# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 168
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3342 "2011-08-26T04:38:49Z")
Weedy! while you are here, Did your result on me N1 look like the reveals in the night results thread? Or was it shorter? ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3343 "2011-08-26T04:39:39Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > Oh, but I disagree here. I think fake reasons are what we use to lynch wolves. The point is that you should say why you are voting the way you are. And I agree that Episkey listed his reasons before he voted. And generally it’s acceptable to say, I have no effing clue who to vote for, and am voting on gut. That’s OK, at least in the early days. But! If you just lynched a townie instead of a wolf, at least we can look back and say that you didn’t have much of a reason. I think it does place more pressure on wolves to come up with convincing reasons for their votes. And any time you can force the wolves to talk and explain, the more chance you have of catching them. I think this is a pretty interesting cultural clash as well, though not as much of a clash as the fakepeek/vote a wagon thing. I’ve actually been voted before on POG for voting for someone and including a reason because it “seemed like you thought you needed a reason for it”. It was like my first or second game, and from that point on I gave a reason when I had a solid one or just did the “I think hes a villager, I think hes a wolf” type of thing. I will say I agree 1000000% with your very last sentence. Get people to talk as much as possible and the wolves should become evident. I wish we had a stricter “lynch anyone not having a ton of input” over there, but it’s more difficult to do with single days. Now that I think about it, I think the single real life day game days are a major factor in our theory on the votes thing: If you have 15 hours to lynch someone, the reads are going to have to be thin in some instances, whereas if you have say 4 real life days you better have a good reason for you vote with so much information. ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3344 "2011-08-26T04:41:14Z")
This is me again saying that if your target n1 was Gnarly and your target n2 was me and you’ve been getting no results, please please please say something so we can corroborate our peek (assuming my theory is correct) ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3345 "2011-08-26T04:44:48Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > Oh, but I disagree here. I think fake reasons are what we use to lynch wolves. The point is that you should say why you are voting the way you are. And I agree that Episkey listed his reasons before he voted. And generally it’s acceptable to say, I have no effing clue who to vote for, and am voting on gut. That’s OK, at least in the early days. But! If you just lynched a townie instead of a wolf, at least we can look back and say that you didn’t have much of a reason. I think it does place more pressure on wolves to come up with convincing reasons for their votes. And any time you can force the wolves to talk and explain, the more chance you have of catching them. yeah but i think it just make villagers make up a shitty reason instead of giving no reason or saying no effing clue or whatever, which will lead to more villager suspicion plus people should vote because voting is good and it generally discourages voting agree to disagree, but i do think bad reasoning is a good way to find wolves well the reasons at least have to be reasonable (lol), not necessarily good probably derailed the thread enough, i think i may put together a villager/wolf list here ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3346 "2011-08-26T04:47:09Z")
Episkey, I really did mis-read earlier. But still can’t imagine what you think your role is. So your role should say something like your target will receive (sane/insane/paranoid) results on x, where x is what? Not really making sense to me. ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3347 "2011-08-26T04:48:42Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > Weedy! while you are here, > > Did your result on me N1 look like the reveals in the night results thread? Or was it shorter? It looked like a role PM. ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3348 "2011-08-26T04:52:26Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > Episkey, > I really did mis-read earlier. But still can’t imagine what you think your role is. So your role should say something like your target will receive (sane/insane/paranoid) results on x, where x is what? > Not really making sense to me. I think I’m an insane seer as my targets were silver and pizza. In our games (idk if you have them here) an insane seer is a seer who gets all the peeks backwards. So if I peek a villager, it’ll tell me the player is a wolf. If I peek a wolf, it’ll tell me that player is a villager. I think this is the case because making me a Paranoid seer (someone who gets back “wolf” on every single peek) would be the absolute worst village role ever and I don’t think Gad would put the worst role in the world in this game (though it’s still possible, and if thats the case I’ll just have to play as a vanilla). Luckily, Insane seers can still be useful once you figure it out. The tricky part is: I’ve targeted Silver and Pizza. They’ve both received investigation reports, but we have NO IDEA how Gnarly and Myself were chosen to be the ones to be investigated. My theory is that it’s sort of a seer tandem (similar to the mystic seers spoken of earlier), where I choose the target and someone else chooses the person getting investigated. So if I target you lets say, and whoever player X is targets villagerbobby, you would receive a message stating “villagerbobby is a wolf”. ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3349 "2011-08-26T04:55:42Z")
