# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 157
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3122 "2011-08-25T15:15:58Z")
\*\*Sangaman’s \*\*posts (and the few by \*\*Meeko \*\*before he subbed out): Day 1 - posts by Meeko 423 - fluff 427 - fluff 493 - votes Krayz 918 - subs out Day 1 -posts by Sangaman 726 - subs in, says hello Night 1 1055 - fluff 1090 - fluff Day 2 1128 - suggested someone might have peeked Dancecat N0 and sent the info to Idle N1 1248 - analysis of krayz voters from D1. 1445 - talks bout Meeko’s vote on Krayz 1447 - asks why Pizza claimed Vig. asks about doule-kill on Mahaloth 2355 - notes he won’t have time to catch up before EoD. Thinks Texcat, gnarlycharlie and Silver Jan are all telling the truth. doesn’t like a Giraffe lynch 2375 - doesn’t like a Blaster Master lynch, thinks PCM would have been a good lynch 2406 - fluff 2464 - fluff 2470 - fluff 2473 - fluff 2481 - thinks Blaster made a good defense. Wants to vote PCM. doesn’t want to vote Tex, Gnarly, or Jan. Needs to read up on Idle. 2490 - fluff Night 2 2498 2568 2617 2621 2622 2625 Day 3 2710 - comment on N2 carnage. Says we shouldn’t waste a lynch on brewha since he’s been poisoned. 2728 - disucsses ‘who to lynch’ philosophy, with regard to brewha 2845 - discusses brewha. mentions that there were 9 wolves. talks about wolf healers. Thinks LightFoot might be a good lynch and theat Scuba\_Ben seems Villagery. 3057 - addresses his ‘slip’. says he thought the OP said 9 wolves, and that he is used to wolves equalling 25% of the player pool 3067 - reiterates that he is used to 25% of the players being wolves, and has never played in a game where the muber of wolves was not common knowledge Nothing to go on for Day 1 He didn’t place a vote on Day 2 Day 3 he’s told us he thinks a lynch of \*\*brewha \*\*would be a waste, and hasn’t made any other analysis at all (except for telling us how many Scum there are) The only person he’s expressed any suspicion of is **Precambrianmollusc** ; twice on Day 2 he mentions PCM, but he doesn’t place a vote. His ‘slip’ might by PIS, or it might just be a Townie making a bad assumption, and there’s no direct evidence to support either conclusion. So taking that out of consideration, and simply looking at the rest of his game, I’m seeing no real attempt to assist the Town in its efforts. He’s either a very lazy Townie, or he’s Scum. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3123 "2011-08-25T15:30:32Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > That’s interesting. Is it because I keep asking people to tell me why you were suspicious and no one has yet? No, that’s not it. > [@](#): > > How about you? What was the case against you? “There is too much. Let me sum up.” - Weak voting on D1 - Voting with weak reasons early and often - Jumping onto the Krayz bandwagon, after I had previously unvoted em See my reply to ATPG, where I reference Blaster Master’s case against me Yesterday. Please keep in mind (i) that e was Scum, and (ii) it’s now Day 3 when I have stuff to work with. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3124 "2011-08-25T15:36:53Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > \*\*Sangaman’s \*\*posts (and the few by \*\*Meeko \*\*before he subbed out): > > Day 1 - posts by Meeko > 423 - fluff > 427 - fluff > 493 - votes Krayz > 918 - subs out In 4 posts, two are fluff. > [@](#): > > Day 1 -posts by Sangaman > 726 - subs in, says hello Says nothing D1. > [@](#): > > Day 2 > 1128 - suggested someone might have peeked Dancecat N0 and sent the info to Idle N1 > 1248 - analysis of krayz voters from D1. > 1445 - talks bout Meeko’s vote on Krayz > 1447 - asks why Pizza claimed Vig. asks about doule-kill on Mahaloth > 2355 - notes he won’t have time to catch up before EoD. Thinks Texcat, gnarlycharlie and Silver Jan are all telling the truth. doesn’t like a Giraffe lynch > 2375 - doesn’t like a Blaster Master lynch, thinks PCM would have been a good lynch > 2406 - fluff > 2464 - fluff > 2470 - fluff > 2473 - fluff > 2481 - thinks Blaster made a good defense. Wants to vote PCM. doesn’t want to vote Tex, Gnarly, or Jan. Needs to read up on Idle. > 2490 - fluff 5 fluff posts out of 12. Wanted to vote PCM in two posts, but doesn’t actually vote. > [@](#): > > Day 3 > 2710 - comment on N2 carnage. Says we shouldn’t waste a lynch on brewha since he’s been poisoned. > 2728 - disucsses ‘who to lynch’ philosophy, with regard to brewha > 2845 - discusses brewha. mentions that there were 9 wolves. talks about wolf healers. Thinks LightFoot might be a good lynch and theat Scuba\_Ben seems Villagery. > 3057 - addresses his ‘slip’. says he thought the OP said 9 wolves, and that he is used to wolves equalling 25% of the player pool > 3067 - reiterates that he is used to 25% of the players being wolves, and has never played in a game where the muber of wolves was not common knowledge Better, but doesn’t really make a case on anybody, even LightFoot. I concur with Plankton. Either sangaman is very lazy, or sanga/Meeko is scummy. Their combined Daytime post history is not helpful. I’m also worried that of Meeko’s 3 posts on D1 before e asked to be subbed out, 2 were fluff – e’s usually almost as talkative as PizzaGuy or peeker. I suggest that additional pressure on sanga to step up eir game is warranted. And if sanga doesn’t get lynched, e’s a good candidate for various Night actions. I’d prefer an investigation over a poisoning, it seems to me that poisoning is better suited at the moment to pushing a lurker if we have any. (I haven’t checked the Who Posted? list for lurkers.) ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3125 "2011-08-25T15:41:13Z")
