# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 158
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3142 "2011-08-25T16:49:29Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > This sounds right to me. i could pick any random 3 people and say that also i think power increase role or whatever sounds made up ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3143 "2011-08-25T16:54:07Z")
> [@pwnsall](#): > > also i think power increase role or whatever sounds made up **pwnsall** , why do you say it “sounds made up”? I said early D1 that I had an extra target for N2, which I inferred was due to a power increase role. ed has said Today that he is that power increase role. Are you saying we _both_ made something up? For that matter, the role Lightning Rod also sounds made up – but we have had one of those in this game. So I disagree with your thought and whack you with a trout. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3144 "2011-08-25T16:55:13Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > For that matter, the role Lightning Rod also sounds made up – but we have had one of those in this game. **MODERATOR NOTE** I did make it up tho. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3145 "2011-08-25T16:55:43Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > to add > > > [@Gadarene](#): > > > > **MODERATOR NOTE** > > > > There is an order for night actions. The most I will say about that order is that kills (including the wolf teamkill) happen after all other night actions, and night actions within each particular category are resolved essentially simultaneously as others within that category. So \*\*Dancecat \*\*did have an opportunity to send a whisper before being killed. Which means either Someone received a message from Dancecat, or Someone blocked Dancecat. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3146 "2011-08-25T16:58:29Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > **MODERATOR NOTE** > > 😛 > [@Gadarene](#): > > **MODERATOR NOTE** > > I did make it up tho. After this game I am so going to slap you with a trout. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3147 "2011-08-25T17:00:21Z")
> [@pwnsall](#): > > i could pick any random 3 people and say that But I didn’t pick 3 _random_ people, I picked 3 people for whom others claimed to have received alignment information. If you’d like to make a case that either \*\*Giraffe \*\*or **Askthepizzaguy** (or both) is lying and that they received no messages, then do so. And really, you can’t pick any **3** random people at this point and say “one of these 3 is Scum”, unless you think we have 12 Scum remaining in the game. ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3148 "2011-08-25T17:01:00Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > **pwnsall** , why do you say it “sounds made up”? I said early D1 that I had an extra target for N2, which I inferred was due to a power increase role. ed has said Today that he is that power increase role. Are you saying we _both_ made something up? > > For that matter, the role Lightning Rod also sounds made up – but we have had one of those in this game. > > So I disagree with your thought and whack you with a trout. hmmm, maybe not then, never heard of such a thing i thought someone claimed that if they lived longer their power would increase which is what i thought was made up ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3149 "2011-08-25T17:01:55Z")
> [@scuba\_ben](#): > > after this game i am so going to slap you with a trout. **moderator note** ☹ ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3150 "2011-08-25T17:03:42Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > But I didn’t pick 3 _random_ people, I picked 3 people for whom others claimed to have received alignment information. If you’d like to make a case that either \*\*Giraffe \*\*or **Askthepizzaguy** (or both) is lying and that they received no messages, then do so. > And really, you can’t pick any **3** random people at this point and say “one of these 3 is Scum”, unless you think we have 12 Scum remaining in the game. what do you think the odds are of the makeup being various things (1 villa 2 mafia etc) i two died villa would you want to kill the third regardless? ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3151 "2011-08-25T17:08:28Z")
> [@pwnsall](#): > > i could pick any random 3 people and say that > > also i think power increase role or whatever sounds made up I will say that I was told that I will have to target two people toNight. That was before Ed made his claim. I don’t think that makes him town, but I do think it lends credence to that part of his claim. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3152 "2011-08-25T17:09:28Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > **MODERATOR NOTE** > > I did make it up tho. And good on you for it. It’s a \*great \*idea in a large game like this. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3153 "2011-08-25T17:09:48Z")
How the hades have I made it to so many potential Scum lists? Each of those who’ve made a “case” at me I have responded to and that response has been ignored. I even baby smudged \*\* sangaman\*\* for not responding to my response when it was asked for me to do so. \*\* ATPG \*\* Maybe you are finding me Scummy because you are not reading my posts Twice you asked for the notes on \*\* Inner’s \*\* crumbs. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14178195#post14178195](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14178195#post14178195) I slogged through the posts by \*\* Blam \*\* for easier analysis [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14179003#post14179003](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14179003#post14179003) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14179065#post14179065](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14179065#post14179065) And you may have missed this as well > [@LightFoot](#): > > To make things easier in the future would the players that share their results or lack there-of be more specific. > If you received no result (ie no return PM at Dawn) > If you received a PM with no answers > If you received a PM stating “no apparent result” (it’s mentioned in the OP) > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by OP > > Night Actions: > > > > Every player must submit a target for their night action every night, including Night Zero. There was one Night Zero night action. By Night One, everyone will have a night action. Starting Night One, you will receive confirmation when we have processed your night action. Such confirmation may take the form of a PM stating “No Apparent Result.” This does not mean that your night action failed. It only means that, to the extent there was some result of your night action, that result is not apparent to you. > > I know we can’t directly quote our PM’s but since the phrase is mentioned in the OP as well it can be used (I checked) > > This may help us when we get to sorting it all out. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3154 "2011-08-25T17:10:37Z")
