\*CQ \*\* was agreeing about a Vig’s role.  
> .  
> \<snipped\>  
> .  
> .
> 
> It appears that \*\* Inner \*\* was after \*\* Charlie \*\* although his ‘results’ could well have been from \*\* DanceCat \*\* since he pegged her role.

> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
>
> Whole post in just a sec, but Lightfoot already went back through Inner’s posts and found what I think is a near-dead-certain breadcrumb of DanceCat’s role. He basically said exactly what it was.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3086 "2011-08-25T11:05:09Z")

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> [@pwnsall](#):
>
> Naf made the case on inner but ended up voting blaster master if i remember correctly?
> 
> i thought he was a little wolfy but he resonded well to questioning
> 
> don’t remember much about episkey

I made the case on Blaster and supported the case on Inner but voted for Blaster because it looked like no one was going to join me in my support for Inner. I thought the case presented on Inner was stronger.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3087 "2011-08-25T11:06:37Z")

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> [@Weedy](#):
>
> Lightfoot and Normal Phase found it.

Ah, thank you. 😃

There is a whole heck of a lot in this thread and I’m already sort of a sloppy note taker. I’m going to miss relevant things, which is one of the many reasons I need folks going behind me and picking up all the things I drop and painting over the spots I miss.

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**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3088 "2011-08-25T11:16:44Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
>
> What were the circumstances? (Rhetorical question, but I honestly don’t recall)
> 
> 1. Was this pushed by Blaster Master while neither Scuba nor Blaster was under threat of death?
> 2. When did Blaster Master push hardest on this case?
> 3. Was there a realistic chance Scuba died from his case and vote?
> 
> If so, then it’s either very convincing bussing or it’s Scuba being innocent.
> 
> I’ll look it over, because I’m not sure of anything except her votes are bad.
> 
> This is an excellent point, thank you.

1. Yes
2. Early in the day, before the result/claim fest
3. ScubaBen was up to (I think) 6 votes before Silver Jan accused gnarly.
4. Suburban Plankton and Drain Bead had independent cases and votes, but 3 of us (I was one) voted Ben for Blaster Master’s and Suburban’s case. If it was a bus, he pushed it pretty hard, and followed it up in subsequent posts.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3089 "2011-08-25T11:24:01Z")

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Thanks again Weedy.

I just don’t see Scuba as a top candidate at the moment unless I’m missing something.

I see I’m pretty much alone on Astral and Brewha. Okay lets hope I’m wrong.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3090 "2011-08-25T11:30:59Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
>
> Ah, thank you. 😃
> 
> There is a whole heck of a lot in this thread and I’m already sort of a sloppy note taker. I’m going to miss relevant things, which is one of the many reasons I need folks going behind me and picking up all the things I drop and painting over the spots I miss.

LOL, of course I have nothing better to do than run around after you. It must be the mum in me.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3091 "2011-08-25T12:22:08Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
>
> @ Pizza: It also gets townies in trouble. Consider this hypothetical: You list player X as your top suspect. Player X is town. You lead a healthy mix of town and mafia players to vote for him. He dies. Oops. Player Y votes for you as a result. Player Y is also town. A healthy mix of town and mafia players vote for you. You die.
> 
> Are we any closer to finding scum? Did they have to do anything to drive two mislynches?
> 
> Meanwhile, they’ve been handed a blueprint for every townie’s suspicions, and they’re free to game town by eliminating people they deem most tactically wise. Right now, killing townie Z is a crapshoot for them - they don’t know Z’s power, Z doesn’t know Z’s power, and they don’t know what cases Z might try to make in the future. For all they know, player Q (really shoulda planned this alphabet naming thing out better) would have been a better lynch, because the next day he leads a case on scum R.
> 
> Do you see what I’m getting at?

Not to mention it could potentially out Cops. This actually happened when someone came up with the idea of posting “trust lists” in one of the first Mafia games on this board. The Scum went through the lists and found the ones that were the most accurate and used their NK to take out the Cop on either the first or second night after the list idea was proposed.

> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
>
> I’ll look it over, because I’m not sure of anything except her votes are bad.

Define bad. I made two cases (technically I was the first to bring up **Ben** on Day One, that were at least logically consistent, albeit wrong. Alas, Townies make wrong cases all the time. At least I realized it, and have soft-cleared **Ben** as a result. I voted Scum on Day Two. That vote was not supported by much other than a hunch, but I can’t exactly argue that the results are bad.

And toDay, I made the first case against **Scathach**. Three Days, and all three times I was either the first or second vote on someone. The time I was the second vote, I had been the one to begin the case the day before, and essentially cuddled a known Scum in doing so. If I’m Scum, I’m being exceptionally bold. That’s why I asked **Ben** what he thought of me after Day 2. I figured that he, of all people, could see that I was likely Town based on the events of that Day. I also thought (incorrectly, as it seems now) that he realized I targeted him N1 and thought I might be responsible for doubling his powers–hence why he made sure to emphasize this to me. I was trying hard to be subtle about that, but was concerned I played my hand too obviously there and might be a potential NK target. Turns out it wasn’t me, it was **Ed** (I will take that at face value, because lying to out the real doubler will get him lynched the second it’s found out). But I digress. An examination of my record will show nothing bad. Wrong sometimes, sure, but not bad.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3093 "2011-08-25T12:38:47Z")

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Where’s **charlie** , anyway?

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3094 "2011-08-25T12:41:02Z")

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> [@Gadarene](#):
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> **MODERATOR ANNOUNCEMENT**
> 
> DuckburgDK will be subbing in to replace MykBot. Say hi to Duck!

Hi Duck!

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3095 "2011-08-25T12:43:32Z")

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Can someone real quick, or at your own speed, tell me the following:  
Who’s dead - and their alignment

The best case made itt.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3096 "2011-08-25T12:49:00Z")

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and ofc - when is lynch?

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3097 "2011-08-25T12:53:18Z")

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> [@DuckburgDK](#):
>
> and ofc - when is lynch?

Day ends on Saturday at 12 pm EDT.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3098 "2011-08-25T12:57:06Z")

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Hi Duck!

Cos I’m lazy, I’ll just suggest you click the Day and Night links in Gad’s sig to get the kills.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3099 "2011-08-25T13:02:10Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
>
> Thanks again Weedy.
> 
> I just don’t see Scuba as a top candidate at the moment unless I’m missing something.
> 
> I see I’m pretty much alone on Astral and Brewha. Okay lets hope I’m wrong.

With the schools year just starting, and being swamped with work as I’ve taken over as department chair, I’m still in skimming mode.

Scuba Ben has slid slightly from neutral to possible Town based on revealing that his action had been doubled. I’m not certain Scum would have easily given up this information in the game thread. This is not solid clad evidence, but it’s enough for me to compensate for my earlier suspicion.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3100 "2011-08-25T13:02:27Z")

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Where do I set up my account, so I can see signatures?

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3101 "2011-08-25T13:06:02Z")

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Found it - by clicking Gad’s name and his public profile.  
So I believe we’re running pretty good.

You could link me to the best case itt 🙂

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