meone throw together a short list of cliff notes for JD and duckburg? I at least have the death write ups on hand but I don’t have any of the flavor copied. Day one Lynch: > [@](#): > > Krayz, you are a **Bureaucrat**. Each night beginning Night One, you select a target. Your target’s night action will be delayed until the following night. You are a **Villager**. You win when all threats to Town Village have been eliminated. Day one night actions: > [@](#): > > Mahaloth has been poisoned! Mahaloth has been shot! > > > [@](#): > > > > Mahaloth, you are a **Tracker**. Each night beginning Night One, you select a target. You will learn who your target visited during the night. You are a **Wolf**. You win by achieving parity with the village and eliminating any other threats. > > > [@](#): > > > > GuiriEnEspaña, you are a **Vigilante**. Each night beginning Night One, you select a target to kill. You are a **Villager**. You win when all threats to Town Village have been eliminated. > > > [@](#): > > > > Silman, you are a **Journalist**. Each night beginning Night One, you select a target. You will learn if your target’s night action has been changed, redirected, or blocked. You will also overhear any messages sent to your target. Peeks do not count as messages. You are a **Villager**. You win when all threats to Town Village have been eliminated. Day Two Lynch: > [@](#): > > Blaster Master, you are a **Propagandist**. Each night beginning Night One, you will falsely disclose your own alignment to your target. You are a **Wolf**. You win by achieving parity with the village and eliminating any other threats. Night Two Actions > [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > Dancecat, you are a **Town Crier**. Each night beginning Night One, you will disclose your true alignment to your target. You are a **Villager**. You win when all threats to Town Village have been eliminated. > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > Inner Stickler, you are a **Beat Cop**. Each night beginning Night One, you investigate your target to learn their alignment. You also prevent your target from carrying out, or being the victim of, any killing night actions that night. You are a **Villager**. You win when all threats to Town Village have been eliminated. > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > peekercpa, you are a **Lightning Rod**. Each night beginning Night One, you select a target. All night actions aimed at your target will be redirected to you. You are a **Villager**. You win when all threats to Town Village have been eliminated. > > Brewha has been poisoned! Brewha is poisoned and may die tonight if not targeted by a an anti-dote/healer. Silman was Silman Dancecat was hifi Episkey is Jimhalpert Donkx4 is donkdonkdonkdonk pwnsall is pwnsall J.D. is J.D. Sangaman is Sangaman I think that’s all the 2p2ers, I could have missed someone. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3126 "2011-08-25T15:43:19Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > No, that’s not it. You sure about that? > [@](#): > > “There is too much. Let me sum up.” > > - Weak voting on D1 > - Voting with weak reasons early and often > - Jumping onto the Krayz bandwagon, after I had previously unvoted em > > See my reply to ATPG, where I reference Blaster Master’s case against me Yesterday. Please keep in mind (i) that e was Scum, and (ii) it’s now Day 3 when I have stuff to work with. Hmmm, interesting. Do you remember who was on that case other than BlaM? ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3127 "2011-08-25T15:52:04Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > You sure about that? I’m fairly good at knowing what my intuition isn’t about. So yes, I’m sure that my sense isn’t OMGUS. > [@](#): > > Hmmm, interesting. Do you remember who was on that case other than BlaM? Drain Bead for one. Scathach went me-too in 1498. Peeker had me at his #2 in 1456. Shortly after that I went away for a while, and when I came back I was no longer the lynch leader. I tentatively soft-cleared Drain Bead a while back. peeker is KIA. Scathach is on your leaning-Scum list. special ed is on your leaning-scum list too. I question whether a power booster would be a a Town or Scum role, and I question whether the Scum might have normally-Town roles. So without other info, I’m curious why you’re leaning Scum on ed. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3128 "2011-08-25T15:56:08Z")
ABWOP: Your question to me was “That’s interesting. Is it because I keep asking people to tell me why you were suspicious and no one has yet?” I see nothing wrong in asking about past cases. So I’m sure my leaning-Scum sense isn’t part of that. As for why they haven’t replied – well, two of them are Dead, and I’ve given you the posts for the major case on me Yesterday. Please ask yourself this (riddle me this, NAFman): If I am Town, why would I help you go through the case Yesterday against me? I will note that Blaster’s concerns were valid. I claim eir conclusion, trying to lynch me, was incorrect. Blaster kept talking emself right into a noose. Feel free to keep talking, maybe we’ll find another Wolf, regardless of your alignment. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3129 "2011-08-25T16:01:59Z")