Gad I’m pretty happy you made peeker a lightning rod actually. Given how much he posted and how much attention he needed, it’s a fitting role. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3155 "2011-08-25T17:12:33Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > How the hades have I made it to so many potential Scum lists? What kills me is that I have no idea why I wrote you down on my probable scum list. I should be taking better notes. I don’t normally take notes at all, this might be my problem ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3156 "2011-08-25T17:13:41Z")
there is probably a miller whisperer ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3157 "2011-08-25T17:15:15Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Gad I’m pretty happy you made peeker a lightning rod actually. Given how much he posted and how much attention he needed, it’s a fitting role. I enjoyed that rand. HiFi’s, too. ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3158 "2011-08-25T17:15:20Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Giraffe- declined > Silver Jan- declined > Normal Phase-\*\* Brewha, scathach, Zeriel\*\* > Scuba\_Ben- declined > Idle Thoughts- declined > PCM- declined > Astral Rejection- declined > Scathach- delclined > NAF- declined > special ed- declined > lilflower- declined > Drain Bead- declined > pwnsall- declined > Plankton- declined > > So, nobody wants to play the name three suspects game except Normal Phase. > > Very well. Pizza is disappoint. > Results were that \*\*Episkey \*\*and \*\*NAF1138 \*\*were wolves. > > The two messages were in separate boxes leading me to believe I got the results of two whispering folks at once. > > For the record, I don’t trust these results on Episkey and NAF. But there they are. Was catching up between classes. no no no. I am not scum, and I think I know whats going on. Just to make sure 100%: Jan got a gnarly=wolf message yesterday, but gnarly said he’s a mason (and corroborated by another mason) correct? ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3159 "2011-08-25T17:16:51Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > You and **bufftabby** have felt warm glows. I am suspecting a Whore role, if we want to trust the color. As I understand it, a Whore is normally a Scum Roleblocker. Septimus and bufftabby, did either of you get any indication whether your actions succeeded/failed/were blocked on the Night you felt the warm glow? I didn’t get any other mod response N2, though I had a lack of apparent results N0 and N1. I don’t know why I would be targetted by Scum last Night, though. I am wondering if the difference in verbiage as to feeling protected or warm or whathaveyou might just be “cosmetic”, if you will. [somewhat OOG]I’m back at work after being laid off the past couple weeks, so I don’t have quite as much time as I have, but I’m assuming that it would be preferable for me to continue playing rather than subbing? I’m keeping up, but it’s not easy. [/OOG] ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3160 "2011-08-25T17:18:36Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > I’m definitely willing to lynch Episkey. Sign me up. > > **Vote Episkey.** > > For my earlier case on him plus a claim of wolf by Askthepizzaguy. It’s possible the whisper could be wrong, so I’m sorry if you flip townie. As I said yesterday regarding gnarly, I’d rather find out the old-fashioned way than worry about it day after day. Also, this pretty much insta vote is atrocious and scummy as hell. It reads as if Astral is trying to jump on a mislynch s/he can turn around and say “whoops someone said he was peeked wolf my bad!” and have no heat for it. Can someone tell me if Astral jumped all over the “peeked” wolf yesterday? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3161 "2011-08-25T17:20:49Z")
I took a quick look at sangaman’s posts and saw nothing that makes me want to try to save him. If he hadn’t said what he had about nine scum and someone had highlighted his posts first, I probably would have been OK with his lynch on that alone. I’m not going to waste time dissecting the posts of someone who’s overwhelmingly likely to be lynched regardless (unless that situation changes), but his long day two post about the Krayz wagon felt overexplained (just one example; why does anyone need to waste words explaining why a wolf’s vote was scummy?): > [@](#): > > \*\*Mahaloth \*\*then came out of nowhere and voted krayz to make him lead wagon: > > (snip) > > His only remotely legitimate reason is that krayz is “pinging” him, other than that he only provides excuses for his vote. This seems very wolfy, and of course we now know that \*\*Mahaloth \*\*died and flipped wolf. And this (aimed at Pizza), I doubt I would ever ping on save for pre-existing reasons to suspect sangaman, but it is awfully typical of scum to criticize non-scum power roles (without any actual teeth in it) when they do unexpected or non-traditional things. > [@sangaman](#): > > Why would you claim vig? I understand you’re not sure if you are, but isn’t this still giving away info to the wolves kind of unnecessarily? It seems like you’re making yourself, a potentially valuable villager, an attractive target for the wolves. Finally, being around at end of day yesterday while the Blaster/Inner thing was going on and NOT committing to either side is certainly suggestive. So it’s not slam-dunk in my mind given the P2P context that was offered, and I will be looking at additional suspects if I can work my way out of the funk I’ve been in since about 7 pm last night, but it’s good enough. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=157) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=159)