To continue further: I believe whoever targeted gnarly night 1 and me night 2 is “player x”, and if we work together we can give flipped peeks of unsure players to clear villagers ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3350 "2011-08-26T04:56:36Z")
> [@Weedy](#): > > It looked like a role PM. Thanks! And did you see my post earlier where I said that I was sure that the color was intentional? That there was one protector who left his targets feeling safe, and another that left them feeling a warm glow? I’m sure those helps in the color are meant to help us figure out our roles. Was there anything like that surrounding the role PM in your post? Can you find a “tell” to tell you what investigator sent you the results? ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3351 "2011-08-26T04:56:44Z")
villagers for tone or mechanics or voting or any reason askthepizzaguy donk4x episkey gnarlyecharlie/texcat (masons right?) Naf (have come around on him assuming he is who i think, lol) pwns obviously giraffe for being blasters target and outting it wolfy for any of the same reasons, no specific order sanga cracked precambrianmollusc (was sort of pushed by both above this tho i think) bufftabby (these two go together with a somewhat convoluted theory) idle thoughts wolf list seems way too long compared to villa list probably others on both, going down the player list i’m getting a bunch of people confused ill add/subtract from this later now that i have a list ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3352 "2011-08-26T04:59:18Z")
hmmm, idle claimed jan was a roleblocker, did she ever respond to this? ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3353 "2011-08-26T05:00:26Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > Thanks! And did you see my post earlier where I said that I was sure that the color was intentional? That there was one protector who left his targets feeling safe, and another that left them feeling a warm glow? I’m sure those helps in the color are meant to help us figure out our roles. Was there anything like that surrounding the role PM in your post? Can you find a “tell” to tell you what investigator sent you the results? I don’t know what to say to this. Why are we trying to figure this out in the thread? Whoever targetted you knows who they are. Especially if they targetted ed or PCM (was it PCM?) as well. ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3354 "2011-08-26T05:01:33Z")
did you out another peek today or anything weedy? ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3355 "2011-08-26T05:05:07Z")
> [@pwnsall](#): > > did you out another peek today or anything weedy? No ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3356 "2011-08-26T05:09:30Z")
> [@pwnsall](#): > > probably others on both, going down the player list i’m getting a bunch of people confused I’ve had suspicions on both scathach and sangaman, and been duh-- one of those “S” guys. The good news is that at least I’ve kept semptimus separate from them, but sempitmus has been very quiet – not a good sign. ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3357 "2011-08-26T05:13:22Z")
alright i was rereading but got to be to much trying to see how likely it is silverjan is wolf role blocker given what we know matters quite a bit for idle/jan ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3358 "2011-08-26T05:14:33Z")
> [@Weedy](#): > > I don’t know what to say to this. Why are we trying to figure this out in the thread? Whoever targetted you knows who they are. Especially if they targetted ed or PCM (was it PCM?) as well. I am sure that the color helps figure out who the doctors are. I suspect there may be similar color for the investigative roles. I just want to help the docs and cops figure out that they are, in fact, docs and cops. ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3359 "2011-08-26T05:14:49Z")
night thread, may your dreams be filled with killing wolves and banging wenches ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3360 "2011-08-26T05:26:40Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > You do realize that you cannot poison the same person more than once, right? More than once in a row, maybe. I have no rule restriction against targeting a person I’ve previously targeted as long as it wasn’t the night prior, same as everyone else I’d imagine. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3361 "2011-08-26T05:28:25Z")
> [@brewha](#): > > Is that an admission of guilt? I am an innocent townie. No, there was no admission of guilt. :rolleyes: Lie detectors, have at it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=167) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=169)