Interesting stats. The top two posters through 3127 are peeker (318) and ATPG (261). NAF is a comparatively distant third at 198. All the posters with fewer than 20 are, IIRC, subbed out, subs, or Sir Not Appearing In This Game. Septimus is the lagger at 20, less than 10% of PizzaGuy’s post count. Low post counts need not indicate Scum. High post counts strongly indicate talkiness but not alignment; I would expect peeker and PizzaGuy to post a lot regardless of their alignment. (Hence me curious about a 3-handed game, with peeker and PizzaGuy being two of them.) ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3130 "2011-08-25T16:09:10Z")
Thinking about the ‘Night whispers’ so far… Night 1 Blaster Master whispered Giraffe that he is Town (false) Dancecat whispered Idle Thoughts that he is Town (true) Unknown whispered Scuba\_Ben that Silver Jan is Town Unknown whispered Silver Jan that gnarlycharlie is Scum Unknown whispered Weedy that gnarlycharlie is town, and a Mason Night 2 Blaster Master whispered nobody (he was already dead) Dancecat whispered ??? Unknown whispered Giraffe that pwnsall is Town Unknown whispered Askthepizzaguy that Episkey is Scum Unknown whispered Askthepizzaguy that NAF1138 is Scum **Silver Jan** and \*\*Weedy \*\*received conflicting information on Night 1. Unless one of them actually received no message and is just making things up, one of those messages must be false. I will assume for now that niether is making up their story. **Dancecat** should have whispered someone on Night 2 with her alignment, but it’s possible that she was blocked, or that her death took precedence so her action didn’t go through. If anyone _did_ receive a whisper regarding Dancecat, they need to speak up _ **now** _. So we have three ‘Unknown’ whispers from Night 1, and three from Night 2. We can assume that at least one of these is false and at least one is true (see Silver Jan/Weedy). Unfortunately, we can’t draw any conclusions from that, as the various permutations run all the way from “ **pwnsall** , **Episkey** , \*\*NAF1138 \*\*are all Town”, to “pwnsall, Episkey, NAF1138 are all Scum” It’s interesting that \*\*Giraffe \*\*was the recipient of whispers on both Nights. Why is that? Night 1’s whisper was from **Blaster Master** ; that much seems confirmed. And by Night 2, we knew that Giraffe had been fed false information. Would this make it more or less likely that someone would choose to target Giraffe with an investigation result on Night 2? Personally, I’d say “less”, but that’s just how I would have played it if it were my decision; I have no facts to back up that opinion. Of course, it’s quite possible that nobody chose to send their investigation results to Giraffe; it sould have been a random pick, or there could have been a third party involved. Also interesting is why two different people sent whispers to \*\*Askthepizzaguy \*\*on Night 2. Considering he had claimed “possibly Poisoner” on Day 2, I find it hard to beleive that two different people found him to be a ‘trusted recipient’ for their information. But again, we have no particular reason to beleive that our investigators are themselves choosing the recipients of their results. My gut instinct is that one of Pizza’s results is true, and the other is false. But that’s just instinct. I was hoping this exercise here would either confirm or refute the premise, but it seems to have done neither. In any case, I think the odds are that among pwnsall, Epsikey, and NAF1138, there is at least one Scum. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3131 "2011-08-25T16:14:07Z")
Nice summary table, Plankton. It seems to me that whoever got a message from Dancecat about eir alignment can safely disclose that message, as it’s no longer useful. And if nobody discloses such a message, either Dancecat was blocked, e whispered to another of the Night killed, or both. I doubt any confirmation of receipt of Dancecat’s message would be helpful, however. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3132 "2011-08-25T16:15:45Z")
ABWOP: I agree with your gut instinct and conclusion. I add that the odds seem against all three of them being Scum. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3133 "2011-08-25T16:22:20Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > Nice summary table, Plankton. > > It seems to me that whoever got a message from Dancecat about eir alignment can safely disclose that message, as it’s no longer useful. And if nobody discloses such a message, either Dancecat was blocked, e whispered to another of the Night killed, or both. > > I doubt any confirmation of receipt of Dancecat’s message would be helpful, however. Agreed. Still, if it was received, I think it’s in the Town’s best interest to share that information. If someone \*did \*get such a whisper, then we know Dancecat wasn’t blocked, which could prove useful somewhere down the line. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3134 "2011-08-25T16:23:27Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > special ed is on your leaning-scum list too. I question whether a power booster would be a a Town or Scum role, and I question whether the Scum might have normally-Town roles. So without other info, I’m curious why you’re leaning Scum on ed. I honestly can’t say. It is one of those things that doesn’t make sense if I go back and try to build a case, but I don’t typically find Ed to be scummy and right now every time he posts it strikes me wrong. It’s why he hasn’t gotten a vote. If I can’t build a case I am not going to make a vote, but I figure I should mention it. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3135 "2011-08-25T16:24:56Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > Please ask yourself this (riddle me this, NAFman): If I am Town, why would I help you go through the case Yesterday against me? Don’t assume that just because I am looking at you I am trying to nail you as scum. Bad assumption right there. > [@](#): > > Blaster kept talking emself right into a noose. Feel free to keep talking, maybe we’ll find another Wolf, regardless of your alignment. That is now, and always, my plan. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3136 "2011-08-25T16:27:39Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > In any case, I think the odds are that among pwnsall, Epsikey, and NAF1138, there is at least one Scum. This sounds right to me. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3137 "2011-08-25T16:27:54Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > \ > Also interesting is why two different people sent whispers to \*\*Askthepizzaguy \*\*on Night 2. Considering he had claimed “possibly Poisoner” on Day 2, I find it hard to beleive that two different people found him to be a ‘trusted recipient’ for their information. But again, we have no particular reason to beleive that our investigators are themselves choosing the recipients of their results. > \ The other option is that the people (or at least some of them) sending this information have no idea that they are doing it (i.e., what their role is). ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3138 "2011-08-25T16:37:32Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Don’t assume that just because I am looking at you I am trying to nail you as scum. Bad assumption right there. Yes that was a bad assumption / defensive reaction on my part, the kind that got me drowned in Sekhmet. Given the scrutiny I took on D2 in this game, I think I’ve gotten better at handling the pressure. The defensiveness is my problem. I agree with **lilflower** , it’s possible that the whisperers don’t know it yet. There’s enough data for some people to determine that they _aren’t_ the whisperers, eg. anybody who targeted a message recipient or subject on N1 but didn’t target any of them on N2. Similarly, it seems to me that someone who _did_ target a message recipient both Night or a message subject both Nights can conclude they are probably a whisperer. It’s probably in their interest to NOT claim this. And therefore it’s probably in the Town’s interest for there to NOT be a mass claim of “I’m [del]Spartacus[/del] not a whisperer!” (There’s what, 30-ish players Alive? If all but 3 say “I’m not a whisperer!” the remaining 3 very likely ARE.) And just to check my math. As I count it, we started with 37, have had 2 lynches, have had 3 Night kills per Night, total KIA is 8. So we’re down to 29. A few more Day-Night cycles and we’ll be at a manageable number for a Mafia game. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3139 "2011-08-25T16:38:49Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > Nice summary table, Plankton. > > It seems to me that whoever got a message from Dancecat about eir alignment can safely disclose that message, as it’s no longer useful. And if nobody discloses such a message, either Dancecat was blocked, e whispered to another of the Night killed, or both. > > I doubt any confirmation of receipt of Dancecat’s message would be helpful, however. When I asked the order of actions Gad did respond. IIRC kills are last at the same time. If no one got a message from Dancecat. Then who ever targeted Her Last Night could be a roleblocker. That could be usefull to Town. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3140 "2011-08-25T16:45:08Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > A few more Day-Night cycles and we’ll be at a manageable number for a Mafia game. **MODERATOR NOTE** 😛 ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3141 "2011-08-25T16:49:22Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > When I asked the order of actions Gad did respond. IIRC kills are last at the same time. If no one got a message from Dancecat. Then who ever targeted Her Last Night could be a roleblocker. That could be usefull to Town. to add > [@Gadarene](#): > > **MODERATOR NOTE** > > There is an order for night actions. The most I will say about that order is that kills (including the wolf teamkill) happen after all other night actions, and night actions within each particular category are resolved essentially simultaneously as others within that category. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=156) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